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Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« on: July 28, 2009, 08:02:57 AM »
Hi

I wonder if anyone felt or experienced acute viral syndrome symptoms immediately after having a risky encounter?  Here is info regarding AVS http://aids.about.com/cs/glossary/g/acute.htm .

I met someone via the Internet and after web-camming and talking for 2 weeks we connected offline.   It was my first experience with another guy, all others have been with women and protected.   Before meeting up with him he answered and satisfied my worries about him being positive; said he was not + the last test he had in beginning of the year.  But, after feeling some of the listed symptoms I am very concerned and worried.

Two weeks ago we connected and did everything sexually and at that is normal that two guys would do; penetration was only thing that was protected.  Though since then I have had a dry throat, have woken up with cold sweats and an itchy bottom(though I enjoyed myself with this encounter that i went home and shaved there .... so ridiculous I know ... I am laughing at that and thinking itchy bottom is due to that ... i hope).

So, I wonder others experiences .... did anyone feel different after a sex encounter before being diagnosed?  Notice a different body chemistry or  have similar symptoms as I do ... have Acute Viral Syndrome symptoms?

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 08:20:31 AM »
rps,

As long as the anal intercourse was protected, you weren't at risk for hiv infection. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. Getting a blowjob isn't a risk for hiv infection. Giving a blowjob is only a theoretical risk and unless your oral health is absolutely terrible (think meth mouth), then you don't need to worry about that.

There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

The alleged symptoms of ARS are called flu-like, because that's exactly what they are - flu-like. Flu also has flu-like symptoms and so do hundreds of other illnesses. Whatever is causing you to feel unwell has nothing to do with hiv as you did not have a risk. If you continue to feel unwell, see a doctor. It's nothing to do with hiv.

I'd like to point out for your future reference that neither symptoms, nor the LACK of symptoms will ever tell you a single thing about your hiv status. Many people never experience ARS, but yet test positive - when they have had a risk. You have not had a risk.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 08:33:38 AM »
Thanks Ann!

I have since went back to the guy and flat out asked him again if he has herpes or hiv or anything I should worry about.  He stated again nothing he is aware of, but I am concerned as he seems very promiscuous (he ingests his partners fluid upon their release and provides stimuli to their bottoms) and at 40 he seemed skinny for his age.   

I received oral sex from him and reciprocated for only 3 seconds, out of curiosity.  He, also was a very aggressive kisser and we kissed after he performed mentioned acts.  Where his tongue was I see white spots in the back of my throat.

This was my 1st time with a man and it took four or five years from thinking about it and being active on webcam to finally go offline.  I hope this is all just paranoia, but I am only thinking about it when I feel symptoms ... cold sweats, fatigue, itchy bottom and nausea which yesterday made me feel cold in an 70 to 80 degree temp house with no air conditioner or fans.

Last Wednesday I went to the health clinic and they drew my blood.

thanks.

 

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 01:00:11 AM »
Again thank you Ann.

I am making another post here to hear your thoughts on my current issue that is extreme and has lasted for the last six days.   That is my severe anal itch problem and could this be caused from my session with this guy?  I did not mention he penetrated me with his finger a few times, as well as rimmed my bottom.

I'm not sure if this insane life stopping (i stay inside past few days and lie down a lot which gives me relief from itch..sitting down some too, walking the itchy is bothersome) itch is from me shaving a day later (july 15th) in that area or from our risky foreplay?  With this issue... when i go to use the toilet to defecate and wipe thoroughly I often to see bright red blood on the toilet paper.   When i look there I see minor cuts in my anus and the majority of me thinks its from my stupidity of shaving within that area.   Embarassing it sure is and was done because I enjoyed my encounter and thought I would visit him again .... which i never will as I've been freaking out since.

Could my encounter be the reason I am experiencing this extreme itch (though I do not have same itch around my genital area) or rather from the stupid thing I did?   Is anal itch a sign of hiv?

I am recently unemployed and without insurance ... wishing universal health care existed right now!

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 06:00:39 AM »
You never had a risk of contracting HIV.

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 07:59:33 AM »
rps,

Whatever is making your bottom itchy, I can tell you right now it isn't hiv. Hiv doesn't do that. If it continues to bother you, go see a doctor. We cannot diagnose your itch over the internet.

Nothing you did or had done to you was a risk for hiv infection.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 06:39:39 PM »
Thanks again Ann.

I see a lot of worried ppl on here who post incessantly. I'm trying to avoid that but I can understand there concerns.   I feel I might have done something that will adversely affect my life - cut off the time i have left on this earth physiologically and I'm sure many feel the same.

I have an appt Aug 28th (6 weeks) to get tested and that can not come fast enough.

Since my encounter I have experienced the following symptoms...
Fatigue, Cold sweats, indigestion, a purplish temporary mark (not a normal mark), sore/dry throat and most annoying and noticeable aching joints(fingers and arms) and burning muscles(legs).  Each symptom seems to come one after the other.  My current affliction is the aching joints and burning muscles.  Is that a symptom of HIV, AIDS and or Acute Viral Syndrome? 

