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Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« on: October 09, 2014, 10:11:10 PM »
Hi everyone, first time post so please let me know if i miss anything.

I am a 26 male and I had an exposure 64 days ago with a CSW female and the condom broke after approximately one minute into the act, both vaginal and anal. So I got very nervous and went to take a shower right after. She assured me that she was clean but no hard proof. I was tested in lab with blood drawn at 7 weeks (it was 3rd gen antibody test). The result was negative for 1 & 2. Subsequently, I tested with Oraquick at 8 and 9 weeks. They both turned out negative. However, I am still worried waiting for 3 more weeks for another test. I was actually a little more calm until I consulted a HIV specialist online today. She told me that those tests were not indicative at all and that I am in the MIDDLE of the window period. I can't function well with this anxiety and it's affecting my work. How likely is the result going to change from neg to pos? And how concern should i be?

Thank you for you time and knowledge.

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Re: HIV antibody test at 9 weeks and very concerned. Please help.
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2014, 10:19:27 PM »
You can relax ... You got some bad advice but I can give you the facts . A 6 week negative test rarely ever goes on to be any thing other than negative so you nine week although not conclusive is indication that you can fully expect a negative result at 3 months ...The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. Most who are infected will test positive by 6 weeks. For various reasons a small number will take longer and that is why we follow the CDC recommendation to test at 3 months for a conclusive negative result.

Its also rare for the insertive partner to go on and test positive after a condom break so you are on the right track and should expect a negative result .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI.Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence .

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Using the word clean to describe an HIV negative person is to infer that those of us that live with HIV are dirty ... so now you know .

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Re: HIV antibody test at 9 weeks and very concerned. Please help.
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2014, 11:26:23 PM »
Thank you Jeff. Sorry if the word clean comes off offensive and I did not mean to infer anything else than being negative to STIs.

Your advice helps a lot and thank you. Wish you the best in life.

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Re: HIV antibody test at 9 weeks and very concerned. Please help.
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 08:33:19 AM »
You're welcome !

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Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 06:22:24 PM »
Hi there,

Couple weeks ago I had vaginal sex with a CSW using condom. However during the session I got soft and she helped me to get erected using her hand and with the condom still on my penis. But since it didn't stay fully erected the whole time the condom was not as tight when she helped me to masturbate. After erected We finished the insertive vaginal sex.

Another concern is that afterward I found out I was bleeding due a scab fell off on my below my knee. It might have touched some vaginal secretion during but I'm not sure.

What's my risk level at this point (loose condom and fell of scab)? I'm worried and I have already got my blood drawn for a rna test still waiting result. Please share your thoughts. It would be much appreciated.

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 06:28:11 PM »
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions.  It helps us, to help you, when you keep everything in one thread.  It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

You did not have a risk as the intercourse was protected, as long as the condom remained intact, no risk at all.  A sore that has scabbed over, is not a risk for infection, no matter what may have touched it.

Joe

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2015, 09:30:59 PM »
Thanks Joe. I was bleeding during the sex because the scab fell of during the act. Am I at risk? And is RNA the right test to get given the time frame.

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2015, 09:34:47 PM »

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once hiv finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

You did not have a risk for HIV Ö not even a slight one .

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2015, 09:38:48 PM »
Thanks Jeff. Should I expect my RNA test to be negative? I'm just worried and anxious. Such reassurance is much appreciated.

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2015, 09:40:33 PM »
Thanks Jeff. Should I expect my RNA test to be negative? I'm just worried and anxious. Such reassurance is much appreciated.

If this is you're only concern you can absolutely expect a negative result .

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 10:01:50 PM »
 A main reason that keep me anxious and spent $$ for the RNA test is that i keep seeing official websites or other health sites stating that condom is not 100% and they all imply it's not 100% even when use correctly. But I do read the forums here quite often and have gotten clear message that when used correctly condoms are 100% effective against hiv infection. I understand it's extremely effective just that I can't keep but wonder why would people still say it's not 100% effective. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 10:54:27 PM »
Hi Jeff please bear with me I have one more question. Is vaginal secretion or fluid infectious? Like if it have touched the bottom of the penis shaft and gotten into the sores of pubic hair during sex, is that a risk?

