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Author Topic: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...  (Read 820 times)

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Offline OneTampa

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« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 09:33:56 AM by OneTampa »
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 10:06:08 AM »

Breaking News @ approx 10:00 am ,.... Supreme Court just ruled 5 to 4 in favor of same sex marriage equality !!


                                     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

             
« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 10:08:27 AM by J.R.E. »
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 10:16:47 AM »
Congrats to y'all who now can marry the loves of your life....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 10:34:31 AM »
Such a great day and the anniversary of the Windsor case.  Our friends, who were the KY plaintiffs, headed to D.C. yesterday.  I wondered if they got tipped off??  I don't think so.

I really thought Roberts would note want his name on the wrong side of history.  I guess I was naive-- obviously.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 10:53:17 AM »
The full text of the decision, and the dissenting view of the minority.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

The final three paragraphs,

The Court, in this decision, holds same-sex couples
may exercise the fundamental right to marry in all
States. It follows that the Court also must hold—and it
now does hold—that there is no lawful basis for a State to
refuse to recognize a lawful same-sex marriage performed
in another State on the ground of its same-sex character.
* * *
No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies
the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice,
and family. In forming a marital union, two people become
something greater than once they were. As some of
the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage
embodies a love that may endure even past death. It
would misunderstand these men and women to say they
disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do
respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its
fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned
to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s
oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the
eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.
The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth
Circuit is reversed.
It is so ordered.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 10:57:18 AM by zach »
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 11:18:03 AM »
When is that guy lighting himself on fire?  He said he would do it. 

Offline RobbyR

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 11:42:32 AM »
I live in Ky and am thrilled that now if/when I meet my Mr. Right I can get married just like anyone else! This is as epic as Brown v. Board of Education. Love will always win over hate plain & simple!
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 11:45:33 AM »
Many years ago when I lived in NYC I used to volunteer with Empire State Pride Agenda working to make gay marriage legal.  I did the volunteer work because I felt that it was the right thing to do, and much of the time it was fulfilling and often quite fun.

But I never thought that we would ever see this happen in my life time.  I always looked at it as if it was a long term goal that some future generation would see happen in their lifetime - not mine.

This is simply amazing and almost surreal.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 11:53:34 AM by bmancanfly »
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

 Bertrand Russell

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 12:00:55 PM »
I should prolly get married so I have someone to shave that back hair I cant get at .

Offline RobbyR

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 12:32:10 PM »
The next crucial step: a Comprehensive Federal Civil Rights Bill protecting all LGBT people giving us legal protections from any discrimination in employment, housing, etc. But I am just going to sit & revel in this for now!  :-* 8)
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 12:54:53 PM »
An honest tune with a lingering lead has taken me this far

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 01:21:11 PM »
Does  Florida still ban gays from adopting?  I was reading the decision settled that, too, saying gays have the right to adopt and that's good for society.  From want I was reading, ability to adopt was not automatically settled in this case.  But, since that was specifically mentioned, it settled it.  A state could not say we are forced to marry you, but we can still deny adoption rights. 

Offline RobbyR

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 03:24:26 PM »
I am just so thankful to our president on this issue for consistently being such an advocate for LGBT people president Obama is literally the most gay-friendly president in history he will be remembered not just for healthcare but for making the case for LGBT equality  :)

Looking ahead to the political landscape, I think it's safe to say that nationwide LGBT rights will only increase because the GOP is now a regional party, mostly white, very narrow. They cannot win a national election. It's certain that Hillary or Bernie will win the white house in 2016. The GOP will retain Congress & many statehouses, but the divided government of the dems in the white house & the GOP in Congress will continue for the forseeable future.

So bottom line with the dems in the white house, there's no way any anti-lgbt legislation or shady amendments will ever pass Hillary or Bernie won't allow it. So we can rest easy in that regard.
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 04:43:54 PM »
Love that map Zach. As hard as they may try the GOP loses in the end with their hate and intolerance.
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2015, 12:16:49 AM »
Here's a great article about two of the plaintiffs for KY, who I'm proud to call friends.  I talked with them tonight.  They were interviewed for Meet The Press.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/20/greg-bourke-michael-deleon_n_7024888.html

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2015, 12:27:55 AM »
Here are some of the absurd remarks, from the dissenters.  It is really is amazing and scary they sit on the Court, when you read what they say.  They don't think this is something they should decide and worry whether bigots will feel bad.  It appears for interracial marriage, they would have left it up to "changing minds" and popular vote.  They don't make any constitutional claims-- just this is being forced on society and will hurt religion and the religious.  Oh, and polygamy is next. 

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/06/26/3674385/dissent-marriage-equality/

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 01:10:01 AM »
Here are some of the absurd remarks, from the dissenters.

The article left out my personal favorite. I'm just grateful to be included in the decision, very thoughtful of Anthony.

Ask a hippie!!  ;D Score one for free love. <3

Quote
"Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and
spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if
intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is
abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the
nearest hippie. Expression, sure enough, is a freedom."

Justice Anthony Scalia, in his dissenting opinion against the same sex marriage order
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2015, 11:06:51 AM »
"He is my oldest child. The shy and retiring one over there with the Haitian headdress serving pescaíto frito."

Offline OneTampa

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Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Equality: US Supreme Court Ruling Very Near...
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 08:13:14 PM »


An estimated, 250,000 people showed up last night for the evening pride parade in St. Petersburg.


This event keeps getting bigger every year :

http://www.wtsp.com/videos/news/local/2015/06/27/29418157/


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http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40802.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=45159.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39722.msg495621;topicseen#msg495621

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39414.msg491701#msg491701


Diagnosed positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of 4/1/15,  t-cells are at 437,   Viral load remains <40

Current % is at 15%

  
 63 years young.

 


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