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Offline Andy Velez

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Re: RE: Quick affirmation.
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2010, 08:21:13 AM »
No, what you have described does not constitute a risk. It's call frottage or rubbing. And there is a world of difference (and safety) in that from actual intercourse. The fluids from the vagina which you may have felt in the rubbing are not a risk for HIV transmission.

The vaginal fluids which can contain HIV if the woman is HIV+ are far up in the vaginal cavity in the cervical area. In this incident your penis was nowhere near there.

As Ann has said, you are worrying needlessly. Just keep using condoms everytime for vaginal/anal intercourse and you will be well protected.
Andy Velez

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Re: RE: Quick affirmation.
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2011, 01:16:48 AM »
Hello :)

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« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2011, 01:19:05 AM »
Sorry about the earlier hello -- hit the send button a little too soon -- oops.

I just wanted run by a quick question; Would you consider going down on a woman as credible risk being tested over? I've had countless encounters where I've gone down momentarily and well I just thought I'd ask if its something I should worry about in terms of transmission?.

Thanks.

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Re: RE: Quick affirmation.
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2011, 05:56:15 AM »
Dan,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

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Going down on a woman is not a risk for hiv infection.


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Offline Dannikum

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Re: RE: Quick affirmation.
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2011, 07:56:34 AM »
Thanks Ann - Are there any extenuating circumstances in which cunningilus would be a potential risk?

Theoritically wouldnt exposure to cervical fluid or perhaps being very rough whilst having a facial stub rubbing up against her privates, somehow translate to higher risks of infection?

Lets say I had bit my tongue just a few moments earlier, and then I went down on her for a quite a while? - wouldnt this require me to be tested?

thanks again!

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Re: RE: Quick affirmation.
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2011, 09:03:37 AM »
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

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« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2011, 10:39:07 AM »
Dan,

No, there are no extenuating circumstances that would be considered a risk while going down on a woman and certainly not the ones you cite. You are not going to get anywhere near a woman's cervix - unless you've got a twelve inch tongue. Even then you would not be at risk - not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Hiv transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.

The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv.

Hiv is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect. 

Which leads to the second obstacle. Hiv can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.

The third obstacle to transmission this way is having hiv present in the first place. The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.

So there you have it. Once the results of the serodiscordant studies started rolling in, what we know about hiv transmission on the cellular level was validated. The only people who were getting infected were those who had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Period. One of the three studies went on for ten years and involved hundreds of couples. That's a lot of nookie.

Don't think that we will allow you to use this forum to continually question this no risk situation. You've already had two time outs and if you get another, it will be permanent. (I re-read your entire thread, I suggest you do the same.)

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

Ann
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Re: RE: Quick affirmation.
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2014, 07:26:39 PM »
Hi Ann, Andy, and RapidRod,

Its been a while since I visited this forum, which obviously is a good thing :D lol

I'd like to ask you a question -- I had visited a CSW about a week plus ago, and received an unprotected blowjob to ejaculation in her mouth.

I am aware of the fact that insertive oral sex isn't a risk for HIV transmission, however during this session with the CSW, I was feeling the initial stages of a fever/cold coming on.

Turns out a few days later I ended up with a really nasty viral fever. My question is that arguably at the time of the blowjob, my immunity was relatively low and I could feel a slight fever even at the time. I remember I wasn't even able to get fully erect -- that's how weak I was feeling.

Arguably would a blowjob from an infected individual to somebody like me then become a risk?

Thanks  :)

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« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2014, 08:42:18 PM »
I merged your new thread into your old one where you should post no matter how long between visits or subject matter . You can visit your profile and select show own post and it will take you here .

Your in luck ... getting a blow job is not a risk even when you are sick with a cold . Its a cold dude, its not like you have leukemia and the doctors wiped out your immune system to do chemo . You did not have a risk plain and simple .   

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2014, 12:41:26 AM »
Thanks Jeff. Appreciate your feedback.

