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Offline pozhealthy

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YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« on: October 26, 2008, 11:40:35 PM »
Would you allow it? I work in healthcare and we have copies of the magazine in the hosptial. POZ magazine interviewed me at length for a story regarding my large student loan debt after being forced to leave dental school and how this has effected my life since 1991. They were VERY interested until the very end when they wanted to set up a time to photograph me for the magazine.  I told them I was very uncomfortable with this and that it should not matter that my face be a part of the story. After that is was like a cold shoulder. Phone calls and emails unanswered.
I finally emailed Regan Hofman the editor who explained to me "we do not do long  feature stories about people whose faces we can't show..."
What difference does it make. I am wonder what would you do?
i chose not to show mine and lost the story
so,i no longer read poz magazine, i am boycotting it and urge you to do the same.
thanks

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 11:50:54 PM »
Would you allow it? I work in healthcare and we have copies of the magazine in the hosptial. POZ magazine interviewed me at length for a story regarding my large student loan debt after being forced to leave dental school and how this has effected my life since 1991. They were VERY interested until the very end when they wanted to set up a time to photograph me for the magazine.  I told them I was very uncomfortable with this and that it should not matter that my face be a part of the story. After that is was like a cold shoulder. Phone calls and emails unanswered.
I finally emailed Regan Hofman the editor who explained to me "we do not do long  feature stories about people whose faces we can't show..."
What difference does it make. I am wonder what would you do?
i chose not to show mine and lost the story
so,i no longer read poz magazine, i am boycotting it and urge you to do the same.
thanks

Kind of hard not to put a FACE on a story dont cha think? here's my question to you? what do you have to hide? it must be something?................just sayin?  ???

I'd do it in a heart beat if I was ask too, I have nothing to hide, about who I'am and that I had AIDS for the last 18 to 20 yrs.  HELL YEAH, I would do it  ;D BRING IT ON  Poz Mag, I'm ready & willing.............
« Last Edit: October 26, 2008, 11:56:05 PM by denb45 »
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 11:56:23 PM »

I'd do it in a heart beat if I was ask too, I have nothing to hide, about who I'am and that I had AIDS for the last 18 to 20 yrs.  HELL YEAH, I would do it  ;D BRING IT ON  Poz Mag, I'm ready & willing

Tell them you have to consult your agent. Don't just GIVE it away! ;D

Offline xyahka

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 12:09:11 AM »
Why would a magazine post an article about someone who was affected because of being hiv poz without a face? How could people realise this is real and not an invented story?.

Plus, why would someone like to tell his/her story to Poz Mag without showing his face??? I mean if your goal was to break stigma... you have to show your face. After all many people talk about not feeling ashamed of who they are... and yet do not follow that with actions.

There are several levels of activism... some of them don't require your face... but Poz is respected for showing real life experiences of those living with a disease and not being ashamed of it. Part of the fight is to show your face to make others understand we are guy next door type. Perhaps this does not suit you, then i don't see a reason why you should be on the cover of Poz.

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13/03/07 1er diagnóstico /Peso: 79kg
19/04/07 CD4: 494 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 80kg
19/07/07 CD4: 659 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79.5kg
06/03/08 CD4: 573 (después de meses muy deprimido) /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79kg
17/09/08 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 84Kg
06/02/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 85Kg /HCV: Neg /HBV: Neg.
07/03/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg / Gym 3días/semana y Natación 2días/semana.
12/05/09 CD4: 470 /Cviral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg.
08/07/09 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 77Kg.
09/12/09 CD4: 510 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg. No medicinas aún
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15/05/10 CD4: 320 /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
01/02/11 CD4: 291 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
05/05/11 CD4: 366 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
27/07/11 CD4: 255 /CViral: 138000 /Peso: 78kg.

