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Author Topic: China Travel Question  (Read 1180 times)

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Offline stpetecoyote

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China Travel Question
« on: August 04, 2008, 10:21:23 AM »
Greetings all...it has been a while since I have posted to the forums but wanted to ask for some advice.   My company is in the process of outsourcing to China (oh yes, don't even get me started) and as part of said outsourcing I am expected to travel there in the next couple of months in order to conduct some validations.  I had read that they were expected to remove the travel ban on HIV+ individuals based on information last November, but have later learned that the ban is still in place and will likely remain so through the Olympics and indefinitely thereafter.   Does anyone have any experience traveling to China?  I have the unnerving feeling that it is going to come down to not being able to go--hence not being able to do my job---or taking my chances and putting my pills in a different bottle and attempting to go incognito and hope I don't get turned around at the gates...that's an awfully long trip to take not to be able to at least get a dose of lead and melamine. 

Thanks
Kris
When we killed what we were to become what we are, what did we do with the bodies? We did what most people do; buried them under the floorboards and got used to the smell - Jeannette Winterson


02/05/07 CD4 264  24.0% VL ??.?
03/05/07 CD4 ???   ??.?%  VL 825  
03/22/07 CD4 355  27%    VL 1232
04/24/07 CD4 490  28%    VL 3785
07/26/07 CD4 368  23%    VL 8900
08/31/07 CD4 454  23%    VL 2200
10/29/07 CD4 474  24%    Vl  18800
Started Atripla...been VL Undetectable and CD4 around 400 Ever Since

Offline komnaes

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Re: China Travel Question
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 12:05:26 PM »
Hey Kris

Yeah, unfortunately they reinstated the ban on commutable diseases for the Olympics, though many groups seem to think that it's just an extra excuse to kick undesirable people out of the country. In the past they did require everyone to fill in a form making a declaration that you have no known commutable diseases, including HIV (and many others, even mental illness, though it's obviously not an infectious), but I still haven't seen the forms again even after the reinstatement, and I do travel to China regularly from Hong Kong (2-3 times a month). And FYI I am not on meds yet.

It's kind of difficult to advise because if I say go incognito I am advising you to break the laws - so all I can say is, many many people travel to China without making any such declarations and unless it's for a long stay work visa they don't require body check and showing of medication reports. Do take into consideration that during this period they do check bags more rigorously, but I expect that they will loosen up a bit after September, including a remote but not impossible revocation of the ban.

Best of luck, Shaun

PS - if you have more questions just send me a PM
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline aliveinla

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Re: China Travel Question
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 08:44:45 PM »
Shaun sounds like a lawyer.

Talking about outsourcing... That's my job title.  ;)
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

Offline komnaes

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Re: China Travel Question
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 10:11:03 PM »
Haha.. except for the typos Alive.. ;)

Back to stpeteoyote, I wouldn't be too worried about it. There were some decisions about traveling to the US with meds in the past - they apply here for traveling to China too.
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline stpetecoyote

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Re: China Travel Question
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 09:48:42 AM »
Thanks for the input guys...I will just be there briefly to transfer knowledge and be there to help if there are any issues...no long term trips for me...I hope!   I was curious how active they were in enforcing a ban or if it was more of one of those back-ups if they wanted you out!

Thanks again

K
When we killed what we were to become what we are, what did we do with the bodies? We did what most people do; buried them under the floorboards and got used to the smell - Jeannette Winterson


02/05/07 CD4 264  24.0% VL ??.?
03/05/07 CD4 ???   ??.?%  VL 825  
03/22/07 CD4 355  27%    VL 1232
04/24/07 CD4 490  28%    VL 3785
07/26/07 CD4 368  23%    VL 8900
08/31/07 CD4 454  23%    VL 2200
10/29/07 CD4 474  24%    Vl  18800
Started Atripla...been VL Undetectable and CD4 around 400 Ever Since

Offline komnaes

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Re: China Travel Question
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 09:50:48 AM »
Wish you the best dude. Have fun in China!  ;)
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

 


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