Also to those gracious admins who may be positive.  Did you feel any of these symptoms before a positive diagnosis?  I have not had a fever or rash yet - thankfully and it's been 25 days since my encounter.

Thank you for your time and sharing your experience!


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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 07:09:44 PM »
What part of, "You didn't have a risk" is it that you don't understand? Your symptoms have nothing to do with HIV.

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What symptoms prompted your HIV test?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 03:16:57 PM »
Hi

I wondered what symptoms(fever, rash, etc) if any lead you to go get tested or was it just an annual check up where you found out you were positive?

thanks

rps

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Re: Acute Viral Syndrome (scared might be +)
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 04:10:42 PM »
Hi

I wondered what symptoms(fever, rash, etc) if any lead you to go get tested or was it just an annual check up where you found out you were positive?

thanks

rps

rps,

I removed your question above from the I Just Tested Poz forum and moved it into your thread here in Am I Infected, which is the ONLY thread and the ONLY forum you should be posting in.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:


With the exception of the “Am I Infected?” and “Off Topic” Forums, the AIDSmeds.com Forums are intended for people who have been diagnosed with HIV (or their loved ones/caregivers).  If you are questioning or unaware of your HIV status, please refrain from posting messages or questions in the Forums intended for HIV-positive people.


If I catch you posting outside this forum again, or using the Off Topic forum to ask questions about transmission or testing, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.

PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2009, 06:15:01 PM »
Hi

I have looked all over the Internet regarding if acute infection symptoms occur all at once or one after the other.

I have posted here before and been told I have nothing to worry about, but since my encounter on 7/14 i have experienced...
- Cold sweats
- Fatigue
- Muscle/joint pain (tingly, numb and burning type of pain in my hands, arms, legs, feet & toes; hands most pronounced)
- Dry/sore throat
- Diareaha

These symptoms have all followed one after the other and are symptoms I seldom have experienced before.

I appreciate any info regarding acute hiv symptoms and how they occur.  All at once or in succession?

thanks

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Re: Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2009, 06:41:53 PM »
Your questions will NOT be answered until you return to your Original Thread.

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Re: Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2009, 06:55:45 PM »
So Rapid you may be an active member, as well went through this before.   You seem to be very mean to those suffering from this worry.  It's you have nothing to worry about and we told you so now go away is the vibe you send.

I wish i was not feeling these symptoms and thus I would have no worry, but unfortunately I am.  The answered received here that my intercourse was protected so I have nothing to worry has not stopped these symptoms.

I have a test with my health dept on 8/28 and that's a long way at the moment.   

I started a new thread asking about the process of seroconversion.  What data do the mods here or others have gathered regarding symptoms.  Are they all at once or one by one.

THese answers would prove helpful for those dealing with the same as I.  Of course a test is the best but i have to wait they say til 8/28 for the conversion period. 

I appreciate the mods and others data/feedback regarding this post.   

thank you


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Re: Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2009, 07:33:23 PM »
Read the "Welcome Thread" like you should have before you ever posted on this forum. Then go read the warning you recieved for your NON RISK issues. Then move on.

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Re: Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2009, 08:19:32 PM »
rps,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. This is the third time you've been asked to read the Welcome Thread. Keep disregarding our posting guidelines and you'll be given a time out. Thank you for your cooperation.



If you feel unwell, go see a doctor. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv as you did NOT have a risk for hiv.

We don't discuss symptoms here. Neither symptoms nor the LACK of symptoms means a thing when it comes to diagnosing hiv.

Keep posting over this NO RISK incident and you will be timed out. This is your last warning.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Seroconversion symptoms/process?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2009, 08:35:38 PM »
I wish i could go see a regular doctor but unfortunately i was laid off from my job and lost my insurance.

Thus, I am here trying to find some solace as i wait via the next two weeks to go to health department, which is free.

I will seek out other avenues for solace.  This forum is not one of them  :(

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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2009, 06:36:57 AM »

I will seek out other avenues for solace.  This forum is not one of them  :(


rps,

No, unfortunately that is not what this forum is all about. We're here to give risk assessments (you had no risk) and testing advice (you don't need to test over the concerns you bring here). And that's it - risk assessments and testing advice.

We are NOT here to replace doctors. It's not because we're mean, it's because 1 - we're not doctors, 2 - nobody can diagnose over the internet and 3 - it would be unethical for anyone to even TRY to diagnose over the internet.

You seriously haven't had a risk. If you had, we'd tell you. You're worrying over nothing, provided you've never had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse as you seem to indicate in your first post.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2009, 06:56:13 AM »
rps,

I've discovered you've been sending PMs to positive members to ask questions about seroconversion illness. This is yet another blatant disregard of our rules here. I have therefore removed your PM privileges.

Keep posting about this NO RISK situation and you will be very quickly given a time out.

This is the very last warning you'll get here.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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