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Offline al429

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Blood topic
« on: February 23, 2009, 08:52:55 PM »
Hi,

Before  I start I just want to say thank you for a wonderful website. 

Ok here goes:

I went to work (i need to write this: i bit my skin on my  all my nails until it bled and therefore i put bandaid on both thumbs, where it bled more than the other nails)......and had serous stomach problems....so i went to use the work washroom...i did my thing and then went to urinate in the stand up urinal.........and went straight back to my work station.......midday i see a blood spot on my thumb (below where the bandaid is)......and here i start thinking where did this come from?  and so now I am worried that i picked this blood up from when i was in the washroom and what if i collected this blood and wiped my ass (sorry for being graphic) and allowed for this blood to touch my ass.  I had diarahea and so i did have this burning sensation in my butt....and after i went to take a piss...holding my penis with the same thumb that had this blood on it.......guy/girls i am worried.....does this warrant a test?  What if i got this blood from the tissue dispenser and then wiped my ass and injected it to my microscopic cuts in my butt???  Please don't laugh, this is a serious question.  And then right after took a piss using that same thumb to hold and jiggle my penis.  I don't know where i got this blood (I DEFINITELY KNOW IT WASN'T FROM THE BANDAID/THUMB INJURY AS THE BLOOD SPOT WAS WAY DONE FROM THE BAND AID)

PLEASE HELP!

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 09:13:45 PM »
HIV is not transmitted this way, you had no risk whatsoever..HIV has to get into the blood stream in order to infect..please read the Welcome Thread and follow the lessons on how HIV is and is not transmitted.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 09:32:34 PM »
Hi Anne,

Are you sure that this was not even a remote risk?  Please let me know, I am worried that this disease has it in for me.  I have been very promiscuous but always protected, so I am not worried about this.  It's just I don't know how this blood got onto my thumb....and I guarantee that this wasn't my blood as my bandaid was way way up from the blood spot.  Ann, Andy, rapid, any expert, please let me know what you think....i don't mean to be a pain...but if i have to test then i will.  The last test i took was mid 2008.

thank you all once again,

Al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 09:48:53 PM »
i also want to add that i noticed this blood spot late in the afternoon....so this blood spot may have come into contact with my urethra, anus (as i wiped my but hard after finishing my business)....i also went to the bathroom a couple of times already (touched my penis with the same thumb).........i don't know where else I could have exposed 'open' areas on my body....i know my urethra, my anus, perhaps my nose, i am not to sure.....but i know this was not my blood.

please let  me know the truth.


thank you,

al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 01:04:36 AM »
Here is the truth. This isn't an HIV situation. If HIV were that easily spread, everyone would have it.
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 04:19:10 AM »
If we thought for one moment there was a risk of you contacting HIV we would tell you..we don't play games here, and we don't lie, you ask the questions we give you the answers.

It seems to me that you need to educate yourself on how HIV is transmitted, otherwise you are going to spend alot of time worrying over nothing.

No Risk..time to move on.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 06:06:47 AM »
Thank you so much for your time and help.

Al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 08:05:17 AM »
Al,

Just chiming in to agree with Anniebc and Worker that you did NOT have a risk for hiv infection with this blood worry of yours.

Along with reading the Transmission lesson linked to in the Welcome thread like Anniebc asked you to, here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THIS "BLOOD TOPIC", anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann


edited because I accidently called Worker by another member's name. Whoopsie!  ;D
« Last Edit: February 24, 2009, 08:08:04 AM by Ann »
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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 08:04:23 PM »
Hey Everyone,

So I had an incident and I just want the opinions of the experts.  I don't think I was at risk, but I thought why not post here to affirm my thought.

I went out on Saturday night and everything was going well until the end of the night were i got so drunk.  I ended puking in the men's urinals in the club.  I don't remember this, but a friend of mine said this happened.  Later a bunch of us got into a brawl outside, and I busted my upper lip as well as cuts that bled all around my knuckles.  We got arrested and thrown in jail.  I was so hammered and woke up on the concrete slab, in jail, with blood on both my knuckles.  I had cuts all over, some gaping as the blood clot was pretty big.  Also my wrists were cut as well, and I believe this was from the handcuffs.  Is this something to be concerned about in regards to being exposed to HIV?  Also the concrete slab in jail had spots of blood on it, and I am not sure if it was the blood that was on my knuckles, fists, upper lip (again i was really wasted).  I learnt my lesson here people, so please don't judge me.  I was way out of character.

Thanks again,

Al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2009, 08:19:08 PM »
No.


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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 08:21:10 AM »
No, you weren't at risk for HIV.

But I sure would think twice about having gotten so drunk that you were out of control and blacking/blanking out. Now that IS dangerous.

This is another non-HIV situation.
Andy Velez

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2009, 12:01:15 AM »
Thanks Guys.  I really appreciate what you do here.  Thanks a million. 

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 07:50:30 PM »
Hi Everyone,

I hope everyone is well.  I has a slight incident last night, and thought again i would run it by all of you.  I went to a dealers house with a friend of mine to pick some weed; this guy looked like a real bad ass with tatoos and thug like attitude.  When he opened the door he was clutching his right wrist.  My friend asked what happened and he replied his dog just bit him and instructed us to go into the living room to wait while he cleaned up his wound.  His right wrist was bleeding pretty badly and so we told him to take his time.  We sat on the couch, I was weary and a bit panicky of where we were.  Anyways as soon as I sat down, his dog came out what seemed like from nowhere and immediately grabbed my left hand viciously.  He bit down so hard that I started screaming until the owner came and literally punched his dog until he let go of my hand.  I looked down at my left hand and in horror I was bleeding all over, with blood dripping on the floor.  The dealer apologized, but I was in so much pain and took off my shirt to stop the bleeding.  I went to the emergency room to get treated for my wound right after.  I was so upset and dazed at what had just happened.

