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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2009, 02:59:22 PM »
This is a very fascinating graphic of where foreclosures are concentrated, though of course most of us have read about it.  Hits home more when you have the graphic, and then the more startling realization (from the article's end) that just eight counties constitute 25% of this.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2009, 03:17:59 PM »
This is a very fascinating graphic of where foreclosures are concentrated, though of course most of us have read about it.  Hits home more when you have the graphic, and then the more startling realization (from the article's end) that just eight counties constitute 25% of this.

link to graphic and article

That's very interesting. Based on that graphic, the foreclosure problem is only happening in a  few concentrated areas,  not throughout the entire country? Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmm.."

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2009, 04:46:39 PM »
Yeah, but keeping it in context it's the areas that have experienced explosive growth in the past decade, so it's where banks had the most mortgages and, I guess, preyed on people the most.  Ultimately none of this is surprising, except the speed with which it's happened.  People were predicting this housing bubble all throughout the last years of Greenspans tenure and as far as I can remember he did everything possible to dismiss it all.  It's why people called him "Bubbles".

I guess if we want to blame anyone it should be Greenspan.  18 years at the Federal Reserve, and the single most powerful person in the economic sphere in the world's largest economy?  Everybody loved him while they were making tons of money, but it was all illusory.  But hey, the "strict father" mentality means that when Daddy serves a juicy steak every night for dinner and the kids actually dare to eat it, we should blame the kids for their bad lab numbers.  They really should have known better!
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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2009, 05:20:21 PM »
Bush Widely Mistrusted (But No Other Leader Does Much Better)

US President George W. Bush has the second largest number of nations expressing negative views of his role in international affairs. Fifteen nations give negative ratings and two give positive ratings. Thailand is divided. On average 67 percent express low confidence.



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See also (american poll about job)



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The farewell video is obscene

ANYWAY, now Bush is gone and fortunately, he have no sibling that might be elected some day  :D
So gone for ever.
Bye Bush !!


Note

Thanks President Obama for that:

March 9 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama will reverse the U.S. government’s ban on funding stem-cell research today and pledge to “use sound, scientific practice and evidence, instead of dogma” to guide federal policy, an adviser said.

Harold Varmus, co-chair of a science advisory group to the President, said Obama will ask the White House Office of Science and Technology to create guidelines to incorporate ‘scientific integrity’ into decision-making by U.S. agencies. The action on stem cells, which can grow into any kind of tissue, may help speed research into cures for major illness.

Academic laboratories, led by Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and companies already using stem-cell technology, led by Geron Corp., of Menlo Park, California, could gain tens of millions of dollars in funding because of the decision. A “significant amount” of $10 billion given the National Institutes of Health in Obama’s stimulus plan will go to this area of research, Varmus said.

“We view what happened with stem-cell research in the last administration as one manifestation of the failure to think carefully about how government use of scientific advice occurs,” said Varmus, a Nobel prize winner who is president of the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, in a conference call with reporters yesterday. “Public policy must be guided by sound, scientific advice.”

The order involving embryonic stem cells will reverse a decision by former President George W. Bush to ban federal support for all but 21 cell colonies created before 2001.
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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2009, 05:20:35 PM »
This is a very fascinating graphic of where foreclosures are concentrated, and article[/url]

That is a good graphic. I know that in Florida, the unemployment reached 8.6% in January.  Thats 3.6 % higher than it was in 2008.  I am sure its probably higher than that now.  No jobs= foreclosures !! That is also why a lot of the forclosures is concentrated down here. We've lost a lot of business. Every where you look down here, it's "bank owned " or "foreclosure"  Very depressing...


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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2009, 05:49:35 PM »
   
ANYWAY, now Bush is gone and fortunately, he have no sibling that might be elected some day  :D
So gone for ever.
Bye Bush !!


Whaddaya mean? He has a brother, Jeb Bush, who has said he does not plan to run but who's to say he might not change his mind?

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2009, 05:55:25 PM »
Whaddaya mean? He has a brother, Jeb Bush, who has said he does not plan to run but who's to say he might not change his mind?


It will probably be Jebs son, that will get into politics.  Jeb was considering the senate seat that Mel Martinez will be vacating, but decided against it. I am hoping that Pam Iorio ( Mayor of Tampa,) will run for that seat.