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Offline pozhealthy

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 12:22:24 AM »
Since I work in healthcare and had a very bad experience at the last place I work where some people saw pictures of me at an HIV event it had left me wary of showing my face again. Since I am working on the front line I felt it best to remain anonymous. I would have let them show me from the back.  I mean you read about people being spat on and getting fired for disclosing their status, so i decided to not show my face. If any magazine should understand this I thought it would have been POZ.
So i am a bit surprised by some of the reactions. Of the ones who would put there face on .....are you working? Do you work in a hospital that has and Aid Outreach Office and programs?
For me I felt it could jeopardize my job. So I chose not to. The should have made this point clear to me before we did the interview.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 12:59:09 AM »
Sorry you and POZ wasted your time. Hope things turn out better for you int he future.
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Offline SteveA

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 01:07:45 AM »
I can't believe the replies you're getting not just from the magazine but from people here as well. I don't see why your face is needed to tell the story. It's POZ News for goodness sake! I also agree that they should be aware of the need for some anonymity where a job in the health care field is concerned! I'm sorry to hear this, but I'm honestly not at all surprised.

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 01:23:39 AM »
I have to agree with Juan Carlos. POZ's thing is showing people who are very open about their status. I don't think there is anything wrong with not wanting to have your face on the cover of a magazine. There are numerous other publications and ways you can tell your story if that is what you want to do.

I work in healthcare. Would I be on the cover of POZ? No. Not because of my job, because I really don't think it would be an issue. I wouldn't want to do it because it would involve "outing" my partner and he's not ready. It may not make sense to people but I feel "we" have HIV, it is not just about me.

If it was just me I would only be on a magazine cover, any magazine cover, if I had something important to say... which I don't.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 01:32:57 AM »
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I can't believe the replies you're getting not just from the magazine but from people here as well.

Sorry, SteveA, but the whole point of POZ is disclosure. Hence Regan's face, Peter's, Tim's, and even mine.

As GSO said, there are plenty of places for people who wish to remain private about their status. POZ is not one of them. I Urge you to research the magazine and the site before expressing your outrage.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline xyahka

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 02:03:27 AM »
I think the point is... Poz has its style of fighting stigma, if it does not suit you... then Poz is not the best option for the activism you want to do. I'm sure there will be some other options out there.

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Since I work in healthcare and had a very bad experience at the last place I work where some people saw pictures of me at an HIV event it had left me wary of showing my face again. Since I am working on the front line I felt it best to remain anonymous. (...) Of the ones who would put there face on .....are you working? Do you work in a hospital that has and Aid Outreach Office and programs?

I work as Marketing manager in a clinic of a well known Dr here. I am dealing with clients and media all the time... and remember i live in Latin America, where stigma is really serious thing. Still i have a blog with my face. Do i get afraid sometimes? yes... like a week ago when "someone i recently knew" told me he found my blog using google. Yet, it was my decission to blog and talk about this after a month of my diagnosis. They (poz mag) requested i had to have a face picture if i wanted to blog. I hesitated but did it.
Poz Mag has its standards, and you have yours... they didn't match. Nothing else to do.

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They should have made this point clear to me before we did the interview.

I don't see why Poz should have mentioned it, they are a magazine that writes about real life experiences of people fighting the stigma of living with aids... for them to talk to people who are not affraid of showing their faces is normal. As you wanted to say something... perhaps they though you were part of that group.

Juan Carlos
13/03/07 1er diagnóstico /Peso: 79kg
19/04/07 CD4: 494 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 80kg
19/07/07 CD4: 659 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79.5kg
06/03/08 CD4: 573 (después de meses muy deprimido) /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79kg
17/09/08 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 84Kg
06/02/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 85Kg /HCV: Neg /HBV: Neg.
07/03/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg / Gym 3días/semana y Natación 2días/semana.
12/05/09 CD4: 470 /Cviral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg.
08/07/09 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 77Kg.
09/12/09 CD4: 510 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg. No medicinas aún
10/01/10 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
15/05/10 CD4: 320 /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
01/02/11 CD4: 291 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
05/05/11 CD4: 366 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
27/07/11 CD4: 255 /CViral: 138000 /Peso: 78kg.

Disfrutando y aceptando una nueva vida...

Offline ademas

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 02:36:25 AM »
I think I'm with the majority here (that perhaps you should consider another avenue to direct your activism).

The cover of POZ--or even an article in POZ--wouldn't be my cup of tea, either. 

I'm out as a gay, POZ man with all of my family, all of my friends, and anyone else I choose, but I'm still a very private person.  I don't think a choice to maintain a level of privacy in your life is necessarily an indicator that you feel you have "something to hide".

