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Offline John2038

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'Healthy' foods to skip
« on: April 16, 2009, 04:33:16 PM »
These foods look and sound good for you, but they actually aren't the best choices

Surprise Nutritionist No-Nos
Posted Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 2:21 pm PDT

Ya, ya, we know what foods nutritionists want us to avoid -- bacon, coffee, hamburgers, fried stuff... But a good number of friendly-looking foods also fall into that category. Instead of fearing all foods, I asked Today Show nutritionist and bestselling author of Joy's LIFE Diet, Joy Bauer to determine her top picks for seemingly safe foods that actually do not do a body good...

JOY BAUER'S 5 PICKS-TO-SKIP...

2% Milk
The FDA allows 2% milk to be labeled reduced-fat, but that's a relative term (whole milk is 3.25% fat). Calorically speaking, the difference between whole and 2% milk isn't all that impressive: 150 calories for a cup of whole milk vs. 120 for a cup of 2%. Skim milk, on the other hand, has the same protein and calcium content as whole and 2%, but weighs in at 80 fat-free calories per cup. Assuming you drink a cup a day, switching to skim will save you more than 14,000 calories in a year's time. That simple substitution translates to a four-pound yearly weight loss!

Whole Wheat Bagels
While it's true that whole grains, and products made from whole grains, are much healthier than their refined flour counterparts, some whole grain foods are not worth the calories. Take bagels, for instance. A big, New York-style whole wheat bagel has just as many calories (350 or more) as one made with white flour. Definitely stick with whole grains when it comes to bread products, but instead of your Sunday morning bagel and lox ritual, try a toasted whole grain English muffin (130 calories) and lox instead. You'll save at least 200 calories, and who doesn't love all those nooks and crannies?!

Chicken Caesar Salad
It's easy to see why our next trickster, Chicken Caesar salad, leads people astray. After all, aren't we constantly being told to eat more vegetables, and to choose lean sources of protein? But McDonald's Caesar Salad with Grilled Chicken contains 410 calories and 24 grams of fat, while their Quarter Pounder has the same number of calories, and even less fat. And that's nothing compared to the classic Chicken Caesar salad recipes you'll find at local restaurants and chains, which contain approximately 1,100 calories and 96 grams of fat.

The culprits, of course, are the creamy Caesar dressing and oil-soaked croutons. Nearly half the calories in McDonald's salad comes from the dressing, so if you switch to their low-fat balsamic vinaigrette, you save 150 calories, as well as 15 grams of fat. The calories in a classic Chicken Caesar almost anywhere can be nearly slashed in half if you lose the croutons and substitute a teaspoon of olive oil (two dashes) and unlimited vinegar for the dressing.  Can't live without the Caesar dressing? Request it on the side and go easy!

Granola
This cereal was invented in 1863, and then revived 100 years later in the "crunchy granola" 1960's. Originally a simple mixture of rolled oats, nuts, and honey, granola has morphed into a product its 19th century creator would hardly recognize. Bear Naked's latest "all natural" flavor contains 21 ingredients, including four types of sweeteners, chocolate, and peanut butter. It's also 140 calories per cup (that's a whopping 280 per serving!). Even low-fat granola packs a caloric punch. One serving of Health Valley's Real Oat Bran Almond Crunch clocks in at 200 calories. Consider that the average breakfast bowl holds about two cups of cereal, and you see why granola spells "trouble."

TIP: If you really like starting your day with granola, stick with cup, and mix it with a less caloric cereal, like Bran Flakes or plain Cheerios. Another option is to sprinkle one to two tablespoons on low-fat yogurt or cottage cheese.

Fruit Smoothies
Sure, all that fruit makes smoothies healthier than a milk shake, but your waist doesn't know the difference between the calories in berries, bananas, soy milk, and antioxidant "boosts," and those in ice cream, whole milk, and chocolate syrup. In fact, Jamba Juice's original size Peanut Butter Moo'd smoothie contains an astounding 840 calories. That's 160 calories more than a medium chocolate shake at Burger King!