My question here is if the dealer was HIV positive and the dog bit him moments before he bit me, is there a chance i could contract the HIV virus in this scenario?

Thanks again everyone.

Al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2009, 08:53:05 PM »
HIV is not transmitted by animal bite or insect bites.

Offline al429

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2009, 08:55:53 PM »
Thanks Rapid.  Andy, Anne, any other experts want to chime in and evaluate this, i would really appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks again Rapid.

Al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2009, 04:20:07 AM »
Al,

Hiv is a very fragile virus. Small changes in temperature, pH levels and moisture content all quickly damage hiv and so do certain proteins and enzymes in saliva. There's no way on earth hiv from the dealer would have remained intact and able to infect while in the dog's mouth before he bit you.

In future, maybe you should wait outside while your friend goes to his dodgy mates for pot.

It's time you started applying what you've learned about hiv (have you bothered to read the Welcome thread yet?) to your own life. We're not here to hold your hand every time something happens to you.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2009, 06:18:40 PM »
Thanks Ann for the input.  Again truly remarkable what you guys do here.  I do want to apologize for keeping on coming back for issues that are non-incidents.  I will try not to come here or be paranoid about blood incidences.  I have read the welcome thread and do know all the ways in how one might get infected with HIV.  I guess it is normal to think that 'your' incidence is different and might be a 'new' way to get infected.  Again thank you and God Bless.

Happy Easter.

Al

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2009, 08:30:08 PM »
Hello Everyone,

I hope all is keeping well.  So I have not been here for awhile and have managed to not worry about the many small incidences that have happened since i was last here.  I realized the HIV virus is very fragile and having it transmit outside the body is extremely rare.  I had something happened to me last night and again I just want to let go of it, but my mind just cannot let go.

I went out to a club with some friends and towards the end of the night i got caught in the middle of a brawl.  We all got thrown out and my shirt and part of my face was dripping/drenched in blood.  I did not get any cuts, as I was not fighting at all, i was just caught in the middle of this.  I just got drenched with so much blood all over my upper chest and side of my face.  After this i ended up puking on my shirt and shoes outside the club, as i was pretty hammered.

My friends dropped me home, and i just took all my clothes off and went to bed.

Now I don't know if i may have been at risk of getting HIV with all the blood that was on me (i don't know if some blood got into my ears, nose, mouth or any cuts that i may have).  When I got up in the morning I did not even look at my body, i just quickly jumped in the shower.  I was hoping the experts can assess my risk here?  My mind is telling me that I shouldn't worry about this, but at the same time it's telling that their  was too much blood present all over me for this not to be risk.

please help.

Al



 

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2009, 08:32:21 PM »
Seek professional mental help for your phobias.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2009, 08:34:52 PM »
Thanks for the response Rapid.  It doesn't address the incident, but okay thanks for your input.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »
Andy, Ann, your input would be so much appreciated.  I have not been here for over 3 months, please could I get both of your comments.

Thank you and God Bless.

Al

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2009, 10:01:23 PM »
Nothing you have described in your latest incident would have put you at any risk for HIV transmission. Zero risk. Period. End of story.

Get on with your life. No testing necessary nor any cause for further concern.
Andy Velez

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2009, 10:04:22 PM »
Thanks Andy for your response.  I really appreciate it.

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2009, 06:06:41 PM »
So I'm really trying to let this incident go, but i keep replaying this whole scenario.  The more I try to remember the less I seem to remember exactly (again due to intoxication) what happened.  All i seem to know is other peoples blood got on me that night, not drops, but glass full's on my shirt, arms and side of my face.  I cannot seem to remember if some blood got into my eyes, mouth, nose, ears, or the many minor cuts that people have on their body that they do not know about.

I am really worried, and it probably serves me right.  Intoxication leads to no control and significant memory loss, i just don't want to do this anymore.

Andy thanks for your response.  After reading this, do you still stand by your expert assessment?

Ann any thoughts?

Thanks and God Bless.

Al 

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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 07:18:22 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2009, 09:44:23 PM »
Rapid 2 posts in 3 months does not seem excessive.  I did not want something to happen for me to be here.....honestly.

I would just like to hear Ann and her thoughts on this and if Andy still stands by his initial assessment given the information i added.  That's all I want. 

I am really not here to offend anyone.

Thanks and God Bless.

Al

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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 10:08:46 PM »
Andy told you that you were never at risk and no matter what spins you want to put on it the answers are NOT going to change.

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2009, 08:40:00 AM »
There's no reason to change my initial assessment. Just because you continue to have thoughts that scare  you doesn't change the facts of the situation.

You are worrying needlessly.
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Re: Blood topic
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2009, 07:19:01 PM »
Thanks Andy and Rapid for the response.

But I just realized something that might change this whole scenario:

after getting blood all over me, I puked outside the club and wiped my mouth, lips, and bottom part of my nose with my right arm and hand (and this arm and hand was covered in other peoples blood!); i did this to wipe the remnants of puke out of my mouth (sorry for the gory details).  I puked literally 4 to 7 minutes after getting peoples blood all over my chest, arms and side of my face.  Could I have gotten infected with HIV by this or is it possible to be infected in this manner (wiping HIV blood onto your mouth, lips, nose etc.)?

Sorry Rapid, I just remembered this detail and visualized how I was using my bloodied arm to wipe my face (mouth, lips, and partial nose).

Please answer this please... and I can just let this go.

Thanks and God Bless.

Al

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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2009, 07:37:10 PM »
Al,

Your additional gory details do not change our original assessment. You just don't seem to be understanding the fact that hiv is not transmitted outside the body this way.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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