I've volunteered with ASO's, food banks, special events, and many other AIDS-related causes, and that's a good fit for me.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 03:22:25 AM »
Would you allow it?

I would without hesitation, if I was asked.

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I finally emailed Regan Hofman the editor who explained to me "we do not do long  feature stories about people whose faces we can't show..."
What difference does it make. I am wonder what would you do?
i chose not to show mine and lost the story
so,i no longer read poz magazine, i am boycotting it and urge you to do the same.
thanks

It is certainly your choice not to show your picture, and Poz magazine's prerogative not to print your story without it.

If you have some concerns about your privacy, perhaps it is better for you not to have the story run at all. Even if Poz magazine ran the story without your picture, what about your name ? Would you ask them print a fake one too ? Names are much easier to search for than pictures these days. The story will remain out there long after your hospital discards the copy of Poz magazine with your story. Once you go public about something, you cannot undo it. It sounds like perhaps you are not quite ready to do it yet.

I was in the media last month in a story related to my status. The newspaper that ran the story did not ask for a picture. But they did ask for my name, and they printed it. When a TV crew showed up at my house the next day uninvited after they read the paper, I was happy to oblige them and give them an interview, which went on the air 5 hours later. I don't regret it for one second. Everybody I know who has seen it had a positive reaction, including many people who didn't know my status previously like my neighbors. Even though I jumped with both feet, I did have a little bit of apprehension.

Whatever your disagreement with the editor of Poz magazine, I don't see the rationale for boycotting the magazine.

PS : I realize I may not exactly fit the "long-term" qualification yet. My 2 year poz anniversary is just coming up. I would not have responded here were it not for the media exposure subject.

Offline carousel

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 06:25:01 AM »
I can totally sympathise with you not wanting to show your face in a magazine.  I would not do the same, although most people in my life know, there are important people who I haven't told (a few friends and my parents).

At the same time, I think Poz are totally within their rights to not go ahead with the article with no image.  If one of the key issues for many of us is stigma, I think it's important that magazines such as Poz, do not feed into that by presenting anonymous articles, where other HIV people do not get a chance to engage with stories of people living with this virus.  And by putting images, I think most will engage more closely with these stories.

Offline Dachshund

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 06:52:59 AM »
PS : I realize I may not exactly fit the "long-term" qualification yet. My 2 year poz anniversary is just coming up. I would not have responded here were it not for the media exposure subject.

And yet you post here anyway. Long-Term Survivors was not created subject specific for you to post in on a whim. If you feel the need to post on this particular topic, start your own thread in Living With.


edited to add:

And please, no need for a response.
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Offline SteveA

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 07:42:31 AM »
Sorry, SteveA, but the whole point of POZ is disclosure. Hence Regan's face, Peter's, Tim's, and even mine.

As GSO said, there are plenty of places for people who wish to remain private about their status. POZ is not one of them. I Urge you to research the magazine and the site before expressing your outrage.

Sorry to poop on you parade but straight from their about POZ statement here on this site:

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Working with photographers, writers, designers and doctors, our team chronicles the HIV epidemic, both in the States and overseas. We publish POZ magazine ten times a year, POZ.com, Real Health magazine, Combocards, and a variety of other health care resources. POZ is published by Smart + Strong, a division of CDM Publishing, LLC.

Nowhere does it say full photographic disclosure is a requirement for chronicling the epidemic. As a news source isn't it the story that's important? Journalistically speaking, I think his story is an important one to tell with or without pictures. It's not like he asked that his name be withheld. I also think that the focus of the story should be on what's being done to him not how well he photographs.

What you all seem to be ignoring is his statement to the fact that POZ Magazine holds a prominent place in his working environment where coworkers and clients alike are all privy to it's cover. How anyone can not see that forcing him to put his face on the cover just to have his story told is disrespectful to his privacy is beyond me.

As far as your assumption that I'm outraged goes, I'm not. Nor, as I said, am I surprised by their actions.
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Offline Dachshund

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2008, 08:01:29 AM »
Nowhere does it say full photographic disclosure is a requirement for chronicling the epidemic.

