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Offline scaredmomma

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pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« on: October 06, 2008, 03:24:13 PM »
i am a female and i was getting fingered by a guy and then he touched the tip of his penis and got pre cum on his fingers and continued to finger me, then he put a condom on and put it in me for about ten seconds because i am scared  shitless that i have contracted hiv from this pre cum exposure. it's possible to be infected this way right?

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008, 04:29:39 PM »
No it is not possible to contract HIV from fingering.

Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 05:22:18 PM »
yeah but he got some pre cum on his fingers before he put them in me

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 06:39:40 PM »
Doesn't matter. You don't contract HIV from finger.

Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 06:54:02 PM »
you contract it from pre-cum, correct?

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 07:25:44 PM »
Not when it's exposed to the environment.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 03:42:41 AM »
scared,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body. When the virus finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

And as Rod says, fingering is not a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first.

Along with reading the Transmission Lesson linked to in our Welcome Thread, here's what you need to know to prevent hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TESTING OVER THIS INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 08:35:18 PM »
i understand the ways that hiv are transmitted, but he got a lot of pre cum on his fingers and then put them in me right after touching the tip of his penis. i am very scared.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 01:22:43 AM »
You were never at risk. Move along.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 08:52:14 AM »
There's nothing to "understand." HIV is a fragile virus and it is NOT transmitted by fingering, even with precum on the other guy's fingers. It's never happened and you aren't going to make history by becoming the first to be infected in that manner. 
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Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 04:14:28 PM »
i'm sorry to be so paranoid, but many websites have said that hiv can live outside the body for a quite a while (several hours) and still be infectious. so if the pre-semen is still wet (which it was), and was put into my vagina, then doesn't that pose and hiv risk?

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 04:36:54 PM »
What part of, "You didn't have a risk" is it that you don't understand?

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2008, 07:19:59 PM »
Scared,

Did you read reply #6?

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body. When the virus finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Please re-read your entire thread before posting more questions about this no-risk situation.

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Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2008, 11:03:58 AM »
i DID read reply #6, but I.V. Drug users get infected by sharing needles, and that blood is outside the body for more than a few seconds, probably hours sometimes! i can't help but be scared

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2008, 11:13:20 AM »
Blood in a syringe is not exposed to air.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2008, 12:01:23 PM »
scared,

In the case of IVDUs, transmission occurs when a positive person lends a negative person their needle IMMEDIATELY after use. An injecter will put the needle in a vein and pull back on the plunger until they see blood in the barrel of the syringe, to make sure they have a vein. Some of this blood will remain behind in the needle. If it is then passed directly over to another person, this infected blood will be directly injected into the blood stream.

Which is TOTALLY different to being fingered with cum. Fingering is NOT a risk. Believe me, if it were, we'd tell you. We're not here to miss possible infections, we're here to help catch them.

Fingering is NOT A RISK. Never has been, never will be. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you will not be the first.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 04:17:58 PM »
i just read that if you touch pre-seminal, seminal or vaginal secretions and then touch your own vagina, you can get hiv. so, it is possible that i could have gotten hiv from this exposure because he touched his pre cum and immediately fingered  me afterwards.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 05:05:22 PM »
You've gotten straightforward and informed replies here. You don't have to believe us about your not having been at risk.

I can absolutely assure you that if you keep scurrying around on the net and other sources, you will definitely get responses to feed your worst fears. All to no good purpose and they're wrong, but if you want to torture yourself unnecessarily that's your choice.

What I can also tell you is that we aren't going to answer every if and or but that you come up with. You were not at risk for transmission. Period.  Your feelings aren't facts. The facts of the situation as you presented them to us mean you did not have a risk.

If you keep coming back with the same worries you're going to end up getting a time out. You are worrying needlessly. Period.   
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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2008, 12:33:11 PM »
so even if (which he did) get a gob of pre cum and immediately finger me after, i'm not at risk? i don't understand how that is.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2008, 12:37:58 PM »
See if you can understand this:

Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2008, 12:40:57 PM »
i'm just asking, sorry.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2008, 06:50:02 PM »
scared,

In the case of IVDUs, transmission occurs when a positive person lends a negative person their needle IMMEDIATELY after use. An injecter will put the needle in a vein and pull back on the plunger until they see blood in the barrel of the syringe, to make sure they have a vein. Some of this blood will remain behind in the needle. If it is then passed directly over to another person, this infected blood will be directly injected into the blood stream.

Which is TOTALLY different to being fingered with cum. Fingering is NOT a risk. Believe me, if it were, we'd tell you. We're not here to miss possible infections, we're here to help catch them.

Fingering is NOT A RISK. Never has been, never will be. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you will not be the first.

Ann


Ann has answered your question. 
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Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2008, 02:31:35 PM »
so there is no need to for me to get tested over this incident since i got fingered with pre cum?

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2008, 02:47:32 PM »
Reread the replies that you have been given.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2008, 06:27:44 PM »
Scared,

Reread the replies that you have been given.

And pay particular attention to posts #6, #12, and #19.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2008, 07:30:17 PM »
i am now experiencing what could be ARS symptoms, swollen gland behind ear and muscle pains. i have never had these problems before

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2008, 07:35:42 PM »
It's not ARS, you did not have a risk.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2008, 08:30:49 PM »
I think this is a good time to remind you again about the posting guidlines, so please read this... again , and this time pay attention.


Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2008, 06:28:41 AM »
scared,

i am now experiencing what could be ARS symptoms, swollen gland behind ear and muscle pains. i have never had these problems before

NO! No, no, NOOOOO! How could it be ARS when you haven't had a risk? It's cold and flu season. Just because you've never had something happen to your body before (or maybe you just never noticed) it doesn't automatically mean hiv.

If you feel unwell, see a doctor. It's nothing to do with hiv.

If you come back and post again about this NO RISK situation, you WILL be given a time out.

This is your LAST warning.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline scaredmomma

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2008, 10:38:44 AM »
Air does not "kill" HIV, but exposure to air dries the fluid that contains the virus, and that will destroy or break up much of the virus very quickly. The CDC reports that drying HIV reduces viral amount by 90-99% within several hours.

I'm sorry for the concern but i keep hearing all of these different things so i'm not sure what to believe is correct

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2008, 10:48:23 AM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2008, 12:54:47 PM »
Air does not "kill" HIV, but exposure to air dries the fluid that contains the virus, and that will destroy or break up much of the virus very quickly. The CDC reports that drying HIV reduces viral amount by 90-99% within several hours.

I'm sorry for the concern but i keep hearing all of these different things so i'm not sure what to believe is correct

Actually, HIv is quickly rendered non-viable outside the body. Aside from the obvious fact that HIV is not technically "alive" as we understand the term, it contains a fragile protein shell with specific entry points dotting the surface. Once the temperature and pH of the environment changes, or it is exposed to hostile chemistry (such as saliva) these protein shells quickly disintegrate, rendering the virus incapable of infecting through natural means.

Can HIV infect after it is outside the body? Perhaps, but only using a test tube and specific lab equipment. HIV is simply not infectious outside the body, even in wet fluid, after a minuscule amount of time (which varies according the the type of fluid, quantity, and environment).

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Re: pre-cum question and hiv transmission
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2008, 05:20:27 PM »
Scared,

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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