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Update - question about hiv transmission
« on: June 29, 2015, 08:48:43 PM »
so last night I had oral sex with a partner here in Japan. I only Put my mouth on his penis for 15-30 seconds and don't remember tasting any pre-cum, though I could see it on his boxers. I came in his mouth, but aside from giving shallow fellatio for 15-30 seconds I did not do anything it else. My concern is I was diagnosed as having ginjivitus and sometimes my gums bleed when brushing, and a couple times recently with other partners bleed from kissing. After we were done I asked him more about his status, and he finally confessed that he is positive but takes meds daily and has a low viral load. But because of my gums, I'm concerned. Should I pursue the pep treatment, or assume that I am safe and get tested? I found a test with a 9-11 day window period and plan to take it when I get home, and get tested about 3 times a year. Please let me know what my risk level is and if I should go get pep as it hasn't been 24 hours yet. I'm a student so I know it is very expensive. Thank you!

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Re: Oral. Found out partner positive. Should I get pep?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 08:55:52 PM »
You do not need PEP or even need to test for no risk blow jobs . It really is safe to move on .
Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI.Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Oral. Found out partner positive. Should I get pep?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 12:15:26 AM »
If I have gums that bleed is that not a high risk blowjob? What is considered to be a risky blowjob? Thank you again for your time

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Re: Oral. Found out partner positive. Should I get pep?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2015, 12:18:53 AM »
Oral sex is not a risk for infection.  HIV is a very fragile virus.  Its outer surface becomes damaged, immediately when leaving the host; where changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels, alter the HIV outer surface, rendering it unable to infect.  The mouth is another barrier, as it protects us from pathogens that we encounter daily and it contains over a dozen proteins and enzymes that alter the HIV leaving it unable to infect.

There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

Joe

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Re: Oral. Found out partner positive. Should I get pep?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2015, 11:16:48 AM »
Thank you so much for your replies.

My only concern is I have read other articles here and on this site that say there have been documented cases of hiv transmission through oral? If what you are saying is true, why is this information misrepresented? Do I really have nothing to worry about? I am understandably very afraid. I abstain from anal sex entirely and only do oral as a general rule, because I was under the impression it is safe. Is it truly proven to be no risk or are there other studies against this claim? Thank you.

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Re: Oral. Found out partner positive. Should I get pep?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 12:43:24 PM »
If we were to comment on what others say about transmission we would be at it all day, so we do not comment. You have not had a risk but you do not have to take our word for it ... although you do not need testing for this incident you can opt to do so for peace of mind. It will be negative if this is your only concern . 

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« Reply #6 on: Today at 12:51:30 AM »
Back in June I posted this:
so last night I had oral sex with a partner here in Japan. I only Put my mouth on his penis for 15-30 seconds and don't remember tasting any pre-cum, though I could see it on his boxers. I came in his mouth, but aside from giving shallow fellatio for 15-30 seconds I did not do anything it else. My concern is I was diagnosed as having ginjivitus and sometimes my gums bleed when brushing, and a couple times recently with other partners bleed from kissing. After we were done I asked him more about his status, and he finally confessed that he is positive but takes meds daily and has a low viral load. But because of my gums, I'm concerned. Should I pursue the pep treatment, or assume that I am safe and get tested? I found a test with a 9-11 day window period and plan to take it when I get home, and get tested about 3 times a year. Please let me know what my risk level is and if I should go get pep as it hasn't been 24 hours yet. I'm a student so I know it is very expensive. Thank you!

You guys told me there was no problem. I got the RNA test done 9 days after contact. It came back negative. A blood test done 23 days also came back negative. Then I noticed a wart on my testicals. It turns out that I was infected with HPV, most likely from my ex who had surgery to remove hpv warts. Due to a language barrier we didn't effectively communicate this. However, I read that the immune system is usually compromised due to HIV and the lesions show up when the immune system is compromised. Does this mean that the last blood test I had done for life insurance, a month after, might have the chance of coming up HIV positive from the oral contact I had that night? I also have a case of epididymitis but my other std results after three weeks of that contact all came back negative. Do I have anything to worry about given these resent developments? The doctor also said they can show up months after exposure so it would make sense, but my ex and I havent had unprotexted or any sex since his surgery in october of last year....it seems like a long time for them to wait to show up if it's not due to hiv...

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« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:13:33 AM »
I would also like to add that at the time, my gums bleed often, once from just sitting. So if I had this bad of a condition is it possible it could have transmitted through even light oral if there was precum?

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Re: Update - question about hiv transmission
« Reply #8 on: Today at 01:21:55 AM »
You can relax, you never had a risk.  Oral sex is not a risk for infection.  HIV is a very fragile virus.  Its outer surface becomes damaged, immediately when leaving the host; where changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels, alter the HIV outer surface, rendering it unable to infect.  The mouth is another barrier, as it protects us from pathogens that we encounter daily and it contains over a dozen proteins and enzymes that alter HIV, leaving it unable to infect.

There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.)  These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years.  The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex.  Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

You have not had a risk and you do not need to test over this incident.

Joe

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Re: Update - question about hiv transmission
« Reply #9 on: Today at 01:23:39 AM »
If HPV infected men are more likely to receive HIV, then would my laten HPV mean that I may actually have gotten HIV from the above situation? Dental issues and all. I realize that oral carries no chance for infection, but is HPV and bleeding gums with no provocation not considered high risk circumstances?

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Re: Update - question about hiv transmission
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:25:13 AM »
Read my post again, saliva has over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that alter HIV leaving it unable to infect.  Nobody ever got HIV from a blow job and you won't be the first.

Joe

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« Reply #11 on: Today at 01:33:30 AM »
Why would the HPV show up this late in the stage though? It's about 11 months after infection and all my other stds came back negative...I'm just so scared

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 01:41:36 AM »
I also saw elsewhere on this site that a mod said transmission through oral is rare, not impossible..

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 01:42:26 AM »
and those studies didn't necessarily bring hpv into the equation either?

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Re: Update - question about hiv transmission
« Reply #14 on: Today at 03:07:28 AM »
Just stop.  Oral sex is not a risk for infection and your negative results confirm that fact.  Nobody has ever gotten HIV from a blow job, period.

Joe

 


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