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2015, 05:06:59 AM »
Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once hiv finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

You did not have a risk for HIV Ö not even a slight one .


I cant make it any clearer ... sexual fluids are not infectious for HIV once outside the body .

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2015, 12:03:02 PM »
Appreciate your patience Jeff. How about the test? Is RNA the test I should have taken given the time frame? Or should I go for a 4th generation test? What's the difference?

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2015, 12:14:39 PM »
You can read about HIV testing here ... http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/HIVtests_5029.shtml

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2015, 04:54:20 PM »
Hi Jeff I'm still worried while still pending my lab result. Could it be possible hat the condom had a small hole that I didn't see? I saw you said that once a condom is broken it's obvious but could it have a small hole and it's not obvious and the condom still maintains its shape? I'm also having this funny feeling in my muscles. Should I worry?

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2015, 05:01:34 PM »
You need to talk to your doctor and tell him or her you are having illogical thoughts . There is nothing more we can do for you .

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2015, 06:22:59 PM »
 :(How's that illogical? It was a genuine question.

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2015, 07:34:39 PM »
You did not have a risk Ö stop obsessing over a virus you do not have .

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2015, 08:54:36 AM »
Hi Jeff, is the RNA test conclusive 12 days and 19 days after possible exposure?

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2015, 10:48:35 AM »
I didn't find information on RNA test. Based on your knowledge, what's the appropriate window period for the test to be effective?

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2015, 10:56:24 AM »
You did not have a risk Ö stop obsessing over a virus you do not have .

I gave you the window periods for ALL HIV TEST, Itís as little as 3 weeks and as much as 3 months . There is nothing more we can do for so move along already .


Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 07:04:46 PM »
Hi Jeff and other admins, I want to know if I should worry and if there is a need for testing.

Two weeks ago I went to a massage parlor at 3am and passed out during the session. I woke up at the place at 8am and quickly left the place. I guess they kindly let me sleep there since I was knocked out. There was a tiny soreness on my back, it's kinda like the soreness you get after a needle had stuck in. I immediately check if there was any needle mark but could seem to locate one. The soreness went away the next day. Now I don't know if I need to see a physiatrist thinking that the people at the massage parlor had intentionally stuck needle in my back while I was asleep or is it a real worry and I need to get tested for any stds. I had a minor cold symptoms for a couple days and a little itchy on my inner thigh. Any comments will be much appreciated.

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 07:16:08 PM »
You may be suffering from an HIV phobia and we canít help you with that . Please talk to your doctor and tell them you are having irrational thoughts and fears .

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« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 07:23:27 PM »
Thanks again Jeff, I will consider. I want to know if the cold is indicative of a possible risk and should I get tested?

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Re: Please help me to assess my risk with CSW
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 07:33:48 PM »
We do not discuss symptoms so if you are sick, go see a doctor and if you think you had a risk then go test .

I am not attempting to diagnose you but your irrational fear of HIV is something we are prepared to go endless rounds with you about so do yourself a favor and talk to a doctor about it Ö I have dealt with this enough to know we canít help you .

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« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 07:39:11 PM »
Can you please tell me which part of my logic is irrational?

And will there be enough antibody to be detected during seroconversion for testing?

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« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 07:50:38 PM »
Can you please tell me which part of my logic is irrational?



The part about possible being injected while you slept .

I gave you the window periods for ALL HIV TEST, Itís as little as 3 weeks and as much as 3 months .

Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 08:03:40 PM »
Please listen to Jeff, as he has told you the truth.  You have not had any risk and you have an irrational fear of HIV and that is something that only a therapist can help you address.  You need help to overcome your irrational fears regarding HIV.

Please contact your doctor for a referral to a professional who can help you with your fears.  There is nothing more that we can do for you, other than to give you a time out, so you will seek help from someone who can help you overcome your irrational fears.

Joe

 


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