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Offline red_Dragon888

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Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« on: March 07, 2009, 09:58:16 AM »
I have learned from people about this and I hope it can help you.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/
« Last Edit: March 07, 2009, 10:01:27 AM by red_Dragon888 »
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 10:25:33 AM »
I have learned from people about this and I hope it can help you.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/

Lifeline Assistance is part of a program that was created by the government to provide discounted or free telephone service to income-eligible consumers.

Anything our government provides is not FREE, it's called your TAX DOLLARS.

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 10:30:00 AM »
Lifeline Assistance is part of a program that was created by the government to provide discounted or free telephone service to income-eligible consumers.

Anything our government provides is not FREE, it's called your TAX DOLLARS.

Which you don't pay because you're a welfare leech just like I am.  Stop with the Limbaugh routine honey, it's exhausting to everyone here.
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 10:50:34 AM »
Which you don't pay because you're a welfare leech just like I am.  Stop with the Limbaugh routine honey, it's exhausting to everyone here.
I've only received help for 3 years so don't you call me a leach. I paid into it for 33 years.

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 11:07:25 AM »
Yeah, yeah -- I paid taxes for years myself.  And lots of them because I had a rather large salary.  I still find it odd for someone that is currently living off welfare to be completely anti-welfare state ideologically like you are.  Must be a cultural thing.  Not to mention I doubt you'll be going back to work soon.

But you're correct, none of this is free.  It's difficult to ascertain from that web site how it's completely funded, as it only says "supported" so I somehow doubt it's all "free" in the federal funded sense -- it says it only provides a discount.  It's also only currently for a handful of states so I guess individual states are kicking in.

How would this be any different from, say, Low Income Home Energy Assistance? 
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 11:23:00 AM »
Yeah, yeah -- I paid taxes for years myself.  And lots of them because I had a rather large salary.  I still find it odd for someone that is currently living off welfare to be completely anti-welfare state ideologically like you are.  Must be a cultural thing.  Not to mention I doubt you'll be going back to work soon.

But you're correct, none of this is free.  It's difficult to ascertain from that web site how it's completely funded, as it only says "supported" so I somehow doubt it's all "free" in the federal funded sense -- it says it only provides a discount.  It's also only currently for a handful of states so I guess individual states are kicking in.

How would this be any different from, say, Low Income Home Energy Assistance? 
Don't have any idea. I don't leach off it.

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 11:47:12 AM »
Meh, me either.  I'm not allowed, evidently, to leech off any more than ADAP.  Even when I'm poor I'm still too wealthy :) 
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 11:51:45 AM »
Do I get to bitch about not things not being really free, too?  I'm not, and haven't been, on any assistance and do pay taxes.  No, wait, I went to a state university, drive on roads maintained by the state, and benefit from fire and police services from the city and county.  Basically, if you live in any city of any state, you're receiving some sort of govt. benefits. 
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 12:09:38 PM »
Our new mayor....who is now facing a buget deficit....has to cut spending and guess where he wants to cut it......yup...city services...he wants to raise taxes or privatize trash or charge PER BAG...oh lord this is going to be a mess.
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 04:03:49 PM »
I don't know how things work in America and to be honest I don't really understand any of this but I read/received this from a friend, I thought it might be of interest to some of you.


http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/lllu.html
Who Pays for the Lifeline and Link-Up Programs?

"All telecommunications service providers and certain other providers of telecommunications must contribute to the federal USF based on a percentage of their interstate and international end-user telecommunications revenues. These companies include wireline phone companies, wireless phone companies, paging service companies, and certain Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) providers.

Some consumers may notice a ďUniversal ServiceĒ line item on their telephone bills. This line item appears when a company chooses to recover its USF contributions directly from its customers by billing them this charge. The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on to customers. Each company makes a business decision about whether and how to assess charges to recover its Universal Service costs. These charges usually appear as a percentage of the consumerís phone bill. Companies that choose to collect Universal Service fees from their customers cannot collect an amount that exceeds their contribution to the USF. They also cannot collect any fees from a Lifeline program participant.".

