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Offline sanitex

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urgent,'question
« on: March 02, 2009, 05:14:22 AM »
hi guys
                 

               pls can someone elucidate this issue for me 'cause,i don't know and really want to be clear on it.
so  my question gose llike this,how can i know if, perhaps'my cd4 come back to negative. would i know hence i 'm possietive?
by God healing.
27/12/07 cd4 20 vl 1million
10/4 /08 cd4 86 vl 63
1/7/08  cd4 186 vl undetectable
16/10/08 cd4 196 vl undet
23/1/09 cd4 248 vl un
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
13/12/11 cd4 410 vl undet 23%
24/2/12 cd4 545 vl undet 26%
on 22/2/12 change truvada to Recovir-EM
due to no stock on Truvada.
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
7/7/12 cd4 359 vl <40 22%
23/8/12 cd4 400 vl <40 23%,
testosterone test 7.5 ng/ml and
thyroid (TSH)1.32 ulu/ml creatinine.eGFR blck 1.5 all fasting test morning.
13/12/2012 cd4 523 24% vl <40
18/3/2013 cd4  513  23% vl <40
regimen ATRIPLA
03/8/2013 cd4 429 22% vl <40
13/11/2013 cd4 455 23% vl <40
Anti-HBs test (quantitative ) Anti-HBs positive
Titer 16.95 mlu/ml <10.00
22/3/14 cd4 396 vl <40 24%
24/7/14 change to Teevir
24/9/14 cd4 517 vl <40 22%

Offline J.R.E.

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 07:33:56 AM »


Not sure exactly what you are asking.  Once you test positive, you will always be positive .  The virus may be undetectable, by measuring standards, but you will always be positive.

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Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 8/25/14,  t-cells are at 402, Viral load <40

 Current % is at 11%

  
 62 years young.

Offline Ann

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 01:01:44 PM »
san,

When you test hiv positive, it means you've tested positive for hiv antibodies. Antibodies are produced by your body in response to an invader into your body, such as a virus or bacteria.

The viral load test looks for the actual virus in your body.

So yes, even if your viral load is undetectable, you will still test hiv positive with an antibody test.

Ann
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Offline Imnew2this

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 09:53:48 PM »
I would also add that you can never have a "negative" CD4 count (also known as T-cells or helper T-cells).  Everyone, even HIV negative people, have CD4 cells whose function is to assist the body in fighting infection.  As Ann said, you may have an absence of antibodies or "negative" for antibodies, but you definitely will have CD4's. 

The "All About HIV" tab at the top of the page is an excellent resource for education on those terms.  Knowledge is power.  Good luck on your test!

Offline sanitex

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 11:09:26 PM »



               thank  you guys for the urgent reply 'appreciate, but i still want to say this ,how about fortunately by prayer someone get healing?how could he/she know by cd4 or viral load or what test could be done to find out?pls reply cause i believe in God's healing.as bible says in Exodus 15 vs 26 ,I AM THE LOED THAT HEALS YOU,and NAHUM 1 vs 9 SAYS ,WHAT DO YOU CONSPIRE AGAINST THE LORD,HE WILL MAKE THE UTTER ENDS OF IT,AFFLICTION SHALL NOT RISE UP A SECOND TIME,so believe me with this word claiming it  we shall be heal.




27/12/07 cd4 20 vl 1million
10/4 /08 cd4 86 vl 63
1/7/08  cd4 186 vl undetectable
16/10/08 cd4 196 vl undet
23/1/09 cd4 248 vl un
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
13/12/11 cd4 410 vl undet 23%
24/2/12 cd4 545 vl undet 26%
on 22/2/12 change truvada to Recovir-EM
due to no stock on Truvada.
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
7/7/12 cd4 359 vl <40 22%
23/8/12 cd4 400 vl <40 23%,
testosterone test 7.5 ng/ml and
thyroid (TSH)1.32 ulu/ml creatinine.eGFR blck 1.5 all fasting test morning.
13/12/2012 cd4 523 24% vl <40
18/3/2013 cd4  513  23% vl <40
regimen ATRIPLA
03/8/2013 cd4 429 22% vl <40
13/11/2013 cd4 455 23% vl <40
Anti-HBs test (quantitative ) Anti-HBs positive
Titer 16.95 mlu/ml <10.00
22/3/14 cd4 396 vl <40 24%
24/7/14 change to Teevir
24/9/14 cd4 517 vl <40 22%

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 11:53:48 PM »
huh?
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline anniebc

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 12:28:24 AM »
Sanitex

No matter how much you believe in God or how much time you spend praying God is not going to cure you of HIV...only adhering to your meds will help you keep an undetectable Viral Load..so if you are on meds remember to keep taking them.

Hugs
Jan



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Offline joemutt

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 01:23:00 AM »
Maybe a trip to Lourdes will help you in your quest.

