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Offline lifelover111

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indeterminate Test Result
« on: August 05, 2009, 09:45:10 AM »
I found this forum several months ago and it really helped me in getting rid of my stress.


I had a NO-RISK incident more than 3 months ago (just go to a massage parlor, no blowjob, no unprotected sex; I just had a minor scratch after this incident). Based on the information in this forum, I am pretty sure that I don't need any test.

However, today morning, my girl friend went to a clinic for health checking, and the HIV test result was "indeterminate HIV status". Right off the bat, I checked my HIV status by Determine test and got a "Negative result". I and my girl friend have never had unprotected intercourse: she is still a virgin; my penis never got into her vaginal, just the outside parts. Also, she has never had any kind of RISKY incident: no sex, no blood transfusion, no contact to blood. The only significant incident is that she bleeds because of a clipper at a beauty salon.

Now we are waiting for my girl friend's second test. They told us that it's a slow test, and the result will be given next Friday (after about ten days).

Based on the information I mentioned, can anybody give me some kind of confirmation that we will receive a negative result?

I am really really confused. My girl friend is my life, can't live without her!

(sorry for my English, not a native E. speaker)

Thank you!

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 09:57:38 AM »
Indeterminate results happen for all sorts of reasons. Given the information you have supplied about your gf, I expect her to test negative. Of course, in the meantime an indeterminate stirs up a lot of anxiety. Nothing you have reported leads me to expect other than a negative result.
Andy Velez

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 10:04:56 AM »
Thank you for your quick response, Andy!

Just some more questions:
1. If I have a risky incident and then become infected, how many days after that infection will I be able to transmit HIV to others?

2. If I ejaculate outside my girl friend's vaginal but some of the sperms get into her vaginal, will she be infected?

3. If the next HIV test result is also "indefinite" (some people do have this problem), what should we do and expect?

Thank you again!

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 10:24:16 AM »
I have 2 more questions:

4. My girl friend used a kind of antibiotic (Rodogyl antibiotic( Spiramycin- Metronidazole)) 10 days ago, and finished this 5 days ago. She also used some kind of pain-relieved aspirin yesterday. Will this affect her test result?

5. What is the percentage of false positive in my girl friend's situation.


Thank you very much again, and sorry if I caused any inconvenience just because of anxiety

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 10:31:52 AM »
life,

1 - within a day or so. BUT - you're going to read the information I post below and never have a risky incident, right? You haven't had a risk so far and if you follow the instructions below, you won't in future either.

2 - No. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once hiv finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

3 - You should follow the testing center's protocol. That might be to test with a Western Blot, or it might be to declare you hiv negative. As you've already had a negative result since your indeterminate, it's safe to say you don't have hiv. You never had a risk for hiv in the first place. For more information on the specific tests, see the Testing Lesson linked to in our Welcome Thread

4 - The ONLY drugs which MIGHT affect the antibody tests are anti-rejection drugs following organ transplant or chemotherapy for cancer. Antibiotics will not have an effect and neither will pain-killers.

5 - I don't have the exact percentages, but false positive results do happen from time to time. That's why any positive result is double checked with a Western Blot. Again, see the Testing Lesson. Things that can cause false positives are underlying autoimmune disease and pregnancy. Sometimes they happen for no apparent reason.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2009, 10:46:37 AM »
Thank you very much! I will get back when receiving the result.

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 06:49:23 AM »
Today we came to another clinic for an additional test for my girl friend. Because it was an anonymous test, we could not take home the test result sheet. But the result was HIV NEGATIVE. All I can remember was the test used "GREEN xxx /AG" as the test material.

Can I take this as a conclusive result? Will another false-negative result happen in this case?

Just to inform, the clinic claims that they used a very effective test method, and the result is reliable!

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 07:34:18 AM »
Life,

Yes, you can take this as a conclusive negative result. Your girlfriend does NOT have hiv.


Will another false-negative result happen in this case?


I think this is a typo? You meant to say false POSITIVE, right?

False negatives only happen when a person tests too early in the window period. However, in order to be in a window period, you have to have had a risk. Neither of you have had a risk for hiv infection, so she is not in a window period.

As I mentioned above, false positives can happen for a variety of reasons, and sometimes there is NO apparent reason. For example, some of the rapid tests have been known to produce false positives for no apparent reason. Again, this is why re-testing must always be done with any positive result.

Your girlfriend has been re-tested. Her test was hiv negative. Again, this is a conclusive result. She does not have hiv.

Please remember the things I told you in an earlier post about how to keep yourself hiv free and sexually healthy. Please also make sure your girlfriend reads it too. You both need to know this information for the future.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 09:04:04 AM »
Thank you, Ann. Really thanks for your ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL job!
We will keep on reading, remembering, and telling others about what you taught us.
LifeLover

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2009, 10:20:20 AM »
Life,

You're welcome. Just remember to use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will be just fine where hiv is concerned.

Have a nice life.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline lifelover111

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 08:28:23 AM »
Dear Ann,

First of all, I would like to inform you that we got my girl friend's result from the former lab, and it was "NEGATIVE". So now I'm 100% sure that she does not have HIV.

However, I encountered two incidents from that day, which made me worried a lot.


1. I got stuck with a needle-stick while I was playing football (in my country, occasionally we don't use shoes when playing football). I saw some blood in the needle, and my foot bleed a bit. :(

2. I came to a dentist for regular cleaning. At first, I didn't notice that the dentist used the tools he used with the previous client (who may have HIV). After about 15 minutes, I suddenly recognized and asked him to use a completely new set of tools. He replaced the equipments but it seemed too late. He said he was so busy recently and sometimes forgot to do what he should do. I will never use his service again.

Can I be infected from these incidents? I'm so worry :(

Thank you in advance!
Life
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 08:30:56 AM by lifelover111 »

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2009, 08:41:45 AM »
You are worrying needlessly.

No, the needlestick was not a risk. That is a not uncommon sort of accident. It's quite different from a healthcare situation or the sharing of needles for intravenous use.

As for the dental situation, HIV is not transmitted from surfaces of environmental objects. It's a fragile virus which requires the kind of receptive setting provided by unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse.

There is no need for testing over these incidents.
Andy Velez

Offline lifelover111

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2009, 10:08:51 AM »
Thank you very much, Mr. Velez. You freed my mind!

Just some more questions:

1. The dentist used a "spraying tool", which sprayed some kind of fluid into my teeth and made me bleed. If the fluid contains blood with HIV, will I be infected?

2. How long will HIV inside a needle stick become harmless after this needle stick is used to inject a HIV+ patient?

I am asking just for clarification, and I am sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Thank you again,
Life


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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2009, 10:31:15 AM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2009, 11:34:16 AM »
"Fluid" such as you are asking about would not be a vehicle for transmitting viable HIV. HIV is a fragile virus and wouldn't be surviving viably even in the very unlikely eventuality that it was present in such a setting.

A needlestick such as you are concerned about would not be one in which blood was stored within the needle such as with an intravenous user. Needles laying about of the sort you experienced would not be a source of viable HIV.

You need to give this what iffing stuff up and get on with your life.
Andy Velez

Offline lifelover111

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 09:14:10 PM »
Thank you both for your replies! It's time for me to get rid of all the worries. Cheers! :-*

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Re: indeterminate Test Result
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 08:29:03 AM »
Yes, it is. Good luck to you.
Andy Velez

 


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