You can still enjoy smoothies, just order smart or make your own. "Jamba Light" options contain 150-160 calories per 16-ounce serving, and the same size "All Fruit" selections are 200-220 calories. If you have a blender, try pureeing a sliced banana, one cup of strawberries, one cup of skim milk, and ice to taste. This healthy homemade concoction contains about 230 calories, and will save you lots of dough (smoothies can be pricey!).

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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 09:44:59 PM »
I followed the link to the eating out section and the foods that sound healthy but are full of fat, salt, etc.

Even when you think you are eating right, you can be wrong.

I guess eating at home is the best answer.

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« Last Edit: April 16, 2009, 09:51:48 PM by aztecan »
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 09:53:49 PM »
I just bought a bunch of bagels and I'm about to make cheeseburgers (though I use 96% lean ground beef) -- and my jeans still say "32" bitches.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 06:46:02 AM »
I just bought a bunch of bagels and I'm about to make cheeseburgers (though I use 96% lean ground beef) -- and my jeans still say "32" bitches.

Gee, if MY jeans started saying "32" to me, I'd wonder if I were hallucinating. Talking jeans? :o

I've always found the best diet to be one that includes mainly fresh foods (as opposed to highly processed) and moderation on the portion front. I don't think it's healthy to obsess over fat content and calories. It's one thing to obsess, and another to be simply conscious of what - and how much - one is eating.

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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 09:52:38 PM »
I just bought a bunch of bagels and I'm about to make cheeseburgers (though I use 96% lean ground beef) -- and my jeans still say "32" bitches.

I just splurged and had two hamburgers - well, sort of.

Rather than ground beef, I had two Sunshine Burgers ,  which are vegetarian burgers that are both gluten free and very tasty.

The splurge was buying gluten free hamburger buns. They are $6 for four buns, and for me, that's a splurge.

Oh, and Philicia dear, your jeans may say 32, but remember, you're young yet. I wore 29s until about 18 months ago. That 50th birthday does something to you. :D ::) ;)

Now, I'm a full-figured boy. :o

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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2009, 08:43:47 AM »


I've been drinking Skim Milk for a long time now. Once you get used to it ( and it doesn't take long), it isn't really bad at all.


I very seldom eat bagels.  Ususally whole wheat breads.


I don't like Caesar salad, But do have a salad daily. With Fat free or some sort of lite dressing.


I don't eat granola, but do like my cereal. Once again always reading labels.


And, I like my strawberry, banana, mango,smoothies. With just a touch of sugar in them.

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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2009, 10:51:13 AM »
I usually skip dessert.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 11:06:22 AM »
You know, it's not that difficult to make a good vinaigrette dressing from scratch.  It's MUCH better than something from a bottle frankly, and if you start experimenting with different types of vinegar the world really IS your oyster.

As far as dessert goes, I can easily skip it.  I routinely buy dark chocolate and simply eat 2 squares of it and that's it.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 07:08:52 PM »
I love desert.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 11:53:52 AM »
I have a very special relationship with pie!  ::)
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Offline Funkengruven

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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 12:50:59 PM »
Ooooooh.  But what kind of pie?  I now have a very intense craving to go out for coffee and pie.

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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 01:23:04 PM »
I'm dying to make a hair pie joke.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 01:51:45 PM »
Well I know there are many foods that seem healthy and are not so good.  Also the foods that you should avoid because of the HIV, blue cheese, mushrooms, etc.....  I have to say I am guilty for eating all of them.
I did however start eating more grilled chicken ceaser salad from a place by my house thinking it is not very healthy but healthier then if I get a greasy cheeseburger and I have to say that since I did this my cholesterol and triglycerides and gone down a huge amount.  They are actually in the normal range.  This is the first time in 4 years. LOL

I do need to eat better to lose weight so that is my weakness but I am so guilty of eating just about everything that I should not be.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 04:00:04 PM »
Eat "whole" foods and exercise. If you have decent insurance, see a nutritionist, its their job to be the experts.

