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Offline augustodes

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possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« on: February 01, 2009, 08:06:04 AM »
Thanks everyone on this board for the support.
I'm a 29 male, hetero.
Last January 25, I had unprotected oral sex from a prostitute, a 20 year old girl.
I received unprotected  oral sex from 30-50´s, then, after this, 'Ive put my condom (witch did not fit my entire penis, because it was too tight, so a one,maybe two fingers of the bottom did not got covered by the condom), then I tried to have an vaginal intercourse, but after a couple positions, i gave up and decided to get back to oral, this time, protected by a condom. Witch resulted in nothing (no ejaculation), I gave up after a couple minutes, then, went back home, took a massive shower and now (after a week) I'm feeling very worried about my exposure...cant even sleep...i wake up in the middle of the night, worried. Also, I'm feeling this hot sensation over my neck and shoulders that wont let me relax.
Visiting a doctor, witch gave me two medications for common SDT, said I need to wait now for the possible 'window' of 6 months.
After calling a SDT/AIDS hot line, the person told me to wait 2 months and get tested by a possible infection, but stated that my risk was very minimal, and that the girl exposed herself to a more risky situation than me, if I had something, and told me to remain calm and get tested for a negative exam after the 2 months and forget it, since in her opinion, the tests today are safe to believe after this time.

So as I'm very nervous about this, i decided to ask here, about my situation, and whats the time i really should wait to get tested, since my doctor stated a 6 months period and the person at the hot line said 2.

I'm getting nervous, because of the initial unprotected oral sex and the following oral (protected) after a brief vaginal penetration (also protected), witch might have exposed my penis to vaginal fluids since my penis were not fully covered by the condom.

Can you guys help me on this? Should i get a test now to assume i have nothing, then re-test every month til the 3 months window?
Many thanks.

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 08:19:04 AM »

Your risk for hiv is zero.  The anxiety your feeling is probably causing your sleeplessness etc. Relax, and if it makes you feel better get tested in two months.


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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 08:29:01 AM »
aug,

Relax, you haven't had a risk for hiv infection and you don't need to test. Getting a blowjob is not a risk - not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first.

Protected intercourse is just that - protected. It's the head of the penis you need to have covered (and yours was), not the shaft. The shaft of your penis is just like skin anywhere else on your body and hiv cannot infect through skin.

When there has been an actual risk (you have NOT had a risk) the window period for hiv testing is three months and it has been three months for years now. The people who told you otherwise don't know what they're talking about.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THIS SPECIFIC ENCOUNTER, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 08:31:54 AM »
Veritas,

Your mis-information is misleading. The window period, where there has been a risk, is three months, not two. Don't know why you saw fit to mention two.

You are not authorised to post in this forum. Please read the posting guidelines in this section's Welcome Thread - and pay particular attention to this one:

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 08:37:45 AM »
Thanks veritas!
I've forgot to mention that no matter I do not have any clear sign of herpes in my mouth, I'm constantly feeling since my situation, my mouth herpes (witch I really have, one, maybe two times a year), and also, feeling this weird sensation under my axil, like it there were something under it...like a node or something, thus, not really visible.
I'm nervous about all this situation, and already have decided to adopt complete sexual abstinence, since this is the second time I find myself paranoid about past sexual relations.
You told me to relax, I don't know other people, but I get really nervous about all those SDTs and relax is something hard for me to find on this times.
Also, this 'hot' sensation on the back of the head and shoulders, put me back on stress wenever I'm feeling relax, so.. its hard!

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2009, 08:55:49 AM »

Ann,

Sorry for breaking the rule. However, I knew there were tests out their that can determine positive status without having to wait 13mos:


  Am I Infected?
(A Guide to Testing for HIV)
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I can't wait 13 weeks to find out! Are there other options?


There are tests that can look for the virus—not antibodies—in the blood. Because the virus becomes detectable in the blood much sooner after infection than antibodies, these tests are an option for people who simply can't wait 13 weeks to find out the results of standard ELISA/Western blot testing. And because there has been some encouraging research indicating that people who diagnose their HIV infection early—meaning the first weeks after infection, before antibodies become detectable—can protect their immune systems by starting treatment early, these tests are proving to be very useful for people who recently engaged in a high-risk activity (e.g., receptive anal sex without a condom) and fear they might have been infected.

These tests look for fragments of HIV, either floating around freely in the bloodstream or inside cells in the bloodstream. Some tests—known as qualitative tests—yield a "positive" or "negative" result, meaning that the virus was or wasn't found (GenProbe's Aptima HIV-1 RNA Qualitative Assay is the only test approved for this purpose). Other tests—known as quantitative tests—yield a "viral load" result, meaning the amount of virus in a sample of blood. Roche's quantitative Amplicor HIV Monitor Test is frequently used by doctors and research centers but is not specifically approved for this purpose. It is only approved to monitor to people who are known to be infected with HIV, particularly to find out if their treatment is working properly.

These tests are highly sensitive, meaning that they can detect even the tiniest amounts of HIV in a blood sample. However, they are not always specific, meaning that they can sometimes yield a false-positive result. In turn, follow-up testing using standard ELISA/Western blot assays, is typically recommended.

These tests must be ordered by a healthcare provider, meaning that you should call your doctor if you think you may have recently been exposed to the virus and would like one of these tests. It's also important to keep in mind that these tests can be expensive and are not usually covered by insurance for diagnostic purposes.


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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 08:57:57 AM »
August, this is an HIV website. Period. All we can do is evaluate a situation in relation to HIV. As far as that is concerned you were not at risk in the incident(s) you have described. You used a condom for intercourse which is exactly what you're supposed to do. They provide very effective protection.

As far as HIV risk is concerned, no condom is necessary when receiving oral. It's not a risk for HIV transmission. Period.

