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Offline ethan_hines

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Night Sweats
« on: September 03, 2008, 02:51:25 PM »
After seroconversion, why do the symptoms stop. I mean if I had the flu, and my body didn't fight it off , wouldn't I still have the symptoms of the flu? Why does the body stop the fight?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 03:18:42 PM »
During seroconversion your immune system has not yet been compromised. 

Offline ethan_hines

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 12:25:09 PM »
if i understand correctly HIV replicates 1 billion times a day and there are 1 trillion cd4+ cells created per day is that about correct?

Offline ethan_hines

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Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 11:06:54 AM »
Why do drug companines prefer to make oral drugs that
a)Have to be metabolized by the liver
b)Create all sorts of digestion problems such as nausea,diarea,gas,ect
versus Injectable drugs such as Fuzeon that have to be injected twice a day and have no digestion side-effects?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 11:12:15 AM »
Just because a drug might be an injectable does not mean it is not metabolized by the liver.

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 11:17:50 AM »
My mistake, still I'd rather not have the side effects most associated with oral drugs, plus it's easier to explain having to inject (Like diabetes)

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 11:27:03 AM »
Even with Fuzeon you still have to take other HIV medications with it.

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Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 12:02:06 PM »
What has more celular toxicity, NRTI's that use analogues of DNA building blocks, or NNRTI's that inhibit RT from performing its functions?Is it posible that NRTI's can be incorporateds into normal celular activity.not just that of HIV's RT?

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 01:12:40 PM »
In the past month you've jumped from "Am I Infected" to "Living With" to "I Just Tested Poz" -- which part of the forum are you supposed to be in, ethan?  I'm a bit confused here.
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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 02:38:47 PM »
ethan,

If you haven't been confirmed as hiv positive, you should only be posting in the Am I Infected forum. If you persist without stating your status, you will be given a time out.

Please clarify.

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Re: Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 06:39:32 PM »
Hey Ethan,

I'm not sure what it is you are asking regarding toxicity.

As for nukes being incorporated into normal cellular activity, I have never heard of that happening.

Are you close to going on meds?

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Re: Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 08:00:35 PM »
"The object is to be a well patient, not a good patient"

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Re: Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 08:11:21 PM »
When the main DNA in human cells uses the fake DNA from NRTIs when making new cells, there are special repair mechanisms that prevent damage to the cell. But mitochondrial DNA is simpler and doesn't have these repair mechanisms. If fake DNA from nucleoside analogs gets used when mitochondria are copying themselves, the mitochondria can get damaged. Damaged mitochondria can't supply energy to a cell properly. The cell may become dysfunctional or even die.

Mitochondria are energy-producing parts (the scientific term is organelles) of human cells.

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Re: Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2008, 05:08:00 AM »
See Ann's last post here:

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=23534.msg298839#msg298839


Ethan

If you haven't read Ann's responce to you in that post then I suggest you do so.

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2008, 10:10:34 AM »
I'm sorry I didn't realize I had to be in a certain forum, I was just posting in the forum I though matched the questions. I'll be more carefull next time.

Sorry again,
Ethan

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2008, 10:13:17 AM »
I technically havn't testest positive, I had a negative on my six week test ( I was on 4 weeks of PEP) but I've been experiencing symptoms of accute infection, such as Periferal Nuropathy and night sweats.

Offline ethan_hines

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Re: Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2008, 10:20:31 AM »
Thank you tash08, you answered my question precisely

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Re: Which is More toxic NRTI's or NNRTI's?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2008, 11:23:59 AM »
I would suggest you not worry about any of this until you know you are poz or at least talk to a counselor about your fears.

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Re: Oral drugs vs Injectable Dugs
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2008, 11:25:13 AM »
You need to return to "Am I Infected Forum."

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2008, 12:13:06 PM »
Ethan,

I've merged your threads from other forums into your thread here in the Am I Infected forum, which is the only place you should be posting until you get your final results.

Make sure you read our posting guidelines found it the Welcome Thread. If you'd read this before posting like you're supposed to, you wouldn't have made the mistake of posting elsewhere.

