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Offline safeguy11

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blood contact
« on: April 24, 2009, 07:39:37 AM »
Earlier tonight I topped a ts. After the sex, I noticed a lot of blood. Condom didn't break, but not sure if the lube was oil based. Can oil based lube cause microscopic tears on condoms? Can I infect myself when I was washing myself? I noticed I was using the blood soaked paper towel to wipe my penis head and foreskin. Any risks from that? There was a great deal of blood everywhere, but condom stayed intact. Thanks in advance.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 09:09:55 AM »
Safe, "microscopic tears" in condoms are an urban myth. When a condom fails it is very clear what's happen because it's in shreds hanging from the hoop on your penis. You used a condom which is exactly what you are supposed to do. They provide very effective protection and by using one if your partner is HIV+ you are not at risk.

For future reference you might either bring your own water-based lube to be sure and/or ask the person you are with what they they are using.

This time I don't see any cause for concern for yourself nor any need for testing.

In general we do advise anyone who's sexually active to regularly have a full STD panel done as other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 05:57:32 PM »
Thank you. I really appreciate that.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2009, 06:36:00 PM »
You're welcome. Glad the exchange was helpful to you.
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Re: blood contact
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 09:31:56 PM »
So, no matter how much blood there was during sex and when I washed myself, I have no risk, as long as condom didn't break? Does dry blood that stayed on me before I got home and really washed up, offer a risk? I hate to be a pest, but need to be sure.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 10:27:59 PM »
As Andy has already advised you, NO RISK.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 10:06:06 PM »
How reliable is a 6 week test? I had another incident before this. I tested negative yesterday at 6  weeks.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 02:53:05 AM »
 What was your "other" risk?

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 04:39:45 AM »
I had insertive anal sex with ts. I used condom but never checked if it broke when I removed it. I had discharge after this event, so I assumed condom broke.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 06:05:55 AM »
safe,

When a condom breaks, it's obvious and you would have noticed. As for your discharge, you need to get that checked out by a doctor. You also need to know that other STIs are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. Intercourse with a condom is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

If you cannot put this behind you, go test. Unless you've been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse you've not told us about, don't be surprised by your negative result.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 06:19:44 AM »
I always use protection. Is 6 weeks a good sign, though?

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 07:57:45 AM »
safe,

Your six week negative isn't just a good sign, it's a conclusive result. You have not had a risk for hiv infection. You do not have hiv.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2009, 01:14:12 AM »
I rubbed the blood all over my urethra and under it. Still no risk? it had only been one minute tops, when I used the bloody paper towel.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2009, 03:55:41 AM »
safe,

Hiv is not transmitted from objects in the environment and guess what, a towel is an object in the environment. You can continue to test if you want, but your result isn't going to change. However, you will NOT be permitted to use this forum to wring your hands over this no risk incident. Please consider yourself warned.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2009, 06:16:09 AM »
I don't know if I'm making myself clear. I promise this is my last post. The bloody paper towel was not old. It was the one I was using to clean the blood I had on me from the anal sex. It had been like one minute after sex when I did this. I wiped my pubes and testicles which had blood, then accidently wiped my penis head, urethra and under it (sorry if graphic). Is this still no risk? Does transmission only happen inside the anus?Did it lose it's effectiveness to infect once it was outside the body? Thanks one more time. Bless you all.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2009, 06:32:01 AM »
safe,

We understood you the first time about the towel. Hiv is a very fragile virus. Once it's outside the body, small changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels quckly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. If we thought you had a risk, we'd tell you.

Again, continue to test if you want, but your negative result is not going to change in relation to this incident.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2009, 07:12:10 AM »
I will continue to have safe sex with all partners. I wont have a risk when removing condoms and getting blood on my urethra and surrounding area? I don't have to worry about getting blood on my tip when I wash and clean? As long as I continue to use condoms and have no breaks, I wont infect myself, no matter how many twists I add, such as wiping blood on my urethra and foreskin from tissues after cleaning the blood on me from anal sex? I read from Dr. Bob if blood came in contact with urethra theres a risk, same as unprotected. Is he using CYA logic? It doesn't make sense, how would you clean yourself after sex, if you have a chance of infecting yourself? Can I move on or do I have to test for this?

