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Offline diddy

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hiv herpes
« on: August 05, 2008, 04:49:52 PM »
whats the corelation between herpes and hiv ,do they mean you can catch herpes and hiv at the same time,likethey piggyback each other

Offline RapidRod

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 04:58:30 PM »
Not everyone that contracts hepes contracts HIV and nor does everyone that contracts HIV contracts herpes.

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 05:05:46 PM »
but do most epopel catch both tgether at the same time.......I read most people who have hiv have herpes too

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 05:07:48 PM »
NO..

Offline diddy

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 05:45:33 AM »
so does one virus ride on the other ie you can get infected by herpes and hiv together at the same time.....is that why most people who have hiv have herpes too

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 06:02:56 AM »
No, HIV does not "piggyback" on the Herpes Simplex Virus to mount an infection. They are two entirely unrelated viruses.

HSV is an extremely common virus in humans. There are two kinds, type 1 and type 2 and they both can cause genital lesions and oral lesions, depending on the site of infection. The reasons lots of HIV positive people have herpes infections is because it's common, not because of a special relationship between the two viruses.

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 11:20:10 AM »
has anyone heard of Mirates tests ?

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 11:39:19 AM »
Diddy,

MiraTes tests are not approved by the FDA. The Dutch don't like them either, as the link will show you. There are NO home hiv testing kits approved in the UK. You can go to any GUM clinic for free and confidential testing.

How about you stop beating around the bush and tell us what, exactly, leads you to believe you need to test? You could very well be worrying over nothing.

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 01:16:29 PM »
I cannot go to a clinic Im agorophobic so I thought I would try and find a reliable home test....I heard Mirates were pretty good then I saw your link....but Im thinking its better to have this test than nothing as I did have unprotected sex

Where did you see that link

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 01:51:10 PM »
Diddy,

Where did I see the link? I googled.

You're just going to have to bite the bullet and go test. As I told you, there are NO home hiv tests approved for use in the UK.

When you say "unprotected sex", unless you're talking about unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse, you didn't have a risk.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 01:55:51 PM »
yes it was unprotected vaginal sex ...I had a mirates test and was negative at 14 weeks but not sure whether to trust the result

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 01:58:18 PM »
Diddy,

Home tests that aren't approved are usually prone to false positives. If you're a male, it's unlikely that you'd be infected from a one-time unprotected vaginal encounter anyway.

At the end of the day, if you REALLY want to know your hiv status, you'll go get properly tested at a GUM clinic.

Other than that, there's nothing more we can do for you here. If you refuse to test, there's nothing more we can say to you.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2008, 02:04:54 PM »
can I be confident of my mirates HIV test result

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2008, 02:06:24 PM »
Diddy,

One more time, they aren't approved. Whether or not you trust it is entirely up to you.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2008, 02:20:18 PM »
would a test like mirates actually conatin real HIV as I may have broken the case and touched the strip with my wound

as on that link you sent me it said they maybe unsafe!
« Last Edit: August 06, 2008, 02:23:06 PM by diddy »

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 02:40:32 PM »
Diddy,

There is no hiv present in ANY hiv test.

I suggest you seek the help of a mental health care professional. If your agoraphobia is so bad that you cannot go to a clinic to test for hiv, then perhaps it's time you dealt with that.

You will not be permitted to use this forum to avoid getting the face-to-face help you need.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 05:16:19 PM »
ok check out this link....it says mirates is ok ?

http://www.nat.org.uk/document/448

Offline RapidRod

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 06:00:01 PM »
Do you know the difference between a sampling kit and a self test kit? Selftesting
for HIV is illegal in the UK.
If you would have correctly read the link you provided you would have read it.

Offline diddy

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 06:01:14 PM »
yes I did but it mentions Mirates is used in Netherlands and is approved

why is it illegal in UK ?

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 06:07:00 PM »
Contact your Health Ministry and ask if you want to know

Offline diddy

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2008, 06:15:24 PM »
why are thye illegal in US THEN

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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2008, 06:19:15 PM »
They are not FDA approved and have not went through the rigorous process of testing.  End of subject.

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2008, 06:21:48 PM »
yes but do they work

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2008, 06:41:10 PM »
Diddy,

As far as I am aware, the only FDA approved home testing kit is HomeAccess and the last time I checked, they do not sell outside the US.