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 04:35:37 AM »
Sanitex

No matter how much you believe in God or how much time you spend praying God is not going to cure you of HIV....

Hugs
Jan

Didn't Jesus cure the lepers and awakened Lazarus from the dead ? Is there any chance of this happening again, or must we wait till hell freezes over ?

Grasshopper





Offline sanitex

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 11:57:04 PM »
Didn't Jesus cure the lepers and awakened Lazarus from the dead ? Is there any chance of this happening again, or must we wait till hell freezes over ?

  thanks Grass,i tell you those who believe shall be heal,so Annbiec,if you like carry hiv all your body without God kindness you must have been a dead person ,so have faith ok ,do not think like unbelievers,i believe oneday i'll send a testimony thread here.so thank you for misunderstanding the word of God.
27/12/07 cd4 20 vl 1million
10/4 /08 cd4 86 vl 63
1/7/08  cd4 186 vl undetectable
16/10/08 cd4 196 vl undet
23/1/09 cd4 248 vl un
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
13/12/11 cd4 410 vl undet 23%
24/2/12 cd4 545 vl undet 26%
on 22/2/12 change truvada to Recovir-EM
due to no stock on Truvada.
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
7/7/12 cd4 359 vl <40 22%
23/8/12 cd4 400 vl <40 23%,
testosterone test 7.5 ng/ml and
thyroid (TSH)1.32 ulu/ml creatinine.eGFR blck 1.5 all fasting test morning.
13/12/2012 cd4 523 24% vl <40
18/3/2013 cd4  513  23% vl <40
regimen ATRIPLA
03/8/2013 cd4 429 22% vl <40
13/11/2013 cd4 455 23% vl <40
Anti-HBs test (quantitative ) Anti-HBs positive
Titer 16.95 mlu/ml <10.00
22/3/14 cd4 396 vl <40 24%
24/7/14 change to Teevir
24/9/14 cd4 517 vl <40 22%

Offline sanitex

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 11:59:12 PM »

No matter how much you believe in God or how much time you spend praying God is not going to cure you of HIV...only adhering to your meds will help you keep an undetectable Viral Load..so if you are on meds remember to keep taking them.

Hugs
Jan




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« Last Edit: March 04, 2009, 12:02:25 AM by sanitex »
27/12/07 cd4 20 vl 1million
10/4 /08 cd4 86 vl 63
1/7/08  cd4 186 vl undetectable
16/10/08 cd4 196 vl undet
23/1/09 cd4 248 vl un
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
13/12/11 cd4 410 vl undet 23%
24/2/12 cd4 545 vl undet 26%
on 22/2/12 change truvada to Recovir-EM
due to no stock on Truvada.
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
7/7/12 cd4 359 vl <40 22%
23/8/12 cd4 400 vl <40 23%,
testosterone test 7.5 ng/ml and
thyroid (TSH)1.32 ulu/ml creatinine.eGFR blck 1.5 all fasting test morning.
13/12/2012 cd4 523 24% vl <40
18/3/2013 cd4  513  23% vl <40
regimen ATRIPLA
03/8/2013 cd4 429 22% vl <40
13/11/2013 cd4 455 23% vl <40
Anti-HBs test (quantitative ) Anti-HBs positive
Titer 16.95 mlu/ml <10.00
22/3/14 cd4 396 vl <40 24%
24/7/14 change to Teevir
24/9/14 cd4 517 vl <40 22%

Offline joemutt

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2009, 12:50:55 AM »
Sanitex, let s make a deal. You stop all medical treatment and leave it up to god
while I continue my meds and monitoring my health to the best of my abilities.
Then, let us talk again one year from now. ::)

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2009, 01:06:20 AM »
Didn't Jesus cure the lepers and awakened Lazarus from the dead ? Is there any chance of this happening again, or must we wait till hell freezes over ?

  thanks Grass,i tell you those who believe shall be heal,so Annbiec,if you like carry hiv all your body without God kindness you must have been a dead person ,so have faith ok ,do not think like unbelievers,i believe oneday i'll send a testimony thread here.so thank you for misunderstanding the word of God.

Sanitex, to some degree I believe that there exist powers that are beyond our comprehension, however that they are able or willing to interfere in our wellbeing on earth, is a bridge too far for me. Hence my previous somewhat sarcastic remark.

Good luck with your supernatural endeavours and STAY healthy
Grasshopper

Offline AndyArrow

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2009, 08:01:35 AM »
God, is trying to help you. 

He (She) created the scientists who created the antiretrovirals so you could live.

It would seem your prayers for life were answered.  The answer might be different from what you wanted or expected but isn't a pill that sustains life a miracle?!

AA (who tries to believe a little of everything so all my bases are covered)  :D
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Offline Basquo

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2009, 12:42:55 PM »
I've been to enough Christian funerals to get the message that what your body can or can't do for you in this (part of) life really doesn't matter when you go to the next (part of) life.

