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Offline hellopeterone

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Risk Analysis Please
« on: June 15, 2009, 05:12:31 PM »
Hi, Hope you guys are doing good here.
Please help with my risk exposures.

In the last 2 months, i almost went on rampage and hired a couple of prostitutes.
In fact 5 or 6 prostitutes in all. Had vaginal sex with them using condom. I was careful to check the
condoms each time after sex. They were indeed intact, no leakage, no breakage.

All receieved oral from them, mostly covered. Also deep some deep kissing and rubbing our naked bodies
against each other. A lot of kisses on neck, breasts, etc.

Now that i have got my senses back, I have started to get worried now about the possibility of HIV infection.
Please help me and advise when do i need to test?

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 05:20:24 PM »
Rampage or not, Peter, you did it right. You always used condoms for intercourse. That's all you really have to do in terms of potential risk for HIV. Condoms everytime for vaginal and anal intercourse.

Nothing else you did put you at risk for HIV.

We do advise anyone who is sexually active to regularly have a full STD panel done. That means at least annually. Other STDs can be much easier to acquire than HIV.

Cheers.
 
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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 05:28:11 PM »
Hi Andy, Thank You so much for the kind assurance.

Does that mean i am home free? These are the only exposures in my life.
I am about to be married in a couple of weeks. Do i need to worry when i go in for a test, if needed (please advise), to be on the safe side?
I have started to worry a lot about these exposuers.
Though i know that condom protected sex is safe, yeh i am worrying because i had so may exposures.

Please advise.

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 06:19:59 PM »
As far as HIV is concerned I don't see any cause for worry.

As far as other STDs are concerned, if  you have been sexually active in the past it's always a good idea to have the standard tests done to make sure that you're negative on everything before getting married. But if you haven't been active -- well, the decision is up to you.
You don't want to get married and have nagging thoughts about what if...

Maybe this sudden burst of sexual activity was a form of pre-marital whatever. The important thing is that you used condoms. They protected you as far as HIV is concerned.

Cheers.

Andy Velez

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2009, 03:38:47 AM »
Thank You so much Andy. I am a lot calmer now.

Only worry i am having that i had so many exposures in a short time, and that too witth SWs. The number of exposures is making me worried.
If i used a condom each time consistently each time and the condom remained intact after sex, would i be safe, no matter the number of exposures, would i remain safe from HIV? Are my chances of catching it very low or ZERO? Do i really need to worry and test given these only exposures i had? What if something happens despite using condoms?

Thank You for your patience with me. This would be my last question

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2009, 03:45:08 AM »
Peter,

Hiv transmission risk has NOTHING to do with how much sex you have but has everything to do with HOW you do it. It's not about being promiscuous, it's about using condoms to protect yourself.

You did exactly the right thing and used condoms. Therefore, you had NO RISK of hiv infection. You're worrying about hiv needlessly.

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 12:53:51 PM »
Thank You so much Ann and Andy. That was an awesome reply.
It has indeed helped me calm down. Thank you for everything.

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 12:55:51 PM »
You're welcome. Glad the exchanges were helpful.

Andy Velez

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 11:53:14 AM »
Hi Andy, Ann, Rod,

Sorry for coming back here.

Just wanted to ask you something.Please help me with this:

Is foreplay considered a risk for HIV, assuming the sex workers i was with were positive? I have had intense foreplays with all the sex workers and the one i recently saw. You know rough sort of.

Again 2 protected sex incidents. I was very careful with the condoms.

In short, i have hooked up with my sex workers and always had protected sex.

Do i have a genuine reason to worry?

Thanks you guys and please dont gimme a timeout on this.

 

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 12:03:39 PM »
NO..

Offline hellopeterone

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 12:15:46 PM »
Thank You so much Rapid Rod for the reply at the lightening speed..

Given my sexual history in the thread, and assuming the sex workers whom i was with to be positive, please help with me with a few questions.

My HIV risk is very low/low/non-existent?  If i decide to take an HIV test, can i be fully confident of a negative test?