Other STDs are a separate matter. If you're having any concerns you need to be discussing them with your doctor. We always recommend that anyone who's sexually active ought to have a full STD panel done at least annually, and more frequently if there are symptoms.

Nothing you are reporting suggests yours is an HIV situation. Period.

 
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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 09:06:20 AM »
Thanks Ann.
Based on what I've read on the web, there has been a few cases of hiv infection trough oral sex, most of them with ejaculation (witch was not my case, and passive).
Do you really think i do not even need to get tested? It was a relation with a prostitute (I mean, even if she got a negative test a month ago, who knows about others she had since, even that same night, witch I assume that theres a possibility to be an infected 'customer'), and I'm really concern about it.
UPDATE: Thanks Andy for your help too, maybe I've got any other SDT that is causing those 'symptoms' or they are a side effect of the medications I used to prevent SDT´s prescribed by my doctor.

Offline augustodes

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 05:11:30 PM »
Guys, im scared, the girl have also french kissed me a little (this is the only thing ive forgot to mention).
Today, a sorta an afta (a white thing like an acne on my gum, inside my mouth, only one actually) appeared. (a week from the situation)
Ive read everywhere that those 'mouth infections' are most likely related to hiv on a case like mine.
Im totally scared, is this really a symptom? 
Ive already have some basic medication from my doctor, secnidazol, metronidazol and other one i cannot remember the name, indicated for common sdt's. So what is this? I have a clean mouth,never got these before.

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 06:40:27 PM »
At no time did you have a risk of contracting HIV. Whatever symptoms you are having take it to your doctor it's not an HIV concern.

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 07:28:01 PM »
Look, not that I'm being paranoid here or anything like it, but as I stated before, there has been unprotected oral sex (OK, is highly diffused that this pratice means 'theoretical' exposure) and after a brief protected vaginal intercourse, the girl have praticed oral on me again, this time, protected, but as I said before, not my entire penis was covered by the condom, plus, I had depilation one day before the incident...so maybe vaginal fluid got in contact with my penis, also, she removed the condom when I decided to stop.
All that has been said before by Ann, Andy and verities, have really put me on a more relaxed situation, as my doctor have really freaked me out, with all those medications saying that I had a risky situation, telling me to wait to the 6 months window.
But now, I'm having this...just freaked out.

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Re: possibile exposition? help me figure it out
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 07:54:30 PM »
As you have been told over and over again you didn't have a risk.

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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 08:04:01 PM »
It doesn't sound like your doctor knows very much about HIV risk. You didn't have any risk and 6 months testing is long outdated except for certain special situations -- and yours is not one such.

If you keep coming back here with more unwarranted uproar over a non-risk situation such as you had, you're going to end up getting a time out.

You have no cause to be concerned about HIV. Period.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 02:47:52 PM »
Hi

Im trying to wait calm to before testing at 6 weeks, but im extremely nervous with all anxiety and those 'feelings' im with.

Im constantly feeling a weird sensation on my armpits, groin and around my neck. Im checking them everyday for possible 'balls' under skin (swollen lymph nodes?) or anything but all seems fine beside this constant pain on my armpits.
Also, had herpes on my mouth exactly at a month from my situation. Witch disappeared using common medication for those, in about 5 days. I have mouth herpes about 10 years, always one two times a year.
My dentist said my mouth is ok, but i have noticed something like a geo tongue.
Also, my tongue was felling like it was burned for 3-5 days until today.
And this little red ball appeared on top of my chest, just one, but it looks really weird since i have never noticed anything like it before, today it looks tinnier, but i still can see it.

Im thinking i might have done something wrong... Unprotected oral is not safe sex, despite the fact every moderator here says it is not a risk for hiv, why am i feeling all those things? Maybe it was a defective condom and i had not noticed? Im nervous.

Btw, that 'afta' i stated before, was nothing. My dentist told me that it is just my salivary glands what i thought it was aftas.

Thanks and sorry, im really confused and nervous.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 03:22:57 PM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2009, 03:39:43 PM »
This is not the place for you to be laundry listing what you call your symptoms. We believe it that you're anxious and nervous. But not of that changes the facts of the situation that you were not at risk for HIV transmission.

Symptoms? Discuss them with your doctor if they persist.

We've told you what we think of your situation. No risk. We can't do anything else for you about this. See a therapist or other professional if you can't let go of this unwarranted concern.

If you come back here with more of the same you're going to get a Time Out. Consider yourself warned.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2009, 08:28:45 PM »
Hello

Logged in to say that today I went to test.
Doctors there stated that tests they use, are from a generation of tests that are able to detect positives from 21 days and thats the reason they set the two months window period for testing here in Brazil. The tests are considered even more effective than elisa according to them.
The tests I did were:
Bio-Manguinhos HIV1/2
Rapid Check HIV1/2
Booth non reagent for HIV

Doctors also stated that receiving unprotected oral sex is not taken as a risk situation like you guys have said here before, over and over, including for me.
Going to have another test at 4 months just to be sure, but feeling a lot less anxious now.
Thanks for your guidance and information.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2009, 06:42:29 PM »
Went to another test, pretty much the same one I've done at the first time.
All results came back as non reagent, negative for hiv.
It's a double test (Bio Manguinhos/Rapid check), done at three months after my risk situation.

I wanna ask if based on this results I can rely on them to assure that the results are really negative and no need to do another test.

Based on your experience, have you guys seen any negative test turns out to positive after the three months window?

And a last one, if all results are trustable after 6 weeks, why re-test at three and/or six months?
Thanks everyone.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2009, 07:00:47 PM »
You're HIV negative. Period. End of story.

We follow the CDC recommendation of testing for a conclusive result at 13 weeks.
Andy Velez

 


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