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Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 8/25/14,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2009, 06:12:26 PM »


By the way here's the story on Jeb Bush's Son : (Sorry for the hijack)

http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/07/jeb-bushs-son-m.html

Love the comments



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Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 8/25/14,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2009, 06:36:11 PM »

It will probably be Jebs son, that will get into politics.  Jeb was considering the senate seat that Mel Martinez will be vacating, but decided against it. I am hoping that Pam Iorio ( Mayor of Tampa,) will run for that seat.

Ray

I forgot about him@! That kid is kinda cute but awful, potentially worse than his Tio Jorge. I just mentioned Jeb because John was saying something about thank God Bush has no siblings. Plus, it wouldn't be unheard of that Jeb decides to run, especially if that Barbara makes him promise on her deathbed to run (I wouldn't put it past her) lol....it's really her fault that George ran to begin with, y'know, I remember reading something about  her saying to him that he was destined to be President yada yada yada....she's related in some way to Franklin Pierce, who's up there with her son George on the list of "Worst Presidents" oy vay...maybe this thread should have been titled, "Is Barbara Bush Responsible For the World Economic Crisis?"

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2009, 06:59:21 PM »
Jeb doesn't look stupid.
If I was GWB, I will have order a DNA test.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2009, 07:08:07 PM »
Jeb doesn't look stupid.
If I was GWB, I will have order a DNA test.

I think it's worth noting that initially George W. did not seem that bad, when he was first running. Not that I supported him, even then, but he had done a good job as Governor of Texas and he was making all sorts of campaign promises  (about health care, etc) that made him seem like one of the few decent Republicans, promises that he did not keep.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2009, 02:00:22 PM »
Uhh Citigroup Inc. (NYSE:C)

1.42    +0.37   35.24%    

I love you Bush(it) !

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2009, 01:24:36 AM »
I think it's worth noting that initially George W. did not seem that bad, when he was first running. Not that I supported him, even then, but he had done a good job as Governor of Texas and he was making all sorts of campaign promises  (about health care, etc) that made him seem like one of the few decent Republicans, promises that he did not keep.

WOW! I was thinking almost the same thoughts on Obama recently. Excepting that he's a Democrat who is methodically breaking his promises now that he's in Oval Office.
Polictics as usual and shame on me for hoping it would be different.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2009, 04:39:11 AM »
WOW! I was thinking almost the same thoughts on Obama recently. Excepting that he's a Democrat who is methodically breaking his promises now that he's in Oval Office.
Polictics as usual and shame on me for hoping it would be different.

Mike

Yes Mike, shame on you.  ;)

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2009, 08:27:39 AM »
No, shame on you for thinking ANYBODY could get us out of the hole that W put us in in less than 60 days.  Come on, give the guy a break and be realistic.  I consider campaign promises to be promises to try and accomplish certain goals.  There are any number of obstacles that can keep a campaign promise from occurring.  To assume that one is 'breaking promises' because, quite possibly, they can't be kept in the time we want is not realistic.  Can you think of any promises that O has kept so far?  I can. 


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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2009, 09:14:07 AM »
No, shame on you for thinking ANYBODY could get us out of the hole that W put us in in less than 60 days.  Come on, give the guy a break and be realistic.  I consider campaign promises to be promises to try and accomplish certain goals.  There are any number of obstacles that can keep a campaign promise from occurring.  To assume that one is 'breaking promises' because, quite possibly, they can't be kept in the time we want is not realistic.  Can you think of any promises that O has kept so far?  I can. 


(edited to correct typos... it's still early, time change and all)

The only person that is not being realistic is OBAMA. If you can't keep your campaign promises don't use them to deceive the American people just to get elected. Now for his transparency promises. That is one of his biggest jokes that he made in his campain.

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« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2009, 09:54:15 AM »
This is the erudite discussion you always get when relying on the scroll at Fox News for your misinformation.

So let's see. For the first time since we went to war Obama included the costs of two wars in the budget. Costly but transparent. Bush hid the costs. Obama has listed how the stimulus will be spent on the official government website. Transparent. Repealed the Bush ban on stemcell research. Campaign promise delivered. Withdrawing our troops in Iraq as promised. Closing Guantanamo as promised. Tax cut for 95% of Americans as promised.