Well, actually, to make myself clear on my worrying part are two things:

[1] If i use a condom correctly each time from start to finish and it does not fail (even i am with a sex worker), i need not worry at all. Right? Some people claim that they got HIV even after practising safe sex !!! That makes me a bit worried.

[2] Foreplays, no matter how rough, are not a risk for HIV. Right?


I am so sorry for troubling you. But, i am sure you awesome guys understand.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2009, 12:19:44 PM by hellopeterone »

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 01:03:06 PM »
Peter,

If i decide to take an HIV test, can i be fully confident of a negative test?

Yes, as long as you've been using condoms with EVERYONE, not just sex-workers. Anybody could be hiv positive.

[1] If i use a condom correctly each time from start to finish and it does not fail (even i am with a sex worker), i need not worry at all. Right? Some people claim that they got HIV even after practising safe sex !!! That makes me a bit worried.

"Some people" claim lots of things, doesn't make it true. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

[2] Foreplays, no matter how rough, are not a risk for HIV. Right?

Foreplay, kissing, mutual masturbation, going down on a woman or getting a blowjob - none of these things are risks for hiv infection. Sexually speaking, the only true hiv risk is UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse. End of story.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER PROTECTED INTERCOURSE SPECIFICALLY, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 02:29:38 PM »
Oh yes Ann.
I have used condoms from start to finish everytime, without any exception for vaginal sex, though i have been with about 10 sex workers this year.

Isn't that number big? Haven't i put myself up at risk again and again by frequenting sex workers.
Is frequenting sex workers, this many times, considered some risk?

Thank you for your patience in me. This would make my last post.
Thank you for everything.

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2009, 03:33:53 PM »
Peter,

I already answered your latest concern in a previous post.


Hiv transmission risk has NOTHING to do with how much sex you have but has everything to do with HOW you do it. It's not about being promiscuous, it's about using condoms to protect yourself.


You seem to think that hiv is a punishment given to people who have lots of sex or lots of sex with lots of different people. That's rubbish. You could have sex twenty times a day with twenty different people and as long as you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, you will avoid hiv infection.

Hiv is just a virus, it's not a judgement or punishment and I'll thank you to stop bringing that kind of thinking to this website. That kind of thinking contributes to the stigma and discrimination those of us who are hiv positive have to deal with from ignorant people. Stop with the ignorant thinking already. You've harped on this several times now in this thread and it's getting old.

It's not WHO you do, it's not HOW MANY TIMES you do it, it's HOW you do it. Keep using condoms and you'll be just fine where hiv is concerned.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2009, 03:45:31 PM »
Hi Ann,

I was just referring to my risks and was trying to give you the details that i thought could help you to analyze my risk.

Never ever, even in my mind, did i think of or tried to convey any other thing. And i am being utmost honest when i say this.

I am extremely sorry to have offended you (i swear i did not mean it when i said that i had been to SWs many times, i was just referring to myself in all totality).

Thank You so much for being so patient with me.
-Peter

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2009, 04:53:57 PM »
As you have been told you didn't do anything risky. So you have no cause for further concern about that nor will you in the future so long as you always use condoms as Ann has directed you.

The real problem if you want to call it that are your feelings about your having gone to sex workers. We can't help you with your feelings about that. If you think it's a problem for you in some way, then go to a therapist or other professional and get it sorted out.

With regard to HIV you have no cause for concern at this time.
Andy Velez

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2009, 01:42:28 PM »
Hi Andy, Ann, Rapid Rod,

I got tested today to calm down my mind.
It was a rapid test. 10th July was the last time i had a protected sex and the latest before that was on 25th June.

I am feeling quite good now.

Can i be sure that HIV is not my problem and go ahead with my marriage scheduled 3 weeks later without any fear? Or do i need to get another test, to be sure.

Thank you so much for everthing that you have been doing here to help people like me.
Though, i may have to deal with guilt myself.

-Peter

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Re: Risk Analysis Please
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2009, 02:03:30 PM »
Haven't you read any of the damn replies? You did NOT have a risk. MOVE ON..

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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
Peter,

You do not have hiv.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2009, 02:21:30 PM »
Thank you for everything. And sorry.

 


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