According to the NAT publication the only home tests that aren't illegal are the type you have to send off for the results to be interpreted. Did you do that with your test or did you interpret it yourself?

If you sent it off, then you're hiv negative. If you interpreted yourself, then it was an illegal test and you should go to a GUM.

Home testing is generally frowned upon in the UK. Maybe things are starting to change in that regard. Personally, I don't think it's a good idea.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 06:45:31 PM »
Hi Ann mine was interpretd myself but hat report does mention Mirates and an organisaton I dont know if youve heard of called http://www.soaaids.nl/  says its reliable

Maybe I could do the saliva one on Dr Thom?

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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2008, 06:51:28 PM »
Diddy,

You're quickly heading for a time out. There's nothing new to telll you. The test you used is illegal in the UK. If you want reliable testing, you need to go to a GUM clinic.

However, it's unlikely that your test result is wrong. As I already told you, home tests are prone to false POSITIVES, not negatives, especially the ones you interpret yourself.

What you do is entirely up to you. We've given you the facts and now you have to decide.

You will not be permitted to use this forum to go on and on about this.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2008, 06:55:19 PM »
ok ann

last thing,why are they illegal,is it cos they think people should have counselling

Offline diddy

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Re: hiv herpes
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2008, 09:33:31 AM »
hello was deep kissing agorl thr other night and she had a cold sore on her lip ,could this transmit HIV

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2008, 09:39:45 AM »
diddy,

No, kissing is not a risk for hiv infection no matter what sort of spin you can think of to put on it. However, if you don't already have herpes on your lips, you probably do now. "Cold sore" is a polite way of saying herpes.

I really wish people would keep their herpes to themselves.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2008, 10:24:21 AM »
she said her prevoius boyfriend had been a drug user ,injected heroin,we had intercourse but I used a condom,any risk there,also when she had her cold sore she was also kissing my nipple which had a whole in it from a piercing years ago
« Last Edit: August 10, 2008, 10:33:46 AM by diddy »

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2008, 11:46:22 AM »
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2008, 12:09:18 PM »
what ws that for

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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2008, 12:16:30 PM »
Because you did not heed Ann's warning that she gave you previously. "You're quickly heading for a time out. There's nothing new to telll you."

Offline diddy

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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2008, 01:01:10 PM »
But I asked a new set of quesitons

"she said her prevoius boyfriend had been a drug user ,injected heroin,we had intercourse but I used a condom,any risk there,also when she had her cold sore she was also kissing my nipple which had a whole in it from a piercing years ago"

just wanted to know the HIV risk based on this

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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2008, 05:09:14 AM »
Ok went to GUM clinic to get test

The nurse took the bllod and then gave me a cotton wool swab to put on the wound,I though I saw some blood on the cotton wool maybe from the previous patient!

If this actuall happened could there blood have infected me ?

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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2008, 05:10:15 AM »
Seek professional mental help.

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2008, 05:13:48 AM »
but would the blood have dried from the previous patient...
say it had been put back on tray with blood on it from previous patient,
« Last Edit: August 11, 2008, 06:09:07 AM by diddy »

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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2008, 06:20:18 AM »
Read the "Welcome" thread which you should have before ever posting on this forum. Then go read the transmission section.

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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2008, 06:24:32 AM »
Im really sorry :(

I did take your advise and get tested from a proper test at a clinic,I dont know why I keep getting these doubts but I do,my mind just wanders

See I saw te previous guy came out and what if he had put the cotton ball after he had used it back on the tray ,which I couldve done but took it with me.Im thinking maybe the nurse couldv epicked his ball up with his blood on it to cover the wound directly after the needle had been taken out and the previous patients blood then go into my wound



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« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2008, 08:38:36 AM »
Diddy,

Clinics employ standard procedures to ensure that one patient cannot contaminate another. I have no doubt those procedures were followed in your case.

You were not at risk, you do not have HIV.

Clearly your needs are beyond what we can provide. I have referred this thread to our Moderators for review.

MtD

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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2008, 08:39:54 AM »
what if there were blood on the cotton ball from the previous patient though

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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2008, 08:48:44 AM »
Diddy,

Hiv is not transmitted via environmental surfaces, of which a cotton ball is one.

You are beyond the scope of this forum. I'm giiving you that time out I warned you about. Do not attempt to create a new account because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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