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2009, 08:19:57 AM »
We're not responsible for what Dr. Bob or anyone else says on another site.

Use condoms consistently for intercourse and you will be well protected. And no, you will not infect yourself when you remove a condom or are otherwise cleaning yourself up after intercourse. As Ann has already told you, HIV is a fragile virus and is not transmitted from environmental surfaces including paper towels nor from your own hands.
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Re: blood contact
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2009, 10:16:58 PM »
Yes, I know about environmental exposure. I thought that was only if you come in contact with blood, like in your arms or legs, my worries are blood coming in contact with my urethra and foreskin. Is it still the same? Thank you for answering my questions without losing it. Deeply appreciated.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2009, 03:13:08 AM »
safe,

Hiv in the environment is hiv in the environment, no matter where it touches your body.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2009, 08:26:46 AM »
Going for my 7 week test today. Please wish me good luck.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2009, 12:36:40 AM »
Couldn't do it. Too scared to test.

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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2009, 04:14:27 AM »
safe,

You will not be permitted to use this forum to wring your hands over your inability to take a test you don't even need. You didn't have a risk, remember?

This is your last time out warning.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2009, 10:03:50 PM »
I know you said no risk to both my worries. I just been feeling light headed and dizzy a lot.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2009, 10:07:25 PM »
Then see a doctor because it has nothing to do with HIV.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2009, 06:52:54 AM »
I've had headaches after 4 weeks of my blood contact. They been going on for almost 3 weeks.

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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 07:19:50 AM »
Safe,

Go see a doctor about your headaches.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2009, 07:24:09 AM »
8 week test was negative via home access. I guess with my non risk and 8 week test, I can rest, right?
Thank you for this website.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2009, 07:52:19 AM »
That negative result is no surprise here. You never needed to get tested.

The very fact that you are asking if that's enough is an indication you are still in doubt. Of course your doubts have no basis in HIV science.

HIV is not a problem for you. Give it up and get on with your life. 
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Re: blood contact
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2010, 02:28:24 PM »
Back for some more info.
Mutual masturbation with a guy, no penetration. His penis rubbed my butt a couple of times. He never inserted his penis. He also masturbated himself and used the same hand to rub my penis head. He also fingered me a bit. I saw pre-cum on him. Maybe he also had it on his finger,then fingered me. How dangerous was all this?
Thanks, I promise not to post worried nonsense after your replies.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2010, 03:38:56 PM »
No risk.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2010, 04:31:05 PM »
No risk? He just touched his precum then fingered me. Still no risk? The precum was fresh.

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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2010, 04:46:44 PM »
Man, his digits could have been dripping in precum and it still wouldn't have made any difference. NO RISK! HIV is a fragile virus and it is absolutely not passed in that manner.

You have been coming here long enough to know by now that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are through unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. It really is that simple. Use condoms for those and you will be well protected.
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Re: blood contact
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2010, 05:02:28 PM »
Thank you, Andy. I wish a great 2010 to you all.

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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2010, 05:06:11 PM »
You're welcome. On with your life and make sure to use condoms for the right situation.
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Re: blood contact
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2010, 04:58:18 PM »
No need to test? Can I go back to my gf and have unprotected sex now?

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2010, 07:50:50 PM »
I'm such an idiot. What I did was the same as receptive anal with precum. So much for being careful.

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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2010, 07:52:38 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2010, 08:41:25 PM »
No, what you did was NOT the same as unprotected anal. Semen on the fingers is not the same thing as have a penis in your anus.

What is the same in your latest frenzy is that you are again carrying on over a non-risk. There is no need for testing. Keep this up and you will soon find yourself getting another Time Out from the site.

Consider yourself warned.
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Re: blood contact
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2010, 06:04:31 PM »
How is this a no risk? He touched his penis which had precum, 5 seconds later he fingered me.

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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2010, 06:53:24 PM »
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions, therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2010, 08:05:10 PM »
Even if it was 5 seconds?

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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2010, 08:19:24 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: blood contact
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2010, 08:31:17 PM »
Fresh precum is able to infect is what I have read. Why am I getting a time out.

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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2010, 08:40:31 PM »
Safe,

Precum is a risk when there is an unprotected, precumming dick inside your asshole. This isn't what happened.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. This is your second TO and will last 56 days. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.


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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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