A small lesson in government. We have three coequal branches of government which have a say in any President's agenda.

That said, I wish folks would supply the list of broken promises and lack of transparency instead of using tried and true over simplification and gross generalisations and falsehoods.

I'm sure our conservative friends around here on social security will refuse to accept the stimulus check they're about to receive from the Obama. It's scrolling across the bottom of Fox News right now that it will bounce.


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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2009, 09:56:35 AM »
The only person that is not being realistic is OBAMA. If you can't keep your campaign promises don't use them to deceive the American people just to get elected. Now for his transparency promises. That is one of his biggest jokes that he made in his campain.

Yeah, ok Rod.  Using your criteria, we'd have no politicians.  Hell, I'll bet even you have broken a promise or two.  I guess those promises were jokes, too, right?  Again, let's be realistic.  If one believes that a politician CAN and WILL be able to keep every promise, I guess that makes one either an idiot or truly naive.  Let's look for the sum of promises kept vs promises broken after 8 years and the overall 'condition' of the US if you want to compare Bush and Obama. Personally, I'd rather have a few broken promises from Obama than McCain and that loony VP running mate.
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« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2009, 12:30:55 PM »
Obama isn't going to make it to be a 2 term president at the rate he's going. He's got us in the largest debt of any president and he done it in less than 3 months. How much debt can he contintue to put on the US, in the next 45 months? A trillion here a trillion there. I think it's time to put a debt counter up for Obama. He's making a CHANGE alright.

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« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2009, 01:02:03 PM »
Airforce one costs 68,000 an hour to operate. Obama came to Ohio to praise 25 jobs created in the Columbus police force and he has the audacity to be hypocritical on the automakers for taking private jets to Washington. Brings up the old saying, “Do as I say not as I do.”

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« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2009, 01:05:55 PM »
Some have mention unkept promises from Obama (which is surprising me as he have just been elected so it sounds to me a bit early to use already such arguments), but no details have been provided on this subject (in the exception of the promises kept).

And now we are talking about change (another early subject).

About the debt, I thought the package have been approved by the congress, that is by the republican and the democrats together.

I also thought action = reaction. I mean Bush action = Obama reaction.

In others words, Bush have create the deficit, and Obama have to fill it.
Otherwise, the economy just will get worst, meaning more job loss among others things, and at the end, a bigger hole.

I am not an expert at all on the american politics, I am just trying to understand what I am understanding from abroad.

And my understanding is that Bush have upset the world and have spend money like people spend it at the casino.

In the 90's I went to the US for a couple of months. It was wonderfull, really.
For most of my friends and me, going to the US was a must do after getting our degree.
As European, we were very satisfied with our countries I guess, but we were just willing to visit the USA. Because of the movies, the people, the wonderfull country side and so.
I remember willing to visit Vegas, the Colorado, the highway 66, Yellow Stone, and so and so.

Nowadays, I think such dreams have disappear from the head of the new generation.
The country is still absolutely beautiful, but the beauty is not all.
We are maybe just sulking the US, but it has an impact: we are having others dreams than just visiting the US. Exotics destinations have replace this one, such as Asia and sout america.

Take a look to the poll accross the world about what non american people feel about america.
I think it shows clearly what I want to say.

And why that ? Because of the Bush policies, and because of Bush himself.

Now my generation still love america in a way or another. That's why so many of us are supporting Obama. Because we want to get back the country we have love and we think that with Obama it will be much more easy now to say I love You again.

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I am a world traveler, and I can tell you that my feeling is global and not just limited to the EU.
Particularly in Asia and Africa (for the countries I have visit). Nigeria is an exception.

Shame that the USA is not part of key scientific program that Europe and others countries have launch.
For e.g. ITER Why so ? You have everything to loose doing so.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2009, 01:08:22 PM »
Obama isn't going to make it to be a 2 term president at the rate he's going. He's got us in the largest debt of any president and he done it in less than 3 months. How much debt can he contintue to put on the US, in the next 45 months? A trillion here a trillion there. I think it's time to put a debt counter up for Obama. He's making a CHANGE alright.