I'm not expecting your six week negative to change.

Ann
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Offline ethan_hines

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Peptide T
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2008, 10:00:56 AM »
Where can I find more information about this old treatment, specifialy where can someone buy it?

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2008, 10:51:03 AM »
Ethan,

Once again I've merged your threads. Get with the program already.

There is no point in discussing treatments with you. You haven't tested hiv positive. I don't expect you to either.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ethan_hines

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2008, 01:08:58 PM »
Ann, you told me that until I know my status, I have to post in the "Am I infected" forum, so I did. Now you are telling me I can't even ask a question regarding HIV alternative treatments until I know my status? That doesn't seem fair.

Ethan

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 02:49:53 PM »
Ethan,

There's not a lot of point in talking to you about treatments for an infection you probably don't even have.

You've never even told us why you took PEP in the first place. You wouldn't be the first poster in these forums to take PEP over a no-risk situation.

And seriously, your six week negative is unlikely to change. When are you due for your confirmatory test?

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ethan_hines

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 03:52:53 PM »
I was perscribed PEP after sharing needles with someone poz.My 3month test will be on Oct 27th.

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 04:12:52 PM »
Symptoms mean nothing in telling you anything accurately about your HIV status.

And for you to simply dismiss a negative result at 6 weeks by saying that technically you haven't tested positive is quite frankly -- ridiculous. The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. As Ann has told you that earlier negative is very unlikely to change, your fears and symptoms notwithstanding.

Hopefully you will continue to test negative. If that changes we can discuss the situation at that time. We're not here to indulge you in exploring what if and maybe. Right now we think you're going to continue to test negative.

While you are waiting for the time until you can re-test you will find the time will pass much more easily if you get productively busy with other things in your life. And don't say oh, I'm too worried to do that. It won't fly here. Get busy with other things, the time will go, you'll get tested and we expect you will get a happy result.

If your symptoms continue you can discuss them with your doctor to find out the real cause.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

Offline ethan_hines

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2008, 09:43:10 AM »
What I meant by technically is I know PEP can delay seroconversion so while I may have tested neg on my 6week, I know it is not definitive.

Ethan
« Last Edit: October 15, 2008, 09:44:58 AM by ethan_hines »

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2008, 04:53:16 PM »
Is it possible to be negative but have a positlve result on a Viral Load Test?
Ethan

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2008, 05:06:25 PM »
Yes, that's why PCR tests are not approved for diagnostic use.

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Re: Why do the initial symtoms stop?
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2008, 06:32:26 PM »
It's because the PCR is such a highly sensitive test that it will not infrequently yield a false positive. 
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Offline ethan_hines

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Night Sweats
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2008, 05:37:12 PM »
Can someone shead some light on why people with HIV primarly sweat at night? I understand fever of anysort is the body's way of trying to eliminate infection. Also I would like to know if anyone can recomend proper sleepware that will wick sweat away from the body in the winter. I was thinking of wool but I'm not sure if that would work.
EH

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Re: Night Sweats
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2008, 05:55:50 PM »
Ethan, I'm assuming you still haven't had a test result at 13 weeks, in which case your HIV status is as yet not known.

Heavy sweats at night are not in anyway an HIV specific occurence. I can't tell you how many times people who have anxiously reported their "night sweats" have turned out to be HIV negative when they received their test results.

As with other symptoms or lack of same, there is no point in discussing them in terms of thinking that's going to tell you something accurately about your HIV status.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2008, 05:59:11 PM by Andy Velez »
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Re: Night Sweats
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2008, 06:06:20 PM »
Ethan,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines.

If you continue to ignore our posting guidelines, you'll be banned from the forums. Thank you for your cooperation.

Did you ever bother to confirm your negative status, or are you still trying to figure out your hiv status based on symptoms?