Don't know how you do it in America but here in NZ we don't shoot the messenger.. ;D

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 04:19:11 PM »
I don't know how things work in America and to be honest I don't really understand any of this but I read/received this from a friend, I thought it might be of interest to some of you.


http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/lllu.html
Who Pays for the Lifeline and Link-Up Programs?

"All telecommunications service providers and certain other providers of telecommunications must contribute to the federal USF based on a percentage of their interstate and international end-user telecommunications revenues. These companies include wireline phone companies, wireless phone companies, paging service companies, and certain Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) providers.

Some consumers may notice a ďUniversal ServiceĒ line item on their telephone bills. This line item appears when a company chooses to recover its USF contributions directly from its customers by billing them this charge. The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on to customers. Each company makes a business decision about whether and how to assess charges to recover its Universal Service costs. These charges usually appear as a percentage of the consumerís phone bill. Companies that choose to collect Universal Service fees from their customers cannot collect an amount that exceeds their contribution to the USF. They also cannot collect any fees from a Lifeline program participant.".

Don't know how you do it in America but here in NZ we don't shoot the messenger.. ;D

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Jan, the US has LifeLine but it isn't free. It is however less than the normal cost of regular phone service.

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 10:54:47 AM »
I did not want a mini war.  Guys cool down.  Besides we all pay taxes one way or the other and we help eachother so no need to name call.  I worked before and I will work again, I just need time to heal and gain some strength and if the government is willing and patient, I will become a contributor to our system once more.  It helps no-one to bash or blast.
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 09:45:50 PM »
I have to reply to David NC comments. Yes. we all get the govt. benefits of roads, schools, police, fire, and so on. BUT, I pay dearly for my county, city and state roads, schools, colleges, police, fireman and so forth. HOW  my property taxes, city, county and state taxes. My income is taxed dearly. I pay dearly for all those services David NC.   I get no free cell phone or break on the 116.00 month bill I have to pay. I do have a problem with paying more taxes for others to have the convenience of a cell phone. I know why don't we all just pay more taxes so everyone can have free internet service, free cable TV, why stop there, why not pay for everyone to have a car with more taxes. 

With healthcare in the toilet, I would like to see my tax dollars go to making sure everyone has access to health insurance, Not a cell phone.

Free cell phones, now that's pork barrel spending at it's best. 
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 09:49:47 PM by newbernswiss »

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 10:05:26 PM »
I have to reply to David NC comments. Yes. we all get the govt. benefits of roads, schools, police, fire, and so on. BUT, I pay dearly for my county, city and state roads, schools, colleges, police, fireman and so forth. HOW  my property taxes, city, county and state taxes. My income is taxed dearly. I pay dearly for all those services David NC.   I get no free cell phone or break on the 116.00 month bill I have to pay. I do have a problem with paying more taxes for others to have the convenience of a cell phone. I know why don't we all just pay more taxes so everyone can have free internet service, free cable TV, why stop there, why not pay for everyone to have a car with more taxes. 

With healthcare in the toilet, I would like to see my tax dollars go to making sure everyone has access to health insurance, Not a cell phone.

Free cell phones, now that's pork barrel spending at it's best. 

Fair enough, YOU pay taxes.  But those who don't own property there get the same benefit.  Unless you own the most expensive homes (here, property taxes pay for city roads), you're paying less for the road but getting the same benefit.  Shouldn't those that pay taxes on a $2 million dollar home get special driving benefits... maybe their own lane?  ;) A renter or visitor doesn't pay anything for roads, as they don't pay property taxes in this city. 

We don't have kids (although we do pay for the public schools here with our taxes), but from what several parents who live in areas with nothing but dial-up available, their children are at a disadvantage in school.  Another parent told me that she didn't see how kids could get by in school these days without internet and all that entails - either a phone line or broadband.  If the schools create the necessity for internet access, who's supposed to provide it for those families who are barely getting by.

Mostly, though, my comments were directed to those comparing years of paying in, being on welfare, and criticizing other welfare programs. 
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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 10:14:05 PM »

From an article here about the FREE cell phones David NC.  No it's not your tax dollars paying, it's your pay check dollars paying so others can have what everyone else has.  I don't agree with FREE CELL PHONES, check it out.

