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Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« on: December 29, 2008, 11:46:05 PM »
Hello,

I have a concern.  I went to my dentist for my routine cleaning.  I have been going to the same dentist now for 7 years.

However, I noticed that as the hygenist (who normally cleans my teeth) was wearing gloves as usual.

The only thing is I didn't notice nor did I ask if the dental tools were clean.

After 2 weeks from my cleaning I am noticing a rash on both my arms and nausea and just not feeling well.  I don't have a fever.

I abstain from sex and never did drugs (whether injected or whatever).

Am I at risk from HIV?

Do I require an HIV test?

are the symptoms I described ARS?

Please help,

Thank you

Offline anniebc

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 11:57:26 PM »
Am I at risk from HIV?...NO

Do I require an HIV test?...NO

are the symptoms I described ARS?..NO

You are worrying over nothing.

Please read through the lessons here and educate yourself on how HIV is and sisn't transmitted.

Jan
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Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 07:52:56 AM »
Sorry for asking it's just that I never had these symptoms both arm rashes, and nausea ....just feeling "generally ill"

I am not even sleeping at night cause I am always worried.

I keep checking for symptoms

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 08:14:51 AM »
For some reason which has nothing to do with HIV science you are patching together bits and voila! attributing your rash and other "symptoms" to HIV. If your symptoms persist you should discuss them with your doctor. There's absolutely no sound basis for you to think HIV is the issue here. Period.
Andy Velez

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 08:17:42 AM »
Andy I appreciate the time you take in answering all our questions.

You and everyone else here on the forum are very informative and supportive.

I would like to ask a few other things and that's all please in regards to this

what makes you think it is not HIV related

do you think I require HIV testing

what is the risk of HIV at the dentist for a cleaning

please sorry for sounding this way

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 08:28:14 AM »
con,

Do you seriously think your dentist would allow the use of tools that weren't cleaned between patients? No way, mate. It doesn't happen. No dentist would open themselves to the kind of lawsuit that would result.

If you can't stop worrying about this, I suggest you ring the dentist and discuss your concerns about the tools with him.

Whatever is going on with you has NOTHING to do with hiv.

Ann
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Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 08:33:53 AM »
Thanks Ann,

I am just concerned cause back ini the 80's I heard there was a documented case of a dentist transmitting it to 6 of his patients.

do you think I require an HIV test

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 08:50:53 AM »
Con,

That was over twenty years ago! Today, all medical professionals know about hiv and they practice what is called universal precautions. This not only stops hiv transmission, but the transmission of other pathogens as well.

Once again, if you don't believe me, ring your dentist and discuss your concerns with him.

You only need to test for hiv if you've been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse with someone of unknown or positive hiv status. You do NOT need to test because you got your teeth cleaned! (Get a grip!)

You will not be permitted to use this forum to wring your hands over a visit to the dentist. If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 09:01:40 AM »
Thank you guys for all your help

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 07:35:43 PM »
just so I know for sure

what are non-sexual ways a person can get HIV

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2008, 08:17:48 PM »
Sharing works with other IV drug abusers.

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 02:32:09 PM »
I was resting assure about no risk for HIV from dental cleaning until I read this on www.thebody.com:

This is what someone wrote

What is your intake of this?



The Body.com


where do i go from here
Apr 5, 2007

recently i was diagnosed as HIV+. I am a very clean person. No sexual activity with anyone, but my wife of 16 years. No blood transfusions, no drug use so no shring of needles. The risk factors are not there. The only thing thaI can think of if I have had oral surgery and a few kindey stone operations, along with regular dental cleaning. There is the stigma out there that it is only a gay's man disease and my wife thinks that is how i got it. We have talked many times and tried to figure this out, if it was in the medical fiedl we may never fidn out, but how do I help her understand that she is the only person that I have been with. I have been tested for all the other STD's and they have come up negative. It is so baffling to us. Would it also be wise to get a second opinion?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 02:43:47 PM »
Do you know what a liar is? Say good bye to the forum.

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 02:46:45 PM »
what do you mean RapidRod

I think you are all great people

God bless you all

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 02:52:56 PM »

Offline RapidRod

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2009, 02:55:27 PM »
You should have paid attention to the replies of this forum. You had already received your warning.

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2009, 02:57:57 PM »
but why did you say liar?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2009, 03:00:43 PM »
It would have paid you to pay attention to where you grab your information. You grabbed it off the mental forum..

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2009, 03:02:33 PM »
yes the mental forum but the man confirmed he was HIV + and didn't have any sexual or needle-sharing risks other than sleeping with his wife.


sorry if I can't distinguish between who is a liar and who isn't especially online

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 03:03:50 PM »
Rapid I never asked you this but

based on what I have said as my "risk" what do you think my HIV test result outcome will be?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2009, 03:30:40 PM »
You haven't listened since your started posting. Now listen, "YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK." End of discussion.

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2009, 03:34:02 PM »
Thank you RapidRod

You guys are the greatest bunch.

Very informative and helpful to us "worried" people

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2009, 04:04:38 PM »
Concerned,

People aren't always honest about how they picked up their infection - especially when there's a life-partner involved.

You can continue to search the internet for scary - and inaccurate -  hiv information, but you will not be permitted to continually bring it here for us to critique for you. We've given you accurate, up-to-date information and now it's time for you to apply it to your life and your reading.

You're heading for a time out.

I won't warn you again.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 10:10:07 AM »
Ok,

I must say you guys are always right.  You guys are very informative.  And I am sorry if I bothered you with my questions.

I did the HIV test after 1 month of going for the dental cleaning.  I called the doctor to see if my HIV test result is in and my HIV test result - NEGATIVE!!!!!  Yes I know you wonderful people told me this.  I know 3 months is the window period.  However, I can now safely say that I haven't had a risk by just going to the dentist for a cleaning.  So I am not testing over this in another 2 months.  I have been going to the same dentist and had the same hygienist for over 7 years.

I want to thank you all.


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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2009, 10:27:16 AM »
Concerned,

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you'll remain hiv negative. It really is that simple.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2009, 10:32:55 AM »
Thank you Ann

I have read many of your posts yours, Andy, Rod and a few others here and you guys are all very informative and supportive.

I am wondering.  Did you guys require special classes for all this knowledgeable information.  I mean your info is fact not myth.

Thank-you all again


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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 10:42:08 AM »
Concerned,

I can only speak for myself - but I've been positive for going on twelve years now and I've read the research and kept up-to-date. I also pick my doctor's brains (and the nurses) at the clinic where my hiv is monitored whenever there's something I want clarification on. My hiv doc only does clinical practice one day a week - the rest of the time he's involved in research at the University of Liverpool. He's published extensively on the subject of hiv.

I don't just talk the talk, I walk the walk. Was in a relationship with an hiv negative man for over eight years, and he remained hiv negative.

You can also check out the About Us page.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline ConcernedHIVQ

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Re: HIV Transmission From Routine Dental Cleaning?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2009, 10:46:10 AM »
Ann I hope they find a cure for HIV.  In my opinion, I don't think anyone deserves this terrible virus.  Whether people got it through high risk events or not. 

However, I want to say that you guys make this a wonderful site.  I have learned a lot from you all here on this site.  Thank you for dedicating your time to inform us.

I guess the only way we have now to fight HIV/AIDS is protection and education.

 


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