I suppose I got a little jittery because symptoms of my sickness were off & on. Doctor said it was a viral fever, and then as my bad luck had it I ended up with a secondary URTI (Upper Respiratory Tract Infection).

Swollen lymph nodes under my neck and the right side of my face, underneath my   sideburn. Fever on & off, cold sweats, body aches. Incidentally I've never had swollen lymph nodes like this -- which got me thinking that this is ARS.

I got a full STD / HIV test test done at the beginning of this year, do you reckon I need to get a HIV test done again given this specific incident? Thanks.

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« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2014, 04:28:02 AM »
Dan,

For a start, most "bugs" that go around a community are viral. Flu, the common cold, etc. All viruses. Sheesh. You do realise there are millions of different viruses out there, don't you? Again, sheesh!

I can't think of ANY circumstance where a person would become hiv positive through getting their dick sucked - other than perhaps a scene in a horror film where the hero got his dick chewed on by a person he'd just punched repeatedly in the mouth. And thank you not for making me think of that first thing in the morning.

You got your dick sucked when you were coming down with an ordinary viral illness. Get over it!

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2014, 11:24:03 PM »
Hi Guys n Gals. Firstly, thanks for providing such an awesome service :-)

I recently had an odd encounter at a massage parlor and was wondering if I needed to get tested over the following risk factors, some of which I don't know if really existed in the first place. I did my usual routine screening for HIV & STDs about 3 months ago and everything came back non-reactive.

This recent incident at the parlor has left me a tad confused and worried.

a. The masseuse had a visible vaginal gape, aka known as a pretty loose pussy. So anyways I fingered her quite rigorously in both her vagina and ass. I have a tendency of biting my nails and sometimes I have scabs around nails healing, but there are cuts nonetheless. How much of risk does this constitute?

b. I went down on her quite aggressively as well, on both her vagina & ass. Does this constitute any risk?

c. Now this is the tricky part. At one point in order for me to go down on her. She lay on her back and I sort of squatted on my knees akin to how a guy would penetrate a gal missionary style. From this pose, I sort of stooped over in order for me to whisper to her face-to-face. Now I don't recall feeling as if I might have penetrated. But logically I'm wondering if given her "loose" vagina, that I may have during this "stooping" over to talk - accidentally penetrated her without knowing?

d. I distinctly remember rubbing my penis at the entrance of her vaginal gape and across her pussy from the outside. It was pretty dark so I can't be sure if the tip (im uncircumcized) made contact with the entrance of her vaginal gap.

e. All in all, does any (especially c & d) pose a potential risk for HIV transmission? I can't at any point recall feeling as if I penetrated her but still - it was dark and she had a really "loose" pussy. Do you reckon I need to get tested over this incident?

Thanks alot everyone. Have a great day ahead. 

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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2014, 11:34:30 PM »
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

This is the third time you have been told to only post in this one thread so if you ignore it again you will be given a 28 day time out, no exceptions .

You have been around here long enough to know the risk for sexually transmitted HIV comes from unprotected anal or vaginal sex .

The bottom line is we were not there so how the heck would we know if you penetrated her or not . If you are not sure then go test at 6 weeks and again at 12 weeks to confirm the results .

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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2014, 11:51:27 PM »
Thanks Jeff.

Apologies for the repeated violation. Noted.

Understood but as a guy you would feel it once you penetrate a woman yes Jeff? If I didn't feel that - is it safe to assume it didn't happen? Or can penetration take without you feeling it, accidentally?

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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2014, 11:56:32 PM »
Thanks Jeff.

Apologies for the repeated violation. Noted.

Understood but as a guy you would feel it once you penetrate a woman yes Jeff? If I didn't feel that - is it safe to assume it didn't happen? Or can penetration take without you feeling it, accidentally?


You need to be discussing your HIV phobia with your doctors . If we discuss what ifs and imagined HIV risk it would be enabling your admitted HIV phobia .

As I advised already, if you are not sure if you penetrated a person then go test. It really is that simple .

 


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