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Night Sweats
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2008, 06:30:34 PM »
My 3mo was neg,I still have one more test to complete (6mo). But I still think this topic warrants discusion if not for my information then for those who are troubled by chronic night sweats. I don't believe medical research has a satisfactory answer regarding Night Sweats, they either dismiss them as minor inconveniences, or assume they are related to another opportunistic infection. I don't think that's fair explanation for a condition that has existed for 25 years now. The only group of people that have a possible explanation are Chinese Acupuncturists.They said night sweats in HIV'ers are a sign of ones spleen yin deficiency. I've had quite a bit of time to exhaust to research and in many ways I am left with more questions then answers. I am not going to use this forum to pose them all but some including the one above.
EH


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Re: Night Sweats
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2008, 06:36:59 PM »
You have a conclusive negative test result. Move on and get a life.

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Re: Night Sweats
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2008, 06:41:26 PM »
This forum is not a place to do whatever research you choose. We've discussed your specific situation. You've reliably tested negative. There is no need for re-testing at 6 months, but go ahead an do that if you want to indulge yourself.

We're not going to get into a discussion of the what and wherefores of nightsweats with you.
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MCMD and HIV Associated Cognitive Impairment
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2009, 08:14:39 AM »
Is the Minor Congnitive Impairment Associated With HIV permanant? Can HAART reverse these effects? Are there any proven treatments other then HAART for MCMD? If someone has an undetectable level of HIV in the blood does that mean there is an undectable amount of HIV in the CNS?
Thank You

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Re: MCMD and HIV Associated Cognitive Impairment
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2009, 12:56:44 PM »
Ethan, you're not HIV+ and you shouldn't be posting in this section of the forums.  You've been warned repeatedly by the moderators to confine yourself to ONE thread in the "Am I Infected" section:

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=22904.0
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Re: MCMD and HIV Associated Cognitive Impairment
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2009, 01:10:02 PM »
Ethan, if you post outside of the "Am I Infected?" forum again, you will be banned from our forums.

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Topic Restrictions.
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2009, 06:27:09 PM »
 MCMD and HIV Associated Cognitive Impairment
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Is the Minor Congnitive Impairment Associated With HIV permanant? Can HAART reverse these effects? Are there any proven treatments other then HAART for MCMD? If someone has an undetectable level of HIV in the blood does that mean there is an undectable amount of HIV in the CNS?
Thank You
 
Re: MCMD and HIV Associated Cognitive Impairment
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Ethan, you're not HIV+ and you shouldn't be posting in this section of the forums.  You've been warned repeatedly by the moderators to confine yourself to ONE thread in the "Am I Infected" section:

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=22904.0

Ethan, if you post outside of the "Am I Infected?" forum again, you will be banned from our forums.
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By resticting topics to pozitives only's you are baiscaly saying it's better to be pozitive then negative which could lead to individuals like myself to take risks they would not normaly take.  FYI

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Re: Topic Restrictions.
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2009, 06:48:36 PM »

Ethan, if you post outside of the "Am I Infected?" forum again, you will be banned from our forums.
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By resticting topics to pozitives only's you are baiscaly saying it's better to be pozitive then negative which could lead to individuals like myself to take risks they would not normaly take.  FYI

So you're going to ignore what a moderator just told you, get yourself banned, and then run out to a bath house and get purposely infected because of a posting restriction rule on an internet message board?

Please seek some mental health assistance in the real world, and also learn how to formulate an argument without employing a strawman logical fallacy.
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Re: Topic Restrictions.
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2009, 03:12:50 AM »
Ethan

You have decided to ignore the warnings of a Moderator so please consider yourself banned from these forums.

Please do not attempt to create another username to get back into the forums because you will get caught.

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Re: Night Sweats
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2009, 08:01:01 AM »
Ethan,

You've been warned repeatedly about posting outside the Am I Infected forum. You don't seem to want to abide by our posting guidelines, so I've no choice but to ban you, as I told you I would on December 27th when I had to merge your threads once again. It's bad enough that you start new threads, but you're still also disregarding the fact you've been told to not post in other forums, such as the Mental Health forum where you left your latest gem.

This isn't a time out, it's a permanent ban.

Bye!

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