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Offline FVVS

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Need reassurance
« on: May 26, 2008, 10:11:39 AM »
To the Experts

My story:

I had protected intercourse with a pro, however I was not 100% sure that the condom
stayed intact so I desided to get tested. Also when removing the condom  my foreskin, uncircumsized, did not go fully back on so I had to touch it with my
fingers( same as used for removing the condom).
I took a rapid test at 15,5 weeks past this
in a red cross service center. The tester did not however tell me in words that it was negative,
only during the test she said that now it looks really good.
Than she showed me the stick and showed a confirmed positive stick beside my own.
On my stick there was no wisible indicator line through the whole test window except for in the "confirmation" window
but in one end of the hiv side I saw a short(couple of mm) red stripe.After this I could leave without further things being done. They would always have
to confirm a positive rapid test here with a laborotory test so I assumed she interpreted it as negative.
I think the test used was a Abbot determine 4 generation but I am not sure.
Later on this red line really started to bother me so I desided to get a lab test
Combination test Ag Ab from vain blood. This was at 19,5weeks and it was negative.

My question is can I now fully rely in the latter test and assume that the first red stripe I saw was due to my own imagination
or my own blood? And finally move on with my life as this has been going on for 6 months now?
This thing really bothers me and your opinions would be greatly appreciated
My girlfriend is pregnant and I really worrie for both her and the baby as well.btw she tested negative.

Thank you in advance

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 10:18:42 AM »
You would have known if the condom had failed. Yes the test will have one line across from the C. That is the control line that lets the tester know the test is good. You didn't have a risk in the above situation and your test proves it.

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 10:19:40 AM »
F,

You are conclusively hiv negative. You never needed to test over this specific incident anyway. A broken condom is VERY noticeable and it doesn't matter that you touched your foreskin with the same hand you removed the condom with. Hiv is not transmitted outside the human body in that way.

Keep using condoms when having intercourse outside your committed relationship and you won't have to worry about hiv. Read through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them with confidence.

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 02:22:32 PM »
Ok
Thank you both for your replies, so to sum it up whatever I saw the first time is irrelevant as the lab test was negative and I wasn`t at any real risk.
That`s probably what your telling me? Also it would be highly unlikely that the tester would have made amistake which she apparently didn`t

I guess being alone with my fears ( as this isn`t something you talk about in your everyday coffe table) and fee´ling the guilt over my onetime idiotic behavior makes my mind play games on me. I read that it is no risk in previous discussions, but went to the test for peace of mind but somehow managed to most likely overreact.

thx



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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 04:05:41 PM »
That's right. You're conclusively HIV negative. As Ann has told you, you actually never needed to test over this incident anyway.

I can tell by your latest response that you're lingering around in the fidgety area of what ifs and anxious thoughts. Take a breath and let it go. This greater anxiety often seems to happen with guys just because they've been with a pro and not a civilian. As long as you consistently use condoms for vaginal & anal intercourse, it doesn't matter whom you are with or what their HIV status is,

No problem with HIV this time so let it go.

Cheers, 

« Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 07:59:54 AM by Andy Velez »
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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 02:31:15 AM »
Ok thank`s to you all, your knowledge and advices will carry me on and help me let this matter go.
I wish you all the best.

Offline FVVS

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 07:04:14 AM »
Hello

once again I am in search of your wisdom, I know this question comes up repetedly but still it bothers me a little.
I received a blowjob in a strip joint from an African lady but to my surprise she started without a condom and that`s what gets me spooked. I asked her to put on a condom and she did and from theron everything went okay
I know where you stand regarding this but when looking at for instance dr.Bob or Avert sites they both say that the risk is not Zero and dr. Bob says he has had patient saying unprotected insertive fellatio is the only risk, also Avert says that there are a few cases of oral sex that are documented as only risk as well receptive as insertive. If you could please help me in clarifying this dilemma. PS. also the red cross hiv institution in my country says no risk.

thank you in advance.
F

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2011, 08:03:50 AM »
Again you never had a risk. You aren't going to contact HIV from oral sex.

