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Author Topic: Michael Jackson dead at 50?  (Read 32101 times)

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Offline ademas

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Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« on: June 25, 2009, 05:54:49 PM »
http://www.tmz.com/

being reported by TMZ.

holy crap.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 05:58:12 PM »
Yeah, a friend just showed me that but MSNBC isn't reporting it yet.
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Offline Cliff

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 06:22:07 PM »
CNN is saying he is in a coma.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 06:23:49 PM »
LA Times was saying coma, but in the last 2 minutes is now saying dead.  I suspect they're the best final source.
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Offline fearless

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 06:25:47 PM »
WOW!
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2009, 06:31:18 PM »
Wikipedia is already updated, and even the verbs have been made past tense.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2009, 06:39:41 PM »
We just got the "Breaking News" announcment..Michael Jackson passed away.

Despite all that was said of him, I thought he was a musical genius, I loved his videos, his songs and his voice, as far as I'm concerned he was one of the best.

R.I.P Michael..finally at peace.

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2009, 06:46:32 PM »
Off the Wall > Thriller

Though I'd probably say I even like the Jacksons "Triumph" album better than anything.

edit: BBC NEWS = FAIL

still reporting that MJ is alive
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 06:53:10 PM by Miss Philicia »
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Offline anniebc

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2009, 06:55:50 PM »
Thriller my all time favourite Video..the song and that dance routine will  never be beaten..EVAH!!!.. ;)

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Offline antibody

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2009, 07:09:09 PM »
it's epic! like when Elvis died.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2009, 07:12:09 PM »
I loved Off The Wall it still sounds great after all these years,,,,,,,and a lot of his other music too.

Why is it that I'm not surprised he died, the way one gets surprised when hearing about anyone under, say, 70, dying? Strange.

Wikipedia is saying On June 25, 2009, he collapsed at his home in Los Angeles. After being taken to the hospital in a coma, Jackson was reportedly pronounced dead.

TMZ says cardiac arrest but caused by what?  

Get a load of the names of his children, mostly fine except that last one and except the fact that they're all named after him:

Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

Blanket?  Prince Blanket? Oy vay

« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 07:18:03 PM by Inchlingblue »

Offline antibody

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2009, 07:19:09 PM »
"Blanket" WTF?
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 07:49:31 PM »
Well at least he didn't do what George Foreman do and name all his children George Foreman. Yes even his daughters...

But RIP Michael, Farrah, and whoever else is going to die soon.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 08:19:54 PM »
I really liked his songs "Rock With You" and "Shake Your Body."  He's definitely a legend.

R.I.P. Mr. Jackson

BTW, CNN is saying the family lawyer said he was abusing prescription meds, and the family was trying to get him help.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2009, 08:24:29 PM »
Oh, MJ's been a pill popper for a while according to rumors/reports.  You can't have that many nose jobs and not be in a lot of physical pain.  I'm sure he took other things for anxiety/stress considering what his life has been like the past 7 years or so.
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Offline GNYC09

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2009, 08:29:54 PM »
Oh my god, first Farrah then Michael...this is really going to affect my CD4 count : ((

Offline decayingsinner

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2009, 09:19:33 PM »
I always expected him to die young, say in his 60's, but this is crazy to hear him die at 50.  I never really was into any of his music.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2009, 09:35:23 PM »
Well at least he didn't do what George Foreman do and name all his children George Foreman. Yes even his daughters...

But RIP Michael, Farrah, and whoever else is going to die soon.

Michael did the same thing, all three are named Michael, even the girl. What up with that........I had forgotten that George Foreman did that, lol

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 09:38:59 PM »


TMZ says cardiac arrest but caused by what?  



Food poisoning.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2009, 10:22:44 PM »
this shit fucking sucks. michael was awesome. rip.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2009, 10:27:17 PM »
Quote
But RIP Michael, Farrah, and whoever else is going to die soon.

Ed McMahon died this week. THat makes the three.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2009, 11:12:59 PM »
I am deeply saddened by his loss. :'(
The world media made him weird regardless what anyone said. He looked feeble a week ago on EI at an interview for his upcoming London concert and I was wondering why.

RIP Michael. The world has lost a musical Genius and Humanitarian.   :'(:-\:'(
They say God keep those whom He loves, but He forgot that we love him too.  :-* :'( :-\
Blessed Be Michael. You now dance and sing for your Creator! :-*
My prayers to his family and loved ones.   :-[ :-X :-\

RIP too Farrah. God Bless both your souls. :-* :'( :-*
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2009, 11:22:58 PM »
Ed McMahon died this week. THat makes the three.

