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Offline jimmy5447

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Blood Worry
« on: August 03, 2006, 06:48:23 AM »
Hi I recently had some mutual masturbation play with a girl who then produced some ky lube/jelly and lubed my anus and stuck a finger in.Is it possible that the lube was tainted by previous use or on purpose to pass on hiv.I do not know the persons history

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 07:11:33 AM »
The slick answer is NO.

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 07:12:49 AM »
Jimmy,

No, there is absolutely NO risk in what you describe. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that does not remain able to infect when it is outside the human body.

Please read through the Welcome Thread and follow the Lessons links for further information.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 07:20:33 AM »
Thankyou ,could you also tell me if I have herpes and there are no visible sores are there any hiv risks if I wear a condom as I have read there is an increased hiv risk with herpes

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 07:53:32 AM »
Jimmy,

As long as you are wearing a condom and wearing it correctly, you do not have to worry about hiv infection. Make sure you read through the condom and lube links in my signature line.

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2006, 08:21:19 AM »
so having herpes is irrelevant is there is no sore?
also as regards the lube I was worried it may act like a syringe and keep hiv in an air free environment

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2006, 08:42:09 AM »
Jimmy,

The lube woulndn't be the right temperature, pH, or moisture level to keep hiv intact and able to infect. Hiv needs exacting conditions in order to remain viable. Lube does not fit the criteria.

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 08:53:44 AM »
Finally is hiv testing in both instances outlined necessary

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2006, 09:13:23 AM »
no testing needed for the particular incidents...


However, Knowing your status is the single biggest tool you can have in your HIV toolbox. One doesnt have to have a fear of exposure to go test. 40+ million worldwide infected,90% dont even KNOW they are....

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2006, 09:14:52 AM »
Thankyou can you confirm I do not need to test for these particular incidents Ann

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2006, 09:26:58 AM »
You absolutely do not need an HIV test in relation to the activities you have mentioned.

In general if you are sexually active it is a good idea to regularly have a full STD panel done. That means at least once a year and every six months is even better if you're very active.

But as far as this recent incident is concerned you don't have anything to be concerned about in terms of HIV nor any need to test.

Clear?
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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2006, 09:38:52 AM »
Yes its just that in my case I caught herpes years ago in an area on my shaft not normally covered by condoms.But in the latest incident I did not see any sore, tho some of her secretions may have got on the area where there had been one in the past.Would any of this make any difference

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2006, 09:46:07 AM »
Jimmy,

As you asked me specifically, I'll answer and it's the same answer you have already had from aids2hiv and Andy; you do NOT need to test over this incident.

If you're sexually active and having intercourse, you should have sexual health care check ups regularly, even if you are consistently using condoms. This is because some of the other STIs are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv. Regular check-ups are what responsible adults do - it's part of looking after your health.

Ann

PS - you replied again while I was typing... You do not need to worry about herpes when there is no lesion present. When you do have a lesion present, if it is in an area where the condom does not cover, you should abstain from sex until it is healed. This is not so much for your benefit as it is for the benefit of your partner. It is your responsibility to ensure your herpes infection stops with you. Don't risk spreading your herpes to your partners. If the condom doesn't cover it, don't have sex until it's cleared up. OK?

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2006, 09:49:48 AM »
Ok got it but if there was no visible lesion no worry correct?
What other stis can I catch even though I use condoms

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2006, 09:53:42 AM »
Jimmy,

No lesion = no worries.

Lesion = no sex if the condom doesn't cover.

For information on other STIs, check out the inSPOT website. One word of caution - While the inSPOT website has excellent information on the other STIs, their hiv information sucks. Don't bother with it, stick with AIDSmeds for your hiv information. Here we go by the most current and up-to-date fact surrounding all aspects of hiv - while many other websites do not. (and don't ask me why because I haven't a clue)

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2006, 09:59:28 AM »
Thanks

So if you do have a lesion is there a risk from hiv from oral sex (ie sore on lip )or protected sex (sore on penis not covered by condom)

By the way was my KY tube syringe example crazy!

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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2006, 10:13:47 AM »
Jimmy,

Getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection no matter what. Saliva is not infectious. However, you shouldn't allow anyone to suck you when you have a herpes lesion present - because you will pass herpes on to them.

Giving oral sex with a herpes lesion on your lip? You shouldn't be doing that either for the same reason - you'll give the person herpes. Considering this, you don't need to worry about hiv infection this way. Understand? If you have an active herpes lesion you should NOT be letting it come into contact with another person. EVER. If you follow this simple rule, you won't have to worry AT ALL about a herpes lesion being a route for hiv transmission.

Your KY question wasn't crazy - you just didn't know much about hiv transmission before you came here and so the question was perfectly reasonable. However, if you keep asking the same question again and again.... well, that's not so reasonable.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2006, 10:30:28 AM »
Ok understood the only one unanswered was the lesion not covered by condom at base of penis would this be a risk for receiving hiv or would the same apply as per cold sore on lip and oral

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2006, 10:39:03 AM »
Jimmy,

No, it wouldn't be a risk. However, I'm going to say it again... If you have an active herpes present that is not covered by a condom... DO NOT HAVE INTERCOURSE! Herpes, unlike hiv, is very EASY to transmit. Don't go spreading your herpes around.