I would have thought reading the bit about 'working with photographers' might haven given it away. You may not be satisfied with the answer, but I'm sure if you contacted POZ they would be willing to give you the reason (though they don't have to) for their policy. Bottom line, like it or not, they have the editorial control to make decisions as they see fit. Oh, and you might want to try some Imodium or avoid parades altogether.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2008, 08:17:14 AM »
I don't see the point to keep on complaining, I agree with many others who have pointed Poz has the right to decide what to print or not, and wether a picture is must or not. They think it does, period. I actually agree with them.

What you all seem to be ignoring is his statement to the fact that POZ Magazine holds a prominent place in his working environment where coworkers and clients alike are all privy to it's cover. How anyone can not see that forcing him to put his face on the cover just to have his story told is disrespectful to his privacy is beyond me.

First, none did force him to put his picture, and the proof is that he didn't.
Second, if he is so interested in his privacy, why should he be doing an article with his full name? Once you accept to appear in media with your personal details listed there is not violation to your own privacy. The picture thing is just matter of editorial rules.

I am not also a LTS, haven't reached my 2 years as Poz, yet i feel confortable writing here because:

Welcome to the Long-Term Survivors Forum!
[http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11166.msg139452#msg139452 ]
At the same time we hope that those who are newer to living with HIV will be able to benefit from the knowledge and experience that will be shared here. We are not excluding anyone from participating here, but we do ask that you be mindful of the special needs for which this particular Forum has been established..

and i don't think too many years are needed to answer this topic which interests all of us.

Juan Carlos
13/03/07 1er diagnóstico /Peso: 79kg
19/04/07 CD4: 494 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 80kg
19/07/07 CD4: 659 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79.5kg
06/03/08 CD4: 573 (después de meses muy deprimido) /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79kg
17/09/08 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 84Kg
06/02/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 85Kg /HCV: Neg /HBV: Neg.
07/03/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg / Gym 3días/semana y Natación 2días/semana.
12/05/09 CD4: 470 /Cviral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg.
08/07/09 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 77Kg.
09/12/09 CD4: 510 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg. No medicinas aún
10/01/10 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
15/05/10 CD4: 320 /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
01/02/11 CD4: 291 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
05/05/11 CD4: 366 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
27/07/11 CD4: 255 /CViral: 138000 /Peso: 78kg.

Disfrutando y aceptando una nueva vida...

Offline Dachshund

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 09:02:10 AM »
I don't see the point to keep on complaining, I agree with many others who have pointed Poz has the right to decide what to print or not, and wether a picture is must or not. They think it does, period. I actually agree with them.

First, none did force him to put his picture, and the proof is that he didn't.
Second, if he is so interested in his privacy, why should he be doing an article with his full name? Once you accept to appear in media with your personal details listed there is not violation to your own privacy. The picture thing is just matter of editorial rules.

I am not also a LTS, haven't reached my 2 years as Poz, yet i feel confortable writing here because:

Welcome to the Long-Term Survivors Forum!
[http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11166.msg139452#msg139452 ]
At the same time we hope that those who are newer to living with HIV will be able to benefit from the knowledge and experience that will be shared here. We are not excluding anyone from participating here, but we do ask that you be mindful of the special needs for which this particular Forum has been established..

and i don't think too many years are needed to answer this topic which interests all of us.

Juan Carlos

Well then we might as well change the title of the forum to Long-Term survivors, or anyone else who wants to post here. I'm glad to see most people are respectful of what it means to be a Long-Term survivor, but I stand by what I said. If the topic is so important to you, start your own thread in Living With. You must feel a twinge of guilt, if you feel it necessary to explain yourself. 

Please do not respond.

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2008, 09:15:41 AM »
Unless this space is given the same respect as the Women's Forum, it's almost meaningless.
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 09:31:55 AM »
Unless this space is given the same respect as the Women's Forum, it's almost meaningless.
Amen.

Honey, be thankful you have a face they would WANT to show.   However, I certainly understand your reasons and your reluctance to be photographed.   As JK said, just move on, and put it behind you.

