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Author Topic: UK advocacy group launches online petition about US healthcare reforms.  (Read 918 times)

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Offline Tempeboy

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From the organisation AVAAZ.............

Dear friends,

Obama's movement for change in the US is collapsing −− in large part because of lies about healthcare in the UK!

It's incredible, but Obama's health plan, and with it his entire Presidency, could be derailed because big corporations and the radical right manage to convince Americans that the NHS is a nightmare rationed service that refuses to treat patients and abandons the most needy, such as Stephen Hawking, without care.

We need a huge popular outcry to show the truth −− how proud and grateful we are in the UK to have a public healthcare system that works, despite its imperfections. Sign on to the message to America and forward this email −− if enough of us sign, we'll cause a stir in US media and help change the debate:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/reform_health_care_uk/98.php?cl_taf_sign=60f54150efdd0c7224d9692d92b2c6ac

US healthcare is run by large corporations − it's the most expensive in the world, but ranks 37th in quality, and 40 million Americans can't afford any care at all. It's an awful system for people, but corporations make enormous profits, so they're fighting to keep it. If they win and Obama fails, the Democrats could lose the Congress in elections next year. If this happens, progress on every global issue is endangered, from climate change to the war in Iraq.

We have no time to lose. Industry lobbyists are ramping up their smear campaigns right now to make sure the Obama plan is dead on arrival when Congress meets in September. Americans are hearing a constant barrage of propaganda that the NHS is a nightmare. Let's say it ain't so below:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/reform_health_care_uk/98.php?cl_taf_sign=60f54150efdd0c7224d9692d92b2c6ac

The NHS isn't perfect −− but it works far better than the US system. Let's stand up to the lies, and help save Obama's movement for change with the truth about the UK's healthcare system.

With hope,

Brett, Ricken, Benjamin, Alice, Graziela, Paula, Paul, Pascal and the whole Avaaz team.

Here's some links for more info:

Myths about the proposed health care reforms
http://www.communitycatalyst.org/projects/national_reform/alerts?id=0066

Extreme tactics of the conservative right
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/health/policy/04townhalls.html http://www.voanews.com/english/2009−08−17−voa45.cfm

Paul Krugman on health care
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/17/opinion/17krugman.html?_r=2&scp=31&sq=health&st=cse

The extent of the health care lobby
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aZdbr0YXz5jI

Health insurers stocks rise as health care plans fade
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSTRE57G4BU20090817?sp=true
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Re: UK advocacy group launches online petition about US healthcare reforms.
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 11:53:20 AM »
The NHS has it's faults without doubt.  I wouldn't swap socialised healthcare for anything though.  The healthcare I've recieved since my diagnosis has been great as far as i'm concerned.  I recieved my diagnosis on a Friday and had a doctors appointment on the Monday.  I've had the offer of counselling, psychotherapy, even dieticians and a dedicated HIV drop in clinic at my hospital.  When it comes to medication time for me the copays will be $10-15.  I think a country the size and wealth of America to have 40m people unable to afford any healthcare is scandalous.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Democrats proposal can go through congress.
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Re: UK advocacy group launches online petition about US healthcare reforms.
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 12:10:05 PM »

When it comes to medication time for me the copays will be $10-15. 


There are no co-pays for hiv meds. How cool is that?

Thanks for posting this, Tempe, I've signed and left a comment. I've also forwarded the petition on to others. The sooner we put an end to these lies, the better.

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Offline MitchMiller

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Re: UK advocacy group launches online petition about US healthcare reforms.
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 02:13:51 AM »
I wish it was reform, but when the two biggest profiteers in the health industry are planning on launching an all-out TV blitz FOR it, I really doubt the consumer will benefit. 

Those of us from the liberal side of the fence have grown very disillusioned with the whole thing.  It looks like Obama is willing to sell out the public to secure the Democratic majority in the 2010 Congressional elections.



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Re: UK advocacy group launches online petition about US healthcare reforms.
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 06:57:45 AM »


Those of us from the liberal side of the fence have grown very disillusioned with the whole thing.  It looks like Obama is willing to sell out the public to secure the Democratic majority in the 2010 Congressional elections.


Oh of course. It's ALWAYS about votes, never about the greater good. You know, the sad thing is, if the tables were turned and the US had universal health-care and the UK didn't and WE were having this debate on this side of the pond, it would be the exact same thing. The HAVES saying "tough shit" to the have-nots. I'm afraid it's human nature. And it sucks. I think probably the only reason the NHS exists today is because of the British camaraderie in the wake of WWII. Otherwise, forget it. :-\

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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