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« on: August 08, 2006, 11:15:29 PM »
How long does HIV live outside the body. So many think air and light kill it right away??

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Re: Question
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2006, 04:42:25 AM »
Long,

I urge you to read the Welcome Thread and take note of our posting guidelines. I see you posted in the "I just tested poz" forum - and you should not be posting anywhere on this site other than this forum and maybe on occasion the Off Topic forum.

Please also read through the Lessons that are linked to in the Welcome thread.

Viruses, including hiv, are not "alive" in the normal sense - they are active or inactive. Hiv is a very fragile virus that quickly becomes damaged and inactivated when outside its preferred environment of the human body.

Changes in moisture levels, pH levels and temperature all damage the outer envelope that surrounds hiv. Hiv needs this envelope - and the plugs on the envelope's surface - to be intact and undamaged in order to infect a new host. This happens very quickly when hiv finds itself outside the human body.

Successful hiv infection normally occurs INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse and very, very rarely, inside the mouth when giving a blowjob. The mouth is a very hostile environment for hiv and there must be unusual circumstances for transmission to occur in the mouth.

So that leaves unprotected intercourse as the main route for hiv transmission to occur.

Use condoms and avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple. Check out the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use those condoms with confidence.

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Re: Question
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 08:01:40 AM »
Thanks for the good info. Should have know not to post on the POZ page,sorry.
I have read about the life cycle of the virus outside of the body. I also know viruses are indeed not living organisms.
A lot of questions though about the anal figuring and the possibility of pre-cum or ejaculate being on ones finger causing infection. Thought I would pose the scenario to the experts. I think unlikely because the semen would have been outside of the body at first.

Aha sex; all kinds of strange things can happen.

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2006, 09:05:43 AM »
long,

Using cum or precum for lube probably isn't the best idea, because of the risk for other STIs. It's not a risk for hiv.

It would be far better to use some of that water-based lube you should always keep on hand for use with condoms.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Question
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2006, 09:31:18 AM »
"JK stated-"Pre-ejaculatory fluid can contain more virus than semen, in the right circumstances." Doesn't this infer that it can also transmit the virus?"

This was extracted from Locopoco pre-cum thread. I have alot of respect for JK and his info however it has led me to the following questions.

I have read pre-cum contains less virus then semen. I have also read reports in which the Dr. were not even sure wheather it contained the virus or not. What is the lattes on it?

It was also stated by many that pre-cum used as a lub it really not a risk because of the out of body factors. I can see this in mutual masterbation but how about if pre-cum or for that matter cum got on fingers while getting fingered. Would that not be a risk even though the cum had first been ejaculated outside the body and then by some means found it self on the finger of the person who moments latter fingered the anus of his partner?

As I said I do have alot of respect for you folks

Thanks







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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2006, 10:44:23 AM »
Long,

How long is a piece of string? Just as the amount of the virus in an infected person's blood can vary from day to day, so can the amount of virus present in cum or pre-cum. It can vary from next to nothing to millions of particles per cubic ... er, ml? Sorry, I can't bring to mind the unit of measure they use.  ::)

The presence of possibly infected fluids on the hand/fingers of someone doing the fingering is not a risk for the reasons you yourself state. Hiv is a fragile virus that quickly becomes unable to infect once it is outside the body. You have to remember that even when cum containing hiv is ejaculated directly into the anus or vagina, infection is not guaranteed.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Question
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 09:02:54 AM »
How long is a piece of string?

Hmmmm, never pondered that question.  As far as pre cum I'm sure it [hiv] is in it but one would think in 2006 there wouldn't be so much guessing about it. Many say yes it is but not enough to infect and others say the opposite.

Anyway Ann, your answers are always insightful. Thank for your input.

I'm going for my 3 month test today. I always get one,don't know why except I am paranoid about the slightest event that doesn't go exactingly as I hoped it would.

Sometimes I wish this sex thing would just fade away. Have a nice day

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 09:18:31 AM »
Long,

It has been established that both the cum and pre-cum of an hiv positive individual MAY contain the virus. The guessing is how much virus is present in an individual's fluids on any given day. As I said, it can be anywhere from absent or undetectable to millions of copies being present.

As long as you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, the amount of virus present in a person's fluids is irrelevant. Condoms prevent hiv transmission when used correctly and consistently. As long as you have been using condoms for intercourse, every time, no exceptions, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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