The fact that it WON'T make POZ shouldn't diminish your story at all.   Everyone here has an HIV life story, or life 'history'......and we certainly won't all appear in POZ.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2008, 10:24:44 AM »
I do think it is weird that they have some blanket rule that you have to be able to show your face as a criteria for a story. I think they are limiting their pool, but alas there are so many rules I never understand so why try now!

I wouldn't let it get you all upset. You'll find another venue to share your story if you feel strongly about it.

Good luck!
Mike :)
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 10:27:00 AM »
so,i no longer read poz magazine, i am boycotting it and urge you to do the same.
thanks


  I respect your decision to boycott the magazine, but I wonder why you would go so far as asking others to do the same.  Your privacy is yours, not ours.

  "we do not do long  feature stories about people whose faces we can't show..."

   Judging from Reagan's reply to you I feel I can safely assume this was going to be a featured article.  What good is a featured article without a face?  

   I respect your reasons though as far as why you would not want to do so...  Some people seem to think that coming out about one's status is paramount for good numbers and great health, while ignoring the stress that might be brought about by doing so.

 
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2008, 10:38:00 AM »
Am I the only one seeing this top in Living With HIV?  I dont understand the Long Term Survivors conversation.

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2008, 10:40:05 AM »
Am I the only one seeing this top in Living With HIV?  I dont understand the Long Term Survivors conversation.

  It was originally posted in LTS lastnight.  I went over there I admit...  I logged out first though ;D.
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 10:47:25 AM »
My face was in POZ this summer and I would've been on the cover if they had asked, but I think once I signed the consent they could pretty much put my face where they wanted to without further conversation.

I work in a very visible position in a large hospital and the only thing different was that it gave me the opportunity to disclose to my new office mate, a young straight male. He was nothing but respectful.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2008, 11:16:12 AM »
Maybe, just maybe,
this would have given you the exposure you needed to attract someone who would help you with your problem? Since this magazine is going all around the US, there would probably be a chance that someone or some group would be able to assist you with your huge school debt.

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2008, 11:20:04 AM »
Tell them you have to consult your agent. Don't just GIVE it away! ;D

LOL   ;D
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2008, 11:29:32 AM »
I would without hesitation, if I was asked.

It is certainly your choice not to show your picture, and Poz magazine's prerogative not to print your story without it.




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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 11:34:43 AM »
pozhealthy -- so let me get this straight..  you're asking all the members of the AIDSmeds/POZ forums to boycott POZ Magazine, but continue posting here, even though they are both under the same editorial control.

You're also asking us to boycott a magazine that's primary purpose is to fight the stigma we all suffer from as people living with HIV.  The magazine attempts to do this by presenting the stories and faces of people like us, and doing so proudly, just like other glossy magazines, as an example for those that might be dealing with fear and shame.

So even though we are surrounded by many enemies that wish us dead (or would LOVE for us to keep quite and hidden from view), your main activist push in these forums is to boycott POZ Magazine.

Did I get all this right?

In my view, activism is meant to help others -- it is fighting for a greater good.  Good activism shouldn't sound like a selfish rant (I'm not calling you selfish, but I do think your post sounded a bit like that).

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 11:37:37 AM »
First seeking the publicity of agreeing to a profile article, then blocking it by refusal to show ones face; ultimately is the firtilizer of stigma.
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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2008, 11:41:39 AM »
Maybe, just maybe,
this would have given you the exposure you needed to attract someone who would help you with your problem? Since this magazine is going all around the US, there would probably be a chance that someone or some group would be able to assist you with your huge school debt.

great point.

it could help you find the help you need, and--in turn--help (or inspire) someone else in a similar situation.


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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2008, 12:19:59 PM »
I have no intention of boycotting Poz magazine over this.  I can understand why pozhealthy might not want his photo in the magazine.  But then I understand why Poz decided not to proceed with the article.  I have always seen one of Poz's primary goals as fighting stigma, so omitting someone's photo in a feature story just doesn't further that goal. 

Sharkdiver makes a great point when he says that the article could be a great opportunity to find someone or some organization who might be able to help you out with your debt problem.  Opportunities like this don't come along every day.

As for myself, I'd have no problem putting my face in Poz magazine, if I had some relevant story to tell.

