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Offline chichos

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cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« on: April 11, 2009, 10:14:52 PM »
 At first I apologize my bad english
 3 weeks ago , in a night I had  protected vaginal sex with female  and she not wash her Vagina , about 1h30m after that ,   I performed unprotected cunnilingus to her ( about 10 minutes )  and continue  had protected vaginal sex with her at second. I have poor oral care , i had gums gingivitis , my gums usual bleed . Am I at rick ? ( cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex ) , Should I test HIV ? , Can I unprotect sex with my wife ?

 
 

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 02:29:45 AM »
You were never at risk from cunnilingus gingivitis or not.

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 05:05:10 AM »
 At first vaginal intercourse , Could "cervicovaginal fluid" be led to located on either side of the vaginal opening and into my mouth at cunnlingus second ? Am I Infected ? ( if she have HIV+ )
 RapidRod , Ann , Andy Velez and experts help me  . I am very scare
THANK

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 05:52:52 AM »
Chichos,

Going down on a woman is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Ann
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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 06:46:56 AM »
please ,I asked for a more :
 Going down on a woman is NOT a risk for hiv infection . is that right with any case ?

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 06:55:56 AM »
Chichos,

I just said that. NO RISK.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2009, 05:24:32 AM »
Thank you Ann
 I know Going down on a woman is NOT a risk for hiv infection , but I still very worried for my case :
 ( At first time vaginal intercourse , Could "cervicovaginal fluid" be gone with to located on either side of the vaginal opening and into my mouth when I cunnlingus on her second time ?. I have poor oral care , i had gums gingivitis , my gums usual bleed ) .
 Can you explain more for my case ?
Thank you for your time .

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 05:36:41 AM »
No you do not need to test for your no risk situation.

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 06:29:11 AM »
 Thank you RapidRod
 
 I afraid "cervicovaginal fluid" into my mouth when I cunnlingus on her second time.

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 07:10:28 AM »
Chichos,

Hiv transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.

The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv.

Hiv is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect. 

Which leads to the second obstacle. Hiv can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.

The third obstacle to transmission this way is having hiv present in the first place. The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from glands located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.

So there you have it. Once the results of the serodiscordant studies* started rolling in, what we know about hiv transmission on the cellular level was validated. The only people who were getting infected were those who had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Period. One of the three studies went on for ten years and involved hundreds of couples. That's a lot of nookie.

*There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 08:05:24 AM »
sorry , my last question
WITH MY CASE : I am  no rick , I no needs to test HIV ,  I can unprotect sex with my wife . IS IT REALLY TRUE ? (I apologize my bad english Language).
 
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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 08:16:34 AM »
Chichos,

YES! It really, really, REALLY is true!

You had no risk.

You do NOT need to test.

Go have sex with your wife. It's ok, really it is.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 08:31:47 AM »
THANK YOU VERY MUCH , ANN .

Offline chichos

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2009, 08:33:04 AM »
 I discovered , 1 month ago she several times had unprotected sex with other partners have hight rick ( drug injection site ). If she hiv+ , she have hight viral  load . I am scare again .
 Is it Different when i cunnilingus on her second time ? I still afraid "cervicovaginal fluid" into my mouth.

 hight viral  load + "cervicovaginal fluid" + poor oral care = rick ?

sorry for the back because I worried again.







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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2009, 09:01:30 AM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2009, 09:14:20 AM »
I am sorry , but I really still worried . Help me one more
 thank

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2009, 09:14:29 AM »
Chico, your only risk was for guilt. And that it seems you have a case of.

You were not at risk during this incident you are concerned about as has been carefully explained to you. Just because your mind continues to churn up scary what ifs doesn't change the science-based facts of your situation.

There's no cause for further concern about HIV. As for guilt about having strayed, you're a dawg like a lot of us here and you went straying. You can't undo that. The best thing to do is to take a breath, accept that as a part of your personal history, let it go and get on with your life.

If out of anxiety you insist on testing for peace of mind you can do that and just collect the inevitable negative result.

This is NOT an HIV situation.    
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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2009, 05:17:43 AM »
I am back again because I am not out of anxiety
I do not find precise answer for my situation ( cunnilingus at second time ).
I I have been understand Going down on a woman is NOT a risk and vaginal secretions found in the vaginal walls and the opening of the vagina are relatively uninfectious , I would not be concerned about this except the fact that I had cunnilingus after had vaginal sex.    
I think : At first time vaginal intercourse ,  "cervicovaginal fluid" be gone with to located on either side of the vaginal opening . Should I worry about this ?
 I cunnilingus at second time . Is it make Different  ?.
 Please do not Ban me , I need help for my future peace of mind

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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2009, 05:38:45 AM »
chicos,

If we thought you'd put yourself at risk, we'd tell you. YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK FOR HIV INFECTION.

Yes, we understand the details you are adding. NO RISK.

Keep posting about this NO RISK situation and you WILL be given a time out.

Please consider yourself warned for the last time!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2009, 05:55:41 AM »
Thank Ann.
 I do not add ,  that is really my situation.
 I not Trifle with my health .
Thank you

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2009, 07:27:49 AM »
Chichos,

When I talked about the details you have added, I did not mean to imply that you were lying. I do believe that is your situation. I do believe what you're telling us.

Now please believe us when we tell you that you did NOT have a risk for hiv infection. We also do not trifle with your health. We want you to be healthy and hiv negative.

Please remember to always use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently. Use condoms and you will avoid hiv infection. Yes, it really is that simple.

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2009, 07:42:41 AM »
Thank very much , Ann .

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Re: cunnilingus after had protected vaginal sex
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2009, 06:06:39 AM »
Dear , Ann !
 
  Because I'm not out off scared and anxious , I went to test hiv
  Result for 5 weeks ( 37 day ) : Negative ( institute Pasteur HCM city , VIETNAM ).
  Am I need to test again at 3 months ?
 
Thank you very much , Ann

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2009, 07:17:19 AM »
Chichos,

Why would you need to test again WHEN YOU HAD NO RISK?

Your negative result is NOT going to change.

You are conclusively hiv negative.

You do not have hiv.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

You don't have hiv. It's time you got on with your life.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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