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Author Topic: Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus  (Read 3585 times)

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Offline milomi

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Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus
« on: June 08, 2008, 08:53:05 AM »
HI
I was reading this [link removed by moderator] topic with much of ethusism
"Increasingly, in Western hyper-clean countries, we are getting horrific multi-drug resistant bacteria that are killing otherwise healthy people in hospitals."

The problem is with doctors who over prescribed antibiotics and people who begged their doctors to give it to them. From the 60's on, people were given anitbiotics for simple virial colds, which in turn did nothing to hasten a person cold, but did setup bacteria to evolve to be antibiotic resistant. If doctors would have prescribed antibiotics correctly, these forms of germs would not have happened for 100's years. Doctors should have let people strong enough to natually fight the infection do so and reserve the antibiotic to those most likely not able to stave off themselves. Doctor just learned this few years ago, but correcting the problem is too late now. Hopefully when a new generation of antibiotics comes the past will not be repeated or we will end up with same thing, hyper resistant bugs that nothing can kill.
Guys i need your advice coz if there is substantial truth about this i will be the first in trials,is this just another [link removed by moderator] crap on the net?
advice please
« Last Edit: June 08, 2008, 05:21:01 PM by Peter Staley »

Offline thunter34

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Re: Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 01:44:41 PM »
I'm not understanding exactly what all this is.  It seems from your post that it is about anitbiotics and germs / bacteria (things like MRSA).  Yet the title is some sort of bunk about crocodile blood.

However, browsing through the link you provided it gets really interesting because it starts making statements which dance with HIV denialism - something that is frowned upon here in the very worst way.  It starts referencing many names associated with the denialist movement.  Still, it's a lot and I did not read it all.

I'm personally going to report this to the mods for their review.

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Offline thunter34

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Re: Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 01:52:28 PM »
This link of yours starts saying that AIDS comes from (among other things) iodized salt, you know that?

There is an enormous amount of material in this thread.  One poster in particular posts reems and reems of links in a gigantic post that is all but impossible to follow.  Reminds me very much of a particular poster here who shall remain nameless.
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Offline sharkdiver

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Re: Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 03:44:50 PM »
Yeah, this website is kinda "fishy".

Offline Peter Staley

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Re: Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 05:24:15 PM »
milomi -- we generally link to actual research articles in this forum, not other threads from unmoderated forums on another website.  Since we can't control the kind of info that's posted in that other thread, and some of the info already posted is quackery, I've removed the links in your post. 

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Offline risred1

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Re: Crocodile Blood kills hiv virus
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 10:51:18 PM »
Since your post also was a discussion about how bacteria is becoming resistant to antibiotics and we are running out of options, an interesting and Old development has emerged that uses bacterial phages to fight infections.

What is a Phage? Well, interestingly enough it is a virus that uses bacteria as its host and destroys the bacteria while it replicates itself.

Now Phages don't work against other Virus's, so there is no way to leverage it against HIV. But, because antibiotics are failing and those of us who are immune systems are severely affected by HIV now half to contend with drug resistant infections, phages may be a reemerging avenue to fight these drug resistant infections.

Below is a link from a NPR broadcast discussing how phages were being used prior to antibiotic development, and how that knowledge was being still being developed and utilized in the former republics of the USSR of all places. There are some products that are now emerging and approved by the FDA. So don't be surprised that in the next decade, we will have new options for fight infections by using virus's to kill them.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89380684
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