Wonder who the next three will be?   Ironically someone  mentioned Elvis, who I like to remember as the suave cool guy back in the day as opposed to the fat peanut butter and bacon eating guy when he died.  Same goes for Mikey, he was cool back in the thriller days , but then all hell broke loose!
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2009, 05:56:32 AM »
I will definitely remember him as the cool and handsome disco prince of Club 64 with a tux and kinky Afro dancing in front of a mirror ball, asking us to "relax" our minds, "lay back and groove" with his....
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2009, 07:01:08 AM »
yeah, im definitely going through a never knew what we had until it was gone moment. he was beyond weird and amazingly talented. BET did a michael marathon. wow, that man has done a shitload of extraordinary stuff and was an awesome humanitarian.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2009, 12:03:49 PM »
I grew up listening to Michael Jackson, my favorite sone was Rockin Robin.   Something that we have not mentioned is Michael Jackson's help in with Ryan White's cause. The Song gone to soon.  http://blog.danceruniverse.com/blog/story/2009/6/25/20119/7552

He drew attention to HIV/AIDS, and helped motivate many things that have happened in this disease.  It is a true loss.   He is gone to soon..

  
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2009, 03:11:17 PM »
Last night while driving down to Miami almost every station was having a marathon of MJ music. Typically, I would have changed the station at the sound of a Michael Jackson song. This time, however, I found myself singing along.

Each of his songs truly is a masterpiece. He's definitely the Mozart of our era.


yeah, im definitely going through a never knew what we had until it was gone moment...

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2009, 03:18:00 PM »
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2009, 03:25:21 PM »
I read somewhere he underwent and passed an intensive 4.5 hour physical after announcing his tour in London. I don't understand how someone who's addicted to opoids could pass such a physical. Especially at the age of 50.

Sounds like morphine is in the house.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2009, 03:28:07 PM »
By all accounts he was on fire for the last few rehearsals for the 50 London shows. My money is on some sort of stimulant combined with overexertion.

It doesn't make any difference, it is still sad and he will always be the greatest showman ever in my books.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2009, 06:31:09 PM »
I read somewhere he underwent and passed an intensive 4.5 hour physical after announcing his tour in London. I don't understand how someone who's addicted to opoids could pass such a physical. Especially at the age of 50.


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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2009, 06:37:33 PM »

Blanket?  Prince Blanket? Oy vay


Maybe Sarah Palin helped with the name?    ???
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2009, 07:33:25 PM »
yeah, they've been playing a lot of michael up here as well. damn, he made a lot of really good music.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2009, 10:01:47 PM »
I guess I am the rain on the parade. Yeah, I liked his music but I tend to agree with everything Katt Williams, the comedian, said about the man. Now everyone is running out and buying his music, no thank you. If it was Janet, I would be more upset. What gets me is Michael acted like he was ashamed of his heritage and was trying more and more to look like either Diana Ross or Elizabeth Taylor. If it was Prince, I would be devestated.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2009, 10:20:23 PM »
.. If it was Prince, I would be devestated.

I was converted way back during the Purple One's 1999 days, back when people thought HE was the weird one. I always have some Prince's music in my iPod but I don't remember the last time I uploaded any of MJ, maybe the occasional Jacksons' tracks from compilation of 70s or Motown's hits.

Well, we can expect years of MJ sighting and stories of fake death and that he's well and hiding in the Middle East to come...

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2009, 10:26:22 PM »
I don't know that his attempts to alter his appearance indicate unhappiness with his heritage.  A lot of people vary their natural appearance, by tanning light skin, lightening dark skin with makeup, straighening curly hair, curling straight hair, dyeing hair to colors not found in nature, lipstick and mascara, padding, etc.  Michael Jackson just took it a little too far.  I read in one article that they'll need an EPA permit to dispose of his body.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2009, 10:29:42 PM »

Well, we can except years of MJ sighting and stories of fake death and that he's well and hiding in the Middle East to come...

Or that Latoya is really him.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2009, 10:48:25 PM »
mj strove to break color lines. he also always surrounded himself with other folks of color and never denied his heritage. for the record, he always said he was proud of his heritage.

yes, he took things too far. it is up to him to deal with this. i still respect his not so outwardly black ass for his contributions to music and the way he made me feel. ive been kicking my leg and doing the eee hee eee for a minute now.

if their was an ounce of him ashamed to be black, it was as much society's fault as his own. we all know he did not have a normal childhood or adult life. i hope he is at peace.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2009, 11:28:45 PM »
the supposed issue with MJ skins was called Vitiligo and Loss of Skin Color a condition in which white patches develop on the skin. Any location on the body can be affected, and most people with vitiligo have white patches in many areas of the body.

Causes of Vitiligo
Melanin is the pigment that gives the skin its characteristic color. Vitiligo is caused by a loss of pigment in the skin, due to destruction of pigment-forming cells known as melanocytes. The exact cause of the destruction of the pigment-forming cells (melanocytes) in the skin is not known. One possible explanation might be that the body's immune system destroys the cells, as in other autoimmune conditions. Although vitiligo affects all races equally, it is more noticeable in dark-skinned people.