I remember how you expressed the same outrage when Bush squandered the budget surplus he inherited from Clinton. Handed Obama the deficit and two wars that were to be paid for with oil from Iraq. Expanded government spending and managed to drive the economy into a ditch. Yep, you were all over it. Thank God you held Bush up to your "transparency" standards.

Oh wait a minute, that wasn't you. In fact, you never mentioned debt, deficit, or dookie about Bush economic policies the entire time he was in office.

At least we can pull up this post in 2012 when Obama wins his second term.

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« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2009, 01:12:00 PM »
I remember how you expressed the same outrage when Bush squandered the budget surplus he inherited from Clinton. Handed Obama the deficit and two wars that were to be paid for with oil from Iraq. Expanded government spending and managed to drive the economy into a ditch. Yep, you were all over it. Thank God you held Bush up to your "transparency" standards.

Oh wait a minute, that wasn't you. In fact, you never mentioned debt, deficit, or dookie about Bush economic policies the entire time he was in office.

At least we can pull up this post in 2012 when Obama wins his second term.

Well, we won't have to worry about you pulling up the post in 2012.  :D

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2009, 01:16:10 PM »
Airforce one costs 68,000 an hour to operate. Obama came to Ohio to praise 25 jobs created in the Columbus police force and he has the audacity to be hypocritical on the automakers for taking private jets to Washington. Brings up the old saying, “Do as I say not as I do.”

Another example of "do as I say." I remember how you use to chide Bush taking Airforce One to fundraisers. Seems he wasn't being so transparent about that little bit of info. At least you were all over it.

You're the only person I know that would fault someone for saving the jobs of policeman (no matter how small) to try and score a ridiculously, cheap political point.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #75 on: March 12, 2009, 01:20:51 PM »
Well, we won't have to worry about you pulling up the post in 2012.  :D

My goodness girl, what are you suggesting? You usually save this kind of stuff for your colorful PM's.

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #76 on: March 12, 2009, 03:47:15 PM »
My head is spinning from all the posts...As everyone knows, Queen doesn't really know jack about politics but will give her hood version/opinion. This Queen gave politics a brief nod when Clinton was in office, life was kind of good in the hood back then. Bush Sr. came on the scene and things got a bit stressed in the hood for the first term. When he stayed for a second the hood was hit hard and folks started losing their minds..ie...crime went up and everyone took notice even those in the rich neighborhoods. Bush Jr. followed Daddy's shoes and things went to hell in a hand basket. Didn't matter what class you came from you felt it some type of way.

Now history has been made and Obama is in office. I know hope springs eternal but it's the first time I have seen the country actually feel that hope. And actually feel like after all this strain there might be something at the end of the rainbow after eight years of struggling. I am not clear on how in debt Obama may have made us thus far but the man does seem to be keeping his word. And even though I feel Bush started all this mess, some people expect it to just disappear over night. Obama has got his work cut for him and in about a year's time folks will forget that Bush even started it at all. Obama will get the blame......

Thanks for listening to my naive opinion but even the hood is taking notice..... ;)
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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #77 on: March 12, 2009, 04:25:21 PM »
WOW! I was thinking almost the same thoughts on Obama recently. Excepting that he's a Democrat who is methodically breaking his promises now that he's in Oval Office.
Polictics as usual and shame on me for hoping it would be different.

Mike

LOL...it's way to early to tell if Obama will be breaking any promises or not. If anything, he's ahead of the game  in terms of keeping promises so far. When I made the comment above about Bush seeming not so bad at first and then breaking promises I didn't mean he broke them in the first 2 or 3 months in office@!

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2009, 07:37:20 PM »
My goodness girl, what are you suggesting? You usually save this kind of stuff for your colorful PM's.

Girl? I hardly think so as you know. :D

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2009, 07:47:48 PM »
Girl? I hardly think so as you know. :D


Je suis désolé. Je devrais avoir dit Mlle Thing. :P

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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2009, 07:50:14 PM »
Play nice, lads! ;)
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Re: Is Bush responsible of the World economical crisis ?
« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2009, 09:52:11 PM »
I see that Bernie Madoff pled guilty today, to his ponzie scheme....

Does anyone else think he looks like Grandpa Munster?  ;D

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