You said you did not have a herpes lesion present during the incident you are worrying about. You did not have a risk and would not have even if there was one there. If the herpes lesion was on the tip of your penis and you had unprotected intercourse, then you might be in trouble. But you didn't. You used a condom and had no lesion. NO RISK.

And as I said, as you will not, after coming here and learning, ever let an active herpes lesion touch another person, you will never have any worries about the lesion being a transmission route. OK? I hope you understand.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Lubricant question
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2006, 10:54:18 AM »
Ok Ann

Im not had an outbreak in 5 yrs but if I noticed one of course I would abstain.

Regards and thanks for your help

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Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2006, 07:05:03 AM »
A few days ago I had what I thought was protective sex with a girl.Afterwards I disposed of condom which I believed to be intact.I then asked the girl if condom had broke and she said she didnt know and I dont think it had but now Im starting to think maybe it did the more I think of it.Is this irrational anxiety or may I have a genuine concern

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2006, 07:11:16 AM »
Jimmy,

When a condom breaks it isn't a subtle event.  It's kind of like popping a balloon..... it shreds.  If your condom had broken, you would have known it.

So, no worries!

Morgan  :)
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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2006, 07:13:17 AM »
Thanks Ive aslo read about small tears that may go unnoticed,do these ever occur?

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2006, 08:17:19 AM »
Jimmy,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2006, 08:21:49 AM »
Ok thanks,so whats the deal with microscopic tears in condoms that Ive read about?

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2006, 08:43:42 AM »
I'm sorry you can look for microscopic tears all you want. You aren't going to find them. Breakage of a condom is not subtle. You would know for a fact that you had a breakage without questioning.

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2006, 10:23:51 AM »
so microscopic tears that you read of on some sites dont happen its just a case of  all out breakage

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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2006, 10:40:19 AM »
Can I ask why you are continuing to ask questions when you haven't had a risk? You were given your assessment and that was, "No Risk". If you want to gain knowledge of HIV transmission please read the "Welcome" thread.

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2006, 11:42:00 AM »
Regarding the incident where the girl inserted what I believe to be lube in my anus before fingering,I did not check the substance so could it have been in anyway contaminated if she  had wanted to infect me,has there been any incidents like this?

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2006, 11:47:16 AM »
No it couldn't be contaminated. Read the Welcome thread and read the part about transmission.

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2006, 12:06:41 PM »
Jimmy,


Just to let you know I had a broken condom with a SW and it sounded exactly like the experts said, "like a balloon popping."  Also you would feel skin contact (this was an affirmation that my condom was definately broken) or a surge of excitement...


 

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2006, 12:23:37 PM »
Now you got me thinkin ,I had a surge of excitement!

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2006, 12:49:54 PM »
Is that surge irrelevant,wouldnt it obviously shred

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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2006, 01:00:05 PM »
Jimmy,

Nevermind the surge of excitement (some call it an orgasm). The important thing is that you would have known if your condom broke.

OK?

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2006, 01:03:34 PM »
Ok thanks

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2006, 11:32:35 AM »
Going back to my lube incident,could it be possible that it wasnt lube but some infected substance

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2006, 11:55:04 AM »
No....Jimmy you really need the help of a mental health professional. You are beyond the help that we can give you on this forum.

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2006, 11:57:39 AM »
So Im thinking of improbable situations?

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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2006, 12:01:07 PM »
You have to ask yourself that? It's more than improbable.

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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2006, 12:03:06 PM »
Impossible then,I get your drift.I will try and calm down

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2006, 12:23:10 PM »
Finally and I mean finally this time promise.Nothing Ive said wwarrants testing?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2006, 12:45:53 PM by jimmy5447 »

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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2006, 01:21:22 PM »
Jimmy,

Absolutely, positively, NOTHING you have written about warrants testing.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will have nothing to worry about where hiv is concerned.

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« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2006, 06:16:40 AM »
Thankyou Ann

One thing I didnt cover was Ive also recently receievd a handjob that left my penis a bit chaffed and dierctly after received a blowjob where the other person flicked there tongue round the head of my penis and actually into the tip (urethra?) of my penis with the tip of there tongue .Is there any HIV associated risks with these practises

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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2006, 06:52:31 AM »
Jimmy,

There is no hiv risk associated with getting a blowjob no matter what sort of spin you can think of to put on it. Saliva is not infectious.

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2006, 03:26:02 PM »
Would your view that I had no hiv risk for the activities outlined  still be the same even if if the other person was transgender

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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2006, 03:33:38 PM »
Jimmy, PEOPLE are not risky. ACTIVITIES are. It does not matter whether your sexual partner was a male, a female, or any combination of ther above. You had NO risk for HIV.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2006, 03:33:12 AM »
Had a blowjob last night ,woke up and parts of the head are purple where she sucked so hard it hurt ,like a lovebite/hickey.Is there any HIV risk associated with this as the blood is drawn to the head of penis

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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2006, 04:18:36 AM »
No Jimmy, there is no risk of HIV as a result of your knob being sucked purple. Please read the Welcome Thread to learn more about how HIV is and is not transmitted.

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Re: Genuine fear or nuts?
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2006, 10:11:22 AM »
U see never had it before where theres like blood like spots on tip of penis where it was sucked so hard and I didnt know her oral health.Does this put a new slant on HIV risk from getting a blowjob

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« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2006, 10:17:13 AM »
Nope, not even if she bit it and brought blood.

 


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