Offline anniebc

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2009, 05:42:54 PM »

   Annbiec,if you like carry hiv all your body without God kindness you must have been a dead person ,

Nope..alive and well and enjoying my life...thanks to the scientists and the meds I take.

Jan
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Offline Ann

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2009, 06:40:37 PM »
There was this guy who was out in his dingy, fishing sea bass one day when an unexpected gale blew up. The poor bloke was capsized and the dingy sank. He tread water and prayed to his God to save him.

In a little while, another small dingy came by and the fisherman tried to help our God-fearing hero. "No!" said the man, "God will save me!"

Fifteen minutes later, a commercial fishing boat came by and threw him a life-ring. "No!" said the man, "God will save me!"

Twenty minutes after that, a RNLI Lifeboat came along side him. "We'll help you aboard!" they shouted. "No!" said the man, "God will save me!"

Ten minutes after that, the man entered the Pearly Gates. "God?" he asked, "why didn't you save me?"

"What did you want?" God Thundered. "I sent another fisherman like you, and you said 'No!'! I sent one of the big fishing boats, and you said 'NO!'! I sent the flaming RNLI and still you said 'No!'.... what more could I do?" ???

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2009, 07:02:15 PM »
There was this guy who was out in his dingy, fishing sea bass one day when an unexpected gale blew up. The poor bloke was capsized and the dingy sank. He tread water and prayed to his God to save him.

In a little while, another small dingy came by and the fisherman tried to help our God-fearing hero. "No!" said the man, "God will save me!"

Fifteen minutes later, a commercial fishing boat came by and threw him a life-ring. "No!" said the man, "God will save me!"

Twenty minutes after that, a RNLI Lifeboat came along side him. "We'll help you aboard!" they shouted. "No!" said the man, "God will save me!"

Ten minutes after that, the man entered the Pearly Gates. "God?" he asked, "why didn't you save me?"

"What did you want?" God Thundered. "I sent another fisherman like you, and you said 'No!'! I sent one of the big fishing boats, and you said 'NO!'! I sent the flaming RNLI and still you said 'No!'.... what more could I do?" ???

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Offline anniebc

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2009, 10:46:29 PM »
LOL @Ann..some people just don't get the message do they.

Hugs
Jan :-*
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Offline sanitex

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2009, 06:39:06 AM »
Hi guys
             

               Thanks all you guys,Grass,Andy,Basquo, Ann, Anniebc,i really love this thread it make me feel happy,mostly when Anniebc send a thread to me,Also Joe,both of us live in thailand i appreciate you reply too.you guys have to know that some argument use to be a fun like Ann stated here about :;God will save me",it makes me laugh also .so Anniebc pls do not misunderstand me,we are all friends inthis forum ok, i love you guys for your chearing :D :) ;) :-*.i'm waiting for my resault nest week i'll inform you guys ,.thanks
27/12/07 cd4 20 vl 1million
10/4 /08 cd4 86 vl 63
1/7/08  cd4 186 vl undetectable
16/10/08 cd4 196 vl undet
23/1/09 cd4 248 vl un
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
13/12/11 cd4 410 vl undet 23%
24/2/12 cd4 545 vl undet 26%
on 22/2/12 change truvada to Recovir-EM
due to no stock on Truvada.
10/9/11 cd4 418 vl <40 %22
7/7/12 cd4 359 vl <40 22%
23/8/12 cd4 400 vl <40 23%,
testosterone test 7.5 ng/ml and
thyroid (TSH)1.32 ulu/ml creatinine.eGFR blck 1.5 all fasting test morning.
13/12/2012 cd4 523 24% vl <40
18/3/2013 cd4  513  23% vl <40
regimen ATRIPLA
03/8/2013 cd4 429 22% vl <40
13/11/2013 cd4 455 23% vl <40
Anti-HBs test (quantitative ) Anti-HBs positive
Titer 16.95 mlu/ml <10.00
22/3/14 cd4 396 vl <40 24%
24/7/14 change to Teevir
24/9/14 cd4 517 vl <40 22%

Offline Ann

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Re: urgent,'question
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2009, 11:20:13 AM »
There's a bit more to the fisherman story that I didn't mention yesterday. Our God-fearing hero wasn't fishing alone - his atheist next-door-neighbour was with him. When the atheist found himself in the water, he rationally looked around and found he was close enough to swim to shore. He climbed up on the beach and shouted to his friend, who was facing out to sea, to turn around and swim. His friend couldn't hear him because he was praying to God so loudly.

As our hapless God-fearing hero drifted further and further from the shore, the atheist ran to raise the alarm, first sending a dingy, then a larger boat and finally, the RNLI... and the rest, as they say, is history.

;)
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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