I had a nutrition prof in college who told us all about the horrors of hydrogenated fats.  She said, eat butter, olive oil etc. Eat the fat on your steak for crissakes. But stay clear of all processed fat. It was 20+ years ago, way before the public could wrap its head around the idea that the food industry had sold us a pile of garbage for decades. Margarine, please! I couldn't for the life of me convince my parents to stop buying it and go back to butter, or change to tasty natural oils (the latter would not have been in their culture, and they had been brainwashed about the "diet" benefits of industrial "low cholesterol" frankenfood).

I highly recommend any HIV positive person read a few basic books on nutrition, take a class, or see a nutritionnist if possible. 

Eat your delicious hamburgers. Eat your blue cheese. Why are mushrooms bad (huh?!). Eat apples (a day keeps the doctor away) and drink wine with dinner and make yourself a cherry pie or chocolate cake and chili and meatloaf and baked potatoes and coleslaw etc etc just avoid the crap as much as possible.  But don't feel guilty if you eat a little crap, sometimes.

Like all sciences, nutrition science opens ones eyes to many things never considered. 

I've been counselled the best diet for me is similar to a diet that prevents heart disease - so actually, not too much of that delicious steak, sausage and peppers, etc etc.. Your doc is supposed to monitor your blood and body and refer you to specilists to keep things at an optimum. Every body is different and some can eat anything and stay within the norms. 
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 10:50:43 PM »
These foods look and sound good for you, but they actually aren't the best choices

Surprise Nutritionist No-Nos
Posted Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 2:21 pm PDT

Ya, ya, we know what foods nutritionists want us to avoid -- bacon, coffee, hamburgers, fried stuff... But a good number of friendly-looking foods also fall into that category. Instead of fearing all foods, I asked Today Show nutritionist and bestselling author of Joy's LIFE Diet, Joy Bauer to determine her top picks for seemingly safe foods that actually do not do a body good...

JOY BAUER'S 5 PICKS-TO-SKIP...

2% Milk
The FDA allows 2% milk to be labeled reduced-fat, but that's a relative term (whole milk is 3.25% fat). Calorically speaking, the difference between whole and 2% milk isn't all that impressive: 150 calories for a cup of whole milk vs. 120 for a cup of 2%. Skim milk, on the other hand, has the same protein and calcium content as whole and 2%, but weighs in at 80 fat-free calories per cup. Assuming you drink a cup a day, switching to skim will save you more than 14,000 calories in a year's time. That simple substitution translates to a four-pound yearly weight loss!

Whole Wheat Bagels
While it's true that whole grains, and products made from whole grains, are much healthier than their refined flour counterparts, some whole grain foods are not worth the calories. Take bagels, for instance. A big, New York-style whole wheat bagel has just as many calories (350 or more) as one made with white flour. Definitely stick with whole grains when it comes to bread products, but instead of your Sunday morning bagel and lox ritual, try a toasted whole grain English muffin (130 calories) and lox instead. You'll save at least 200 calories, and who doesn't love all those nooks and crannies?!

Chicken Caesar Salad
It's easy to see why our next trickster, Chicken Caesar salad, leads people astray. After all, aren't we constantly being told to eat more vegetables, and to choose lean sources of protein? But McDonald's Caesar Salad with Grilled Chicken contains 410 calories and 24 grams of fat, while their Quarter Pounder has the same number of calories, and even less fat. And that's nothing compared to the classic Chicken Caesar salad recipes you'll find at local restaurants and chains, which contain approximately 1,100 calories and 96 grams of fat.

The culprits, of course, are the creamy Caesar dressing and oil-soaked croutons. Nearly half the calories in McDonald's salad comes from the dressing, so if you switch to their low-fat balsamic vinaigrette, you save 150 calories, as well as 15 grams of fat. The calories in a classic Chicken Caesar almost anywhere can be nearly slashed in half if you lose the croutons and substitute a teaspoon of olive oil (two dashes) and unlimited vinegar for the dressing.  Can't live without the Caesar dressing? Request it on the side and go easy!

