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africa oral
« on: July 29, 2009, 10:39:09 AM »
hi. thanks in advance for answering my post. i have been freaking out for 5 weeks now.i am from the uk and i was working in ethiopia. i stupidly got drunk and took a girl back to my room that was in the hotel bar. she was from mozambique. i assume she was a csw because she was in the bar on her own and when i asked if i was supposed to pay for anything she replied by saying 'what do you want to do?' and then she said 'just give me taxi money in the morning.' i french kissed her for a while and then received unprotected oral sex. i also finger penetrated her and then touched my penis. we DIDN'T have sexual intercourse. in the morning i freaked out and when i got back to england booked a hiv test at a GUM clinic. my Gp told me there was a risk but the dr at the GUM clinic told me not to worry because it was such a rare occourance that he would be writing in the medical journal if i became infected. he said i should get tested for my anxiety at 6 weeks and 3 months. the things that are scaring me are the fact that my gums sometimes bleed when i brush them and that could have happened while we were kissing. we were both intoxicated and i have heard that alcohol can inhibit saliva and also that hiv is high in africa and she may have had a high viral load if she was positive. to top things off the guilt is killing me as i am getting married in 3 weeks. i have not had sex with my fiance since the incident. my test is in 6 days. how long will i have to wait for the results?  also i had cold like symptoms for 2 weeks after 10 days. runny nose tickly cough, lethargy. could this be ARS?

many thanks
« Last Edit: July 29, 2009, 10:41:37 AM by mister s »

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 11:05:39 AM »
Mister,

Nothing you did or had done to you was a risk for hiv infection, even if she had a high viral load. Kissing is not a risk. Getting a blowjob is not a risk. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the human body. For this reason, you weren't at risk when you touched your penis after fingering her.

Not one person has ever been infected through any of the activities you bring to us and you aren't going to be the first. As the doctor said, you'd be written up in a medical journal. It aint' gonna happen!

You and your fiancee should both have full sexual health care check ups before you marry and have unprotected intercourse. You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER YOUR EXPERIENCE IN AFRICA, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 11:05:58 AM »
S, your rampant fears notwithstanding, in the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a confirmed case of transmission to a guy through his getting a blowjob. It's safe to say you won't make history by becoming the first.

Nothing you have reported put you at risk for HIV. There's no need for testing about this incident nor for further concern about HIV in relation to it.

Cheers.
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Re: africa oral
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 11:12:48 AM »
thanks very much for your reply. is the alcohol inhibiting the saliva thing not true then? the only reason i worry so much is because someone asked a similar question to the dr's on medhelp and he said there is a 1 in 10,000 chance and should maybe do test 6-8 weeks after. also is the cold symptoms thing not relevent? i will not repost again after your reply, thanks for what you do here.   

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2009, 11:16:45 AM »
Mister,

Saliva isn't infectious in the first place, even when a person has a high viral load, so the alcohol thing is irrelevant. You're not going to become infected through anything you bring to us.

Neither symptoms nor the LACK of symptoms means a single thing when it comes to hiv. I also live in the UK and I can tell you for a fact there are many colds and flus going around this summer. Sometimes a cold is just a cold. If you continue to feel unwell, see your GP. It's nothing to do with hiv as you did NOT have a risk. You can test for peace of mind, but don't be surprised by your negative result.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 11:24:45 AM »
thnks alot. i know you are only spelling out the facts but you have reassured me enormously. the mind can sometimes go into overdrive. thankyou

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 04:15:32 AM »
hey just one last question if thats ok. i had glandular fever (EBV) a few years back. they did a blood test to look for antibodies i assume. when i go for my hiv test next week they wont confuse antibodies from a different illness with hiv will they? also i had about 10 different vaccinations for my new job this year. hep b, typhoid, yellow fever etc, that wont effect the test will it? thanks

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 04:25:36 AM »
No. HIV tests are HIV specific..

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 08:41:58 AM »
And no, the various vaccines you had will not affect your HIV test.
Andy Velez

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 05:04:08 AM »
hi again. i have my test results on wednesday (for reassurance). i had to go back to ethiopia again and bumped into the same girl at the hotel. i told her that i was worried and asked if she had hiv. she told me that she didnt have it and that she travels alot and can't afford to become infected because many countries require hiv test for visa entry. she told me that this included ethiopia but when i looked it up on the internet it said there were no restrictions for ethiopia. should i be more paranoid that she lied or reassured that she said she was not infected?i am getting nervous because my results are soon. many thanks
 

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 07:11:08 AM »
Mister,

It does not matter in the least whether or not she lied. It does not matter in the least if she is hiv positive. NOTHING YOU DID OR HAD DONE TO YOU WAS A RISK FOR HIV INFECTION.

Why am I shouting? Because you've already been told this. Please re-read your entire thread until it sinks in.

Don't be surprised by your negative results.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: africa oral
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 08:12:02 AM »
6 week negative result. you were right all along. sorry for the doubts and thank you for the facts.

 


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