Treating the phone as a utility is the brilliance of the U.S. program, thinks John Stapleton, a social services consultant: "I like the fact it's the FCC doing this, not social services. That takes away the stigma of low-income people getting something for free."

SafeLink is subsidized by the FCC's Universal Service Fund, which requires all phone companies Ė or their customers, if they pass it on to them Ė to contribute via a monthly $1.25 to $1.50 addition to their bill, like the new 25-cent 911 fee in Canada. The fund reimburses TracFone $10 of the $13.50-per-user monthly cost.


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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 10:18:10 PM »
Considering the title of this thread was internet access, I was referring to things that are almost necessary, not really to cell phones.  Besides, all they have to do is to carry around a cell phone.  It doesn't really have to have service... it's all about appearances, anyway!  J/K
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 10:26:07 PM »
David NC, If you clicked on the original posting about safelink wireless, it's about wireless cell phones not internet service...yes, appearances...

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Re: Free wireless in the United States if you quailfy
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2009, 10:54:29 PM »
David NC, If you clicked on the original posting about safelink wireless, it's about wireless cell phones not internet service...yes, appearances...

You are correct.  Then the discussion morphed into a discussion of welfare, energy assistance; most of my comments were directed to those posts.  I somehow got confused thinking that wireless was wireless internet (and no, I didn't read the link!)  Besides, who calls a cell phone 'wireless' anyway?  If I ask somebody if they have wireless, I guarantee they'll think of wi-fi or an aircard, NOT a cell phone!   ;)  Again, I'd agree with your opinion about the subsidized cell phones except in very specific cases... maybe.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2009, 10:57:25 PM »
David NC, enjoyed the debate, I'm orginally a TarHeel, been there done that ;D ;D, opps got to go, my friend is calling me with his free cell phone...<<<<<<<<<<<HUGS>>>>>>>>>>>
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2009, 11:14:56 PM »
Fair enough, YOU pay taxes.  But those who don't own property there get the same benefit.  Unless you own the most expensive homes (here, property taxes pay for city roads), you're paying less for the road but getting the same benefit.  Shouldn't those that pay taxes on a $2 million dollar home get special driving benefits... maybe their own lane?  ;) A renter or visitor doesn't pay anything for roads, as they don't pay property taxes in this city. 


A renter pays rent and many visitors pay for food/lodging/car rental. 

Just because someone doesn't own a home doesn't mean that they don't contribute in a very real way ($$$) to the services provided by property taxes.

It's not as if the landlords and business owners are pulling these expenses out of their arses.  In fact, they're pulling them out of mine (and other renters just like me).

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2009, 11:16:11 PM »
Is SSDI welfare?

I was under the impression that it was disability insurance.

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2009, 11:26:25 PM »
A renter pays rent and many visitors pay for food/lodging/car rental. 

Just because someone doesn't own a home doesn't mean that they don't contribute in a very real way ($$$) to the services provided by property taxes.

It's not as if the landlords and business owners are pulling these expenses out of their arses.  In fact, they're pulling them out of mine (and other renters just like me).

Right, the landlord is paying the taxes.  Hell, I could say my employer is paying my taxes, as my employer is my source of income with which I pay taxes.  It's not as if I'm pulling the cash out of my ass either.  Some visitors do pay for food and lodging (note, however, I did not say tourist, which are different), but property taxes are what pay for streets (the subject of my previous post).  As to those who work in one city and live in another county (common at my place of business), they're contributing nothing towards local streets or services (when they have an accident on a local city street, for example).
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2009, 11:45:08 PM »
A landlord passes on property taxes to a renter in the form of... uh, rent.  So yeah, a renter pays for public schools even if the payment is indirect.  Landlords don't operate properties at a loss.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2009, 08:43:15 AM »
Is SSDI welfare?

I was under the impression that it was disability insurance.

You know better than that. Around here it's welfare if the other guy needs it, but paid for with my hard earned taxes if I need it.

 


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