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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2008, 12:33:02 PM »
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the article could be a great opportunity to find someone or some organization who might be able to help you out with your debt problem.  Opportunities like this don't come along every day.

Sometimes dire straits require that elusive element known as bravery.

Bravery often requires sacrifice, the least of which being anonymity. POZ magazine, from what I read, tries to reward bravery, usually that which includes (but is not usually limited to) the sacrifice of anonymity to help fight the stigma associated with HIV/AIDS.

Has it failed in the past? Oh Good God yes. It has given publicity to people who make me cringe.

But I do not doubt for a moment that it's editorial heart remains in the roughly the right place.

There have been and are always grumblings about POZ selling out to pharma, to the mainstream glossy idea of what HIV looks like in the 21st century. I have been one of the grumblers on occasion. But at the end of the day, show me a better publication, a better website, a more relentless effort to dispel the stigma. I can't find one.




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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2008, 12:35:37 PM »
You may have missed out on an opportunity of a lifetime, and just remember THIS: that window of support you may have gotten outta this, may be gone forever................just something you should have considered before you decided not to put a FACE on your story ???
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2008, 04:59:55 PM »
I can't believe the replies you're getting not just from the magazine but from people here as well.

Steve, nobody is being rude.  Not showing ones face in a POZ feature story only serves to feed into stigma.  Do you REALLY want that?  It's unfortunate, but that's the reality.

Ultimately it's pozhealthy's decision, and it's one we must all live with.  Such is the nature of HIV.

ps:  I should be on the cover of POZ every month.  In fact, even my parents would appear on the cover with me... they're more "out" about my status than even I am, and I'm quite out.
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« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2008, 05:26:49 PM »


   Who exactly reads POZ magazine?  Where can one find this magazine by the way?

   Oh I know...

   POZ magazine is usually found in clinics for people dealing with the HIV virus, so how does his not wanting to possibly out himself to his coworkers add to the stigma? 

   Oh I know...

   It doesn't!!   Dealing with all his stress over his economic situation I can fully understand him not wanting to be judged by his coworkers over his health situation, which quite frankly is personal...

   Is the stigma that everyone  is referring to in our own HIV+ community?  I think not...

   I agree he shouldn't be coming here to ask us to boycott it, but then again who are we to tell him that he should plant his photo in the mag?

   Not everyone has the same size foot so don't ask a person to walk in your shoes.  I'm with SteveA on this, I am a bit surprised everyone is pouncing on this guys back.  He explained his job is next to the clinic that supplies the POZ magazine to it's patients.

   I don't know if those people on disability remember to well, but activism is generally not well received in the work place...

   Give the guy a break already...

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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2008, 06:12:59 PM »
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I agree he shouldn't be coming here to ask us to boycott it, but then again who are we to tell him that he should plant his photo in the mag?

I don't think anyone has done this. We have only pointed out that one cannot always dictate the terms of ones own notoriety.

The OP wanted his story told by a magazine which features prominent POZ people, yet did not want his face published. POZ chose not to publish the story based on that unsurprising decision. The OP then came to this site and suggested a boycott. This suggests that the OP does not wish to own his choice, but rather punish POZ for their quite obvious editorial terms.

I believe a break has been given, in that the replies have been civil, even amid disagreement. As another poster pointed out, this poster is undergoing crippling financial hardship (which, BTW, people on disability CAN identify with). This exposure might or might not have led to some avenues to alleviate that hardship. He chose discretion and anonymity over that opportunity, which is absolutely his choice to make.

We are not always brave, and not always able to place ourselves in a prominent position and risk stigma. But sometimes, those choices come at a price. Just as bravery often requires sacrifice, so does the alternative often come with it's own limitations.

I certainly hope that the OP finds a way to solve his financial problems, and becomes more comfortable with himself and his obvious struggle with activism and being upfront about his status.

BTW, the implication that those on disability do not understand workplace stigma is rather offensive. Applying for section 8 housing assistance, food stamps, SSDI, SSI and other programs remains an ongoing and recurring humiliation. No one is exempt from stigma and discrimination, from outside judgment and the threat to self worth.

There is no place safe from stigma, where HIV is concerned.