Granola
This cereal was invented in 1863, and then revived 100 years later in the "crunchy granola" 1960's. Originally a simple mixture of rolled oats, nuts, and honey, granola has morphed into a product its 19th century creator would hardly recognize. Bear Naked's latest "all natural" flavor contains 21 ingredients, including four types of sweeteners, chocolate, and peanut butter. It's also 140 calories per cup (that's a whopping 280 per serving!). Even low-fat granola packs a caloric punch. One serving of Health Valley's Real Oat Bran Almond Crunch clocks in at 200 calories. Consider that the average breakfast bowl holds about two cups of cereal, and you see why granola spells "trouble."

TIP: If you really like starting your day with granola, stick with cup, and mix it with a less caloric cereal, like Bran Flakes or plain Cheerios. Another option is to sprinkle one to two tablespoons on low-fat yogurt or cottage cheese.

Fruit Smoothies
Sure, all that fruit makes smoothies healthier than a milk shake, but your waist doesn't know the difference between the calories in berries, bananas, soy milk, and antioxidant "boosts," and those in ice cream, whole milk, and chocolate syrup. In fact, Jamba Juice's original size Peanut Butter Moo'd smoothie contains an astounding 840 calories. That's 160 calories more than a medium chocolate shake at Burger King!

You can still enjoy smoothies, just order smart or make your own. "Jamba Light" options contain 150-160 calories per 16-ounce serving, and the same size "All Fruit" selections are 200-220 calories. If you have a blender, try pureeing a sliced banana, one cup of strawberries, one cup of skim milk, and ice to taste. This healthy homemade concoction contains about 230 calories, and will save you lots of dough (smoothies can be pricey!).

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sounds like all the stuff I need to gain weight. I had a double 1/4 pounder with cheese at Mickey D's and it was 740 calories. I felt proud of myself that day.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2009, 06:25:03 AM »
Haa ha ..Antibody, I agree...when i eat a burger i hope it goes to my tummy and makes me chunky.
 :'( dont y'all feel sorry for me- I can eat what i like and not get fat.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2009, 10:56:38 AM »
Skim milk? I don't think I can stomach that. But I do rotate what's in my fridge - between whole milk, soy milk and a recent, tasty discovery from the organics isle: coconut milk, which has 20 less calories from fat than whole milk.
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2009, 04:41:45 PM »
Skim milk? I don't think I can stomach that. But I do rotate what's in my fridge - between whole milk, soy milk and a recent, tasty discovery from the organics isle: coconut milk, which has 20 less calories from fat than whole milk.

Coconut milk is way too rich to be an alternative to milk and soy.
Coconut milk (white), obtained from grated coconut flesh, is used for cooking, like how one would use whip cream. The translucent watery juice inside, when the coconut is cracked opened, is NOT the milk. VCO, or Virgin coconut oil, is obtained through a cold pressed procedure. That's the oil.

Other than soy, I dun think there is any real substitute for fresh milk, protein level wise. Rice milk dun even come close. :P
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Re: 'Healthy' foods to skip
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 07:45:26 PM »
Coconut milk is way too rich to be an alternative to milk and soy.
Coconut milk (white), obtained from grated coconut flesh, is used for cooking, like how one would use whip cream. The translucent watery juice inside, when the coconut is cracked opened, is NOT the milk. VCO, or Virgin coconut oil, is obtained through a cold pressed procedure. That's the oil.

Other than soy, I dun think there is any real substitute for fresh milk, protein level wise. Rice milk dun even come close. :P

Hey, Merlin -

If you look at the same place where you get soy milk, there are a couple of brands that offer a coconut milk alternative to milk, which is not as rich as the type used for cooking. There's plain and vanilla, which my favored one, and it's pretty good. I agree with you, though, in that it's not an every day thing.

I can't get into rice milk. Have you ever tired almond milk? That, to me, is just too rich in flavor.

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