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Offline concernedposter

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Going a little nuts!
« on: May 23, 2009, 12:42:16 AM »
Recently, I engaged in sexual relations with a professional sex worker. I am a virgin and still remain one, even though I did partake in several sexual practices. Bad mistake, I know. This was my first sexual experience of any kind and, with the stress I'm going through, it looks to be the last (until I find a monogamist relationship with a girlfriend/wife).

Essentially, the session consisted of her performing protected oral sex on me, as well as sucking on my scrotum and nipples. I did not, however, ask her as to whether or not she had any oral lacerations, cuts, or bleeding gums. Is it it possible that, if she was an HIV carrier, I may have contracted the disease. I have no cuts or lacerations on my own body but was wondering if the blood in her mouth might pass through the skin of my scrotum/nipple or through the condom (theoretically). Also, during the course of the session, my hand rubbed up against her genitals. Later, when I was in my car, I removed my contacts lens from my eyes. Was that a potentially risky move?

Please help me take this massive burden off of my mind! Am I just exaggerating?

All the best!
« Last Edit: May 23, 2009, 12:49:45 AM by concernedposter »

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 03:52:19 AM »
concerned,

Getting a blowjob, with or without a condom, is not a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first. It doesn't matter if the person sucking you has hiv, it doesn't matter if they have cuts or whatever in their mouth. Unless you're in the habit of repeatedly punching a person in the mouth before they blow you, there couldn't possibly be enough blood present to pose a risk to you. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and reneder it unable to infect.

Touching a woman's genitals then touching your eye is also not a risk for hiv infection, not even if you did it immediately after. Hiv is a very fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

Along with reading the Transmission Lesson linked to in our Welcome Thread, here's what you need to know in order to remain hiv negative:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER ANYTHING YOU BROUGHT TO US, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

Once you become sexually active and start having intercourse, you need to start having regular, routine sexual health check-ups . As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Offline concernedposter

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 04:10:36 AM »
Thank you so much for your quick and cordial reply, Ann. With your information, I do not feel concerned or rushed to get tested. I may do so, later down the road, to give myself complete piece of mind but understand that my activities did not put me at risk. The fact that knowing that it was a properly used latex condom and that oral sex is, in almost all cases, not a risk for HIV puts me at ease. I know the worrying and stress has changed my life, for the better, as I will be treating my future sex life with all of the care and seriousness it deserves. Regardless of whether or not I was worrying for no reason, I never want to have to feel this way again.

P.S. Just a side question, for future reference. I understand that yourself and the rest of the experts on this site seem to be in agreement that oral sex doesn't cause HIV (blood or otherwise), yet I seem to see so many ill-informed statistics trying to prove otherwise. Some even going so far as to say that past cases have been proven. Are they just misinformed or are they fear-mongering? Have past cases been proven wrong? Are they simply basing everything off of theoretically hypothesis?

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 04:55:45 AM »
concerned,

It's generally a case of being misinformed AND scare-mongering.

The only oral that might  be risky is GIVING a blowjob - and then only if you suffer from very, very poor oral health. Neither GETTING a blowjob nor going down on a woman are risks for hiv. There have been people who claimed to get it this way, but these cases never hold up to scrutiny. In every case, there have been other risk factors such as unprotected intercourse.

You're never going to be infected with hiv through getting blown, not in a million years.

Ann
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Offline concernedposter

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 08:44:05 PM »
Ann

After going over the Transmission Lesson linked to in the Welcome Thread, I found myself a little confused. As yourself and the rest of the experts on this site have previously explained, "oral sex is not an efficient route of HIV transmission". However, right after that, it says that "this does not mean that it cannot happen." Again, are they simply speaking hypothetically? You've explained that the cases that have tried to prove that oral sex was the determining factor have been debunked. However, as explained in the AIDSmeds.com Transmissions section, there is really no way of determining that it wasn't oral sex that was the contractible method, as most sexually active people engage in vaginal and anal intercourse. How has it been proven that there is absolutely no risk of HIV transmission through oral, cuts and lesions still standing? Are you hedging the law of averages and assessing the risk, when saying that "it is impossible" or is their conclusive study? I ask this, not out of concern for myself (as I used protection), but for future information. There just seems to be so much conflicting information out there, on the internet, and it's nice that a website like this is offering real advices from real experts.

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2009, 11:02:13 PM »
Okay, scratch that. I found your answer to this question in another section of the forum:

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=4649.msg57847#msg57847

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 05:07:09 AM »
Concerned,

I answered your latest question above, before you even asked the question. When talking about risks where oral is concerned, we're talking about GIVING a blowjob, NOT getting one. Getting blown is in NO WAY a risk for hiv infection. Please re-read my previous replies.

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 12:54:44 AM »
Thankfully, due to Ann's help regarding the oral sex question, I have been able to put this event mostly behind me and will not be testing. However, in keeping with my easily worried personality, another situation came to mind and I'd like to be able to put it to rest. During my specific sex act, the woman I was with began sucking and licking my nipples. However, earlier that day, I distinctly remembered scratching a small, dry acrochordon (skin tag) off of my nipple. There was no blood when I scratched it off, so I assumed that it would be considered anything but an "open cut". However, I've always remembered my doctor saying that, when picked or irritated, skin tags are more easily susceptible to infection. If there was no blood, am I safe to assume that this would not be considered a method of transmission or is this something with which I should consult a doctor? Again, I ask this question out of the fear that she may have had blood in her saliva and the thought that skin tags are quite susceptible to infection.

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 04:08:29 AM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 04:56:47 AM »
Con,

Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. You did NOT have a risk!

Keep posting about this no risk stuff and you'll be given that time out Rodney warned you about.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2009, 03:48:31 PM »
I apologize for posting again and think that I might be in store for a future test. Twenty three days after my one and only sexual exposure, I have been suffering from some on-again, off-again sporadic joint pain/muscle tightness in my elbows and knees, as well as general muscle fatigue. It's a knew joint every five minutes. This has me wondering whether or not acrochordons (skin tags) are more susceptible to HIV infection and don't heal as well as other areas do. I've never had sore joints in my life (outside of the flu) and I have to believe that this is simply too coincidental. As I wore a condom during the act, I can't believe that it could possibly be any other type of STI (except maybe herpes but that's a long-shot). Is my science out of whack or is this something that might lead me to future testing?

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2009, 03:49:28 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: Going a little nuts!
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2009, 04:29:37 PM »
Yes, your "science" is out of whack. You don't seem to be listening to anything but your fears.

Discuss your concerns with your doctor.  This is NOT an HIV situation.

You've just earned yourself a 28 day time out. And don't make the mistake of trying to get around the Time Out by creating a new account because that would get you immediately banned permanently.

Go get professional help if you need it for this problem. We can't help you with that in this setting.
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