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2008, 06:20:54 PM »
Pozhealthy, I understand you and I understand the journalist of POZ. But how can your picture (published) can affect your life is the most important thing of all.
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2008, 06:33:00 PM »
There is no place safe from stigma, where HIV is concerned.

amen to that! so all we can do is break the stigma when we can, and live with it the rest of the time. ;)

i don't know the terms that POZ presented when requesting the OP's story; but perhaps it needs to be reviewed to make sure the interviewees understand that photos are also used (a name printed in an article is less revealing than a name along with a picture).
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2008, 06:41:14 PM »
I do think it is weird that they have some blanket rule that you have to be able to show your face as a criteria for a story. I think they are limiting their pool, but alas there are so many rules I never understand so why try now!

Actually I believe Reagan Hoffman got her start at POZ by writing a monthly column where she never showed her face.
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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2008, 07:24:30 PM »
Why would you boycott POZ mag its here to help people and show people living with hiv that they are not alone,And those without that were are people too. If your upset about your story not being published you shouldn't take it out on the people of POZ.You should take a better look at yourself and deal with your feelings on why you dont want people to see your face.A story is just that a story without a face to make it a reallity.

And your mear plea to the rest of us I would think falls on deaf ears as most of those on this site are greatful to have a place to share there feelings and stories with others.

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« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2008, 07:39:16 PM »
All I can say is WOW!!!!! I refuse to take sides on this issue but I can understand both point of views. My question is, isn't there some sort of middle ground that could be taken? Maybe an old picture of the OP or something? I would think what is important is the story to be told not necessarily a picture but hey that's just me. Or couldn't the story still be told w/o the pic and explain that the person did not want his pic shown. And go on to explain that stigmatism is the reason for this?

Some people have no fear of putting themselves on front street but I think the person should be respected for his opinion of not wanting to put himself out there.
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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2008, 07:49:14 PM »
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I would think what is important is the story to be told

Trust me, Queen, the story of financial hardship and fear (especially things like student loans which are nto discharged through bankruptcy) are stories we have here in abundance. I have no doubt that there are an easy twenty of us, who work and who do not, who can deliver similar stories. They resonate among the HIV infected people who have, astonishingly, survived against all odds.

I am on a forbearance myself for over a hundred thousand dollars in student loans. And in a year? I have no idea what I will do, though I am sorely tempted to follow advice philly gave in another thread, in another forum. Sad that you sometimes have to risk your life for your peace of mind.

It's scary to even contemplate that. Especially since I barely have two and a half months' time since my hospitalization for PCP. But if I am going to live for decades more, I have to think in those terms. And take risks accordingly. Damn, I wish there were a better way. I really, really do.


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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2008, 07:58:12 PM »
Pozhealthy,

I don't know what the policy is at Poz magazine. And I have only read a few of the responses.  It just seems to me, that you should have been notified, prior to the interview,  ( Not after) that a picture would be required. Why couldn't Poz have printed the article, with a notation that you had asked that no picture be displayed, to protect your anonymity? I don't understand how your story, without your picture diminishes anything. Your entitled to your anonymity, in time that may change.

It doesn't make one less brave because one doesn't display their picture. After all, look at this site. There are many members here, ( many long time posters) that have not, or will not display their pictures in avatars. and that is their right to do so. It doesn't take away from their postings, just because they are not displayed. And look at the views this site gets.

Also, I  don't believe that boycotting the magazine, serves a purpose. Personally, I haven't pick up an issue of Poz magazine in over three years, but I wouldn't boycott it.

As suggested, just try to move on, there are more important things in life.


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« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2008, 10:22:21 PM »
BTW, the implication that those on disability do not understand workplace stigma is rather offensive. Applying for section 8 housing assistance, food stamps, SSDI, SSI and other programs remains an ongoing and recurring humiliation. No one is exempt from stigma and discrimination, from outside judgment and the threat to self worth.

   Jonathan,

      After rereading my words I can definitely see what you mean.  Please accept my apology it was not meant that way.  I have been on food stamps, forced to apply for both SSDI and SSI, as well as other programs to help myself through this.  I guess my point is, trying my best not to offend anyone, is that this gentleman is not on such programs.  He is working in an environment where such personal issues are not always judged favorably by others, which of course would only add to his problems.  I just noticed that some of the people here telling the other person they would not have an issue with their face being shown in POZ were on disability...   I was attempting to make a point and I guess I failed miserably in trying to do so.  I have respect for you and the others who had to go on such programs and would never outright offend those who do.