Risk Factors for Vitiligo
Vitiligo affects up to 2% of the population, and it is estimated that two to five million Americans have the condition. In most cases, vitiligo develops early in life, between the ages of ten and 30 years. Ninety-five per cent of those affected will develop the disorder before age 40. Both men and women are equally likely to develop vitiligo. Vitiligo may run in families; those with a family history of vitiligo or premature graying of the hair are at increased risk for the development of vitiligo. Other risk factors that increase one's chances of developing vitiligo include having autoimmune diseases, such as autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's thyroiditis).

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/guide/vitiligo-common-cause-loss-skin-pigment

 (remember them taking pictures of his genitals, and there was a rumor that he bleached his skin)

according to some sources he had several ailments. 

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2009, 11:45:41 PM »
mj strove to break color lines...


I will leave it to the more informed to write books and essays about that topic but IMHO the African American musicians that truly break color lines are those that achieved in their own musical style .. like Marvin Gaye with "What's Going On", a number of classic albums by Stevie Wonder in the early 70s ("Innervision" etc..) and "Sign of the Time" by Prince... I guess people will look to those and say they truly change the course of popular music/culture, in particularly the perception of black musicians..

MJ will more likely be remembered as the one that changed MTV, corporation-dictated music trends with "event albums" that were marketed with overproduced music videos and carefully timed releasing of singles to milk all their worth..

In retrospect you gotta say he did try too hard to break "color lines".. having Paul McCartney and Eddie Van Halen as musical partners.. and only when R&B, hip hop etc have taken over the mainstream he brought in folks like Teddy Riley and even his own sister in the 90s to reclaim some "blackness", but even by then no one was really taking him seriously as a leading force

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2009, 11:57:51 PM »
Nothing like a lecture on American pop culture from a man in China.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2009, 12:02:41 AM »
Nothing like a lecture on American pop culture from a man in China.

Objectivity dear... ;D
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2009, 12:29:03 AM »
objectivity truly is rare...

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2009, 03:24:53 AM »

long live the memory of mj!

  MJ scored 54 points againt the New York Knicks back in 1993.  I have a memory like an elephant......  or is that an Orca?!?!?

  Hell I don't know......   all I know is if Michael Jackson had kept it all natural (herb) we would not be bringing up the memory of MJ (Michael Jordan) in an obit post....

 
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2009, 03:56:42 PM »
  MJ scored 54 points againt the New York Knicks back in 1993.  I have a memory like an elephant......  or is that an Orca?!?!

fie on you.  orcas are predators of the sea.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2009, 05:48:13 PM »
Well, before anyone wants to burn me at the stake just remember opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one. And to me, he seem to want to change anything on him that was black to white. Yeah, he may have had the skin condition but what about his nose? Now come on, yeah I can see making it smaller because back in the day he had a hoover but his shit was damn near pointed enough to pop a balloon.

But everyone seems to feel sorry for the man when it seems like he was abusing painkillers. Now everybody running around buying up his music. Shoulda did that when he was alive to help get him out of debt. The ones I feel sorry for is his kids.
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2009, 06:37:52 PM »
I liked this Deepak Chopra interview by Olbermann.  I think he's right on the money about many of the issues that haunted MJ throughout his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pUOWaX0HA


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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2009, 10:19:40 PM »
I've always appreciated Michael Jackson's hits but his music never really spoke to me. His personal life never interested me, so he was always on the fringe of my musical radar. He was very talented though.

Michael Jackson's death has been overshadowed by the death of a coworker yesterday. Glenn was a single dad and told his 5-year-old daughter that she had 5 minutes to start getting dressed. He went into the bathroom and when he didn't come out and didn't answer she tried to open the door but it was locked. She knew enough to call 911 and when the paramedics arrived they found him dead. He probably had a heart attack or aneurysm. He was 40.

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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2009, 11:27:42 PM »
Very sorry about your co-worker/friend.. Not to hijack the thread, and beside its tragically pre-mature nature, that's definitely the way I would like to go through. Just drop with little pain.

Back to MJ.. that Deepak Chopra, was he a physician of his at some points? Spiritual adviser or just friend? If he was MJ's doctor wouldn't it be in some sort of violation of confidentiality to talk so openly about a patient's supposed addiction to painkillers?
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Re: Michael Jackson dead at 50?
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2009, 11:43:58 PM »
Michael Jackson's death has been overshadowed by the death of a coworker yesterday. Glenn was a single dad and told his 5-year-old daughter that she had 5 minutes to start getting dressed. He went into the bathroom and when he didn't come out and didn't answer she tried to open the door but it was locked. She knew enough to call 911 and when the paramedics arrived they found him dead. He probably had a heart attack or aneurysm. He was 40.

it's has been a hard week and this is about the saddest thing I've read.  My prayers for the little girl.  god bless her.

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