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Author Topic: I need the Facts, not the Stats.  (Read 1473 times)

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Offline WM23

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I need the Facts, not the Stats.
« on: October 09, 2008, 09:20:59 AM »
Hey Everybody.

I had a brief session at a massage parlor where I received an unprotected blowjob which lasted perhaps umm 30 seconds or less. I'm uncut, and that initially I was lying down when she started blowing me, wherein I felt that I didn't want gravity contributing anymore to an already somewhat dubious scenario unraveling before me, so I got on top of her and allowed her to continue blowing me for a a good 10-15 seconds more. That's that. Some of the regulars at the online MedHELP HIV community gave me some reassurance that this was a 0 risk activity.

So anyways. What's gotten me awfully confused is the disconnect there seems to be in terms of evidence either for the viability of HIV transmission through a blowjob, or against it. There just don't seem to be any clear cut answers out there in regards to this activity. The forum experts like Dr. Hansfield & Dr. Hook at MedHELP sure know their stuff, but they somehow don't seem all that consistent within their replies, and quite frankly that scares the shyte outta me. So I just have a few queries...

(1) So knowledgeable posters at Medhelp community tell me that a blowjob is nil risk. Then could someone please explain to me why the CDC disagrees with this notion and slaps a "1 in 20, 000" stat on it?

(2) Granted Saliva has an array of anti-viral properties at it's disposal that renders HIV unable to infect, however I gather that logically a sky rocketing viral load present in the girl sucking my dick, would rationally be cause for concern, true?

(3) I have friends who have contracted Chlamydia, Gonnorhea, Herpes, NGU all from unprotected Blowjobs apparently? Rationally why not HIV then?

(4) Sometimes experts like Dr. Handsfield state that unprotected blowjobs are "low-risk", other times he categorically implies that there isn't ANY risk. Why can't they just state it to be "NO RISK" flat out?

(5) I'm sure you guys are going to say I didnt have a risk, as I had the pleasure of scanning through a lot of the threads here. If I were to go and test in the next 3 months in regards to this Blowjob, are any of you guys willing to bet that I'd be negative?

(6) Has anyone here been in a sero-discordant relationship? I hope you guys don't mind me asking; sorry if it's too personal, I don't mean to pry, but I just wanted to see if any of guys have had negative partners with whom you've had oral sex with and yet they remain negative?

You have no idea how much this HIV kink at the back of mind is playing up, any input would be so appreciated c,") 


 



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Re: I need the Facts, not the Stats.
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 09:58:39 AM »
WM,

1. The study where the CDC gets their ludacris numbers from has been discredited. They pretty much pulled the numbers out of the air. Why the CDC continues to use this study is beyond me. (but then again, they are funded by the Bush administration)

2. Saliva is NOT infectious, no matter what the viral load.

3. Those infections tend to be localised. A person can have gonorrhea in their throat and if you stick your penis into the infected area, you just might get infected. However, hiv is an infection that is in the blood - it doesn't sit on the surface of mucus membranes like the infections you mention. Those infections are all MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv.

4. Getting a blowjob is no risk. GIVING a blowjob is a theoretical risk at best. If you want to know why "some experts" say what they say, you'll have to ask them. I'm not a mind-reader.

5. I'd bet everything I have you'll test negative over getting blown - provided you've not been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse - or needles sharing - you're not telling us about.

6. I was in a serodiscordant relationship for eight years and we had a full sex life. He's hiv negative to this day.

Perhaps it's time you took your "hiv kink" to a therapist. We cannot help you with that here.

Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first.

Ann
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Offline WM23

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Re: I need the Facts, not the Stats.
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2008, 10:49:04 AM »
Wow. Thanks Ann!

Alright, well I can guarantee you that I don't do IV drugs, never have, never will. I haven't indulged in any unprotected vaginal/anal sex whatsoever. The one person I did go bareback with, she tested negative recently post 3months + exposure.

Just a few more things I'd like to ask, and I'll be out of your hair.

(1) What's the real deal with an uncut man when it's down to oral sex? During a blowjob, rationally the presence of foreskin could slightly heighten the low risk factor here, true from a logical standpoint yea?

(2) Is there a requirement I get tested over this incident asides from my yearly checkups?

(3) Please don't get angry, and I totally understand that this site's sole directive is HIV. But since you really know your stuff when it comes to infectious diseases, may I kindly ask if you reckon 30 seconds of a bj could result in any realistic concerns of contracting other STDs?

I really think I'm better off without a therapist for now Ann, since those guys or for that matter anyone who doesn't have the slightest rundown on HIV transmission risks tends to fill my head with vapidly conservative information that scares the living daylights out of me, and whaddya know? -- I'll end up coming back here, giving you guys more of a headache than anything else. lol.  ::)

 

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Re: I need the Facts, not the Stats.
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2008, 11:27:13 AM »
WM,

1. As said before, getting a blowjob is NO risk, not low risk. Being uncut doesn't change a thing, it's still no risk.

2. Why would you test over a no-risk incident?

3. Doubtful.

One thing, however, that isn't doubful, is that yes, you will indeed get out of our hair. My suspicions have been confirmed that you are aka Stolen, and you were warned about creating a new account to get around your time out.

You are now permanently banned.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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