     For those who may have been offended by my words I am sorry.

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« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2008, 10:44:07 PM »
I barely know what to say to all the replies this has generated. Supported. Alienated.Lambasted.I am not very good at writing or very eloquent. Its surprising that some of the people who criticised me the most for not allowing my picture to be shown use an avatar on here or a pic of them when they were a very young child.
This decision was mine alone to make and in the end I believe I made the correct one.  I could tell that the story was gonna be killed after I told them no photo so I also used a fake name. So blast away to all the people who did not support my decision. This experience has taught me a lot about the HIV community and validated some things  I have been feeling. So POZ magazine is not the platform to tell my story. Now I know. They have a different agenda and I cannot say they have not helped alot of people in telling other peoples stories. So thanks again to all the replies both good and bad. The struggle continues. If I find a way out of this mess I will surely post it.
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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2008, 11:19:07 PM »
You may have missed out on an opportunity of a lifetime, and just remember THIS: that window of support you may have gotten outta this, may be gone forever................just something you should have considered before you decided not to put a FACE on your story ???
fortunately I now know that I have other opportunities of a lifetime ahead. May be my window is gone at POZ magazine and maybe it never existed.  Why so negative towards me about this???

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« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2008, 11:22:31 PM »
Why would you boycott POZ mag its here to help people and show people living with hiv that they are not alone,And those without that were are people too. If your upset about your story not being published you shouldn't take it out on the people of POZ.You should take a better look at yourself and deal with your feelings on why you dont want people to see your face.A story is just that a story without a face to make it a reallity.

and i have seen plenty of faces in these types of magazines where there was not story. The last one did several pages and many pics of this up and coming actor singer in various stages of undress. But he is not poz and to be quite honest I don;t think it even mentioned he supported any groups, So here we have face but no HIV story and in my case an HIV story but no face.

And your mear plea to the rest of us I would think falls on deaf ears as most of those on this site are greatful to have a place to share there feelings and stories with others.

I'm sorry you feel the way you do but as for me I will continue to visit here everyday!

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Re: YOUR face on the cover of POZ magazine.
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2008, 11:28:35 PM »
pozhealthy -- so let me get this straight..  you're asking all the members of the AIDSmeds/POZ forums to boycott POZ Magazine, but continue posting here, even though they are both under the same editorial control.

You're also asking us to boycott a magazine that's primary purpose is to fight the stigma we all suffer from as people living with HIV.  The magazine attempts to do this by presenting the stories and faces of people like us, and doing so proudly, just like other glossy magazines, as an example for those that might be dealing with fear and shame.

So even though we are surrounded by many enemies that wish us dead (or would LOVE for us to keep quite and hidden from view), your main activist push in these forums is to boycott POZ Magazine.





Did I get all this right?

yes you certainly did get it right,. boycot poz and support others. that do a better job of telling the story. Some of the best stories i have ever read did not have one single pic. Or do some research and put a pic of a really hot guy on the cover to draw attention to my story and put a disclaimer that the pic is not me.
Lot s of things should have been handled differently regarding my story.


In my view, activism is meant to help others -- it is fighting for a greater good.  Good activism shouldn't sound like a selfish rant (I'm not calling you selfish, but I do think your post sounded a bit like that).

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« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2008, 11:31:19 PM »
Kind of hard not to put a FACE on a story dont cha think? here's my question to you? what do you have to hide? it must be something?................just sayin?  ???

I'd do it in a heart beat if I was ask too, I have nothing to hide, about who I'am and that I had AIDS for the last 18 to 20 yrs.  HELL YEAH, I would do it  ;D BRING IT ON  Poz Mag, I'm ready & willing.............
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Ok, since you have nothing to hide and are telling POZ mag to bring it on, then call them and have them bring it. I think that since you have been around for 20 years that you must be doing something right to stay alive and healthy and that you should share this secret with the rest of us. So call them and have them do a story and we will look for you on the cover. I cannot wait.

 


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