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2011, 08:13:57 AM »
We're not here to answer what you have read on other sites including the hearsay report of someone saying they were infected through receiving oral.

All we can tell you is that in the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single confirmed case of transmission to a guy through his having received oral sex. Not one.

If you continue to indulge in searching the web I can assure you that you are going to find a host of responses to feed your worst fears and all to no good purpose. Do yourself a healthy favor and stop doing that. 
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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 08:21:58 AM »
Hello

in order for me to move on i would just need clarification on one issue. Sorry Andy for not taking your advice but i promise after I get a good scientific reply i will move on!
I found the data concerning pre chewed food and find it very strange this could happen knowing where science currently stands. I mean how is it possible if saliva inhibts the virus and also you need direct contact in order for transformation from one host to another to be possible that this would happen? I also noticed all the data was from 2008-2009 are there any updates regarding this?
I doubt there was sufficient visible amounts of blood in the food.
And last but not least if I could get your clear reassurance that I don`t even need to test over my brief unprotected blowjob(once again) i would be more that happy. As you guess this is what scared me as i wasn´t aware of transformation this way.

Best regards.

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 08:50:12 AM »
No, we're going to decline your wanting to have further conversation about your situation. We're not going to get into a debate with you.

You were not at risk for HIV through getting a blowjob. Period.

If you continue to return about your non-risk situation you are going to find yourself getting a Time Out for at least 28 days from the site.

HIV is not your problem. As often happens with guys who stray, guilt is really the anxiety-provoking issue. Cut ouf the drama and get on with your life.
 
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 09:03:04 AM »
FV,

Are you a tiny baby who needs to have your food pre-chewed? NO? Then why on earth are you thinking that study has ANYTHING to do with you?

You got your dick sucked, now get over it. Not one single person in this world has been infected through getting his dick sucked and you are certainly not going to be the first.

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Re: Need reassurance
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 02:05:15 AM »
Ok I get your message, there is absolutely no risk whatsoever no matter what "what ifs" you put into it. This is really what I wanted to hear and whenever I get anxious I return and read you replies or memorise them in my head and feel better.
No testing needed move on is what I need to repeat in my head as you guys say
Thanks alot and be well all of you who supported me!

Cheers
F

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 09:59:31 AM »
F,

Good, I'm glad you got that into your head.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection.

IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2011, 01:36:07 AM »
Hello
Here`s an Idiot who doesn`t learn but hopefully you`ll bare with me for one more time as i would like some clarification.
I once again was the idiot to seek up a professional.
We used condoms for both oral and vaginal and I clearly remember seeing the seemen in the tip of the condom after withdrawing. The condom had stayed in place althoug moved to around halfway up the shaft.
My question this time is that as I was washing up afterwards I remember having some very sticky stuff on my penis and for the love of G i can`t remember if it was just on the shaft or on the hole penis.
I also asked the opposit part why she washed and she said it was the lubrication.
My question is:1 If it was lubrication and I washed afterwards, did I place myself in any danger if i transfered it to the tip of my penis(uncircumsized)?
2 can this lubrication have moved to the inside of the condom during the act causing potential transmission?
3 Are there condoms with MUCH lubrication in it that can cause this feeling?
4 I assume i can believe that the condom stayed intact as i clearly remember seeing the seemen in the tip!
Hope you`ll bare with me one more time and have the patience to answer..
And please no moral judgement as i have a hard time enough and can`t understand my actions :-[

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2011, 02:45:37 AM »
You never had an exposure.

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2011, 08:54:05 AM »
Whatever what ifs you throw into the mix, you were not at risk. The important thing is that your penis was covered during intercourse. Unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse are the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV. So it doesn't matter what "stickiness" you felt afterwards.

I will remind you that other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV. Since  you are sexually active it's a good idea to at least annually have a full STD panel done. As far as HIV is concerned there is no cause to be worried nor any need for testing at this time.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 08:54:54 AM »
FVVS,

The only time you're going to get judgement here is if you report mistreating your sexual partner. We really don't care who you have sex with or how many people you have sex with. We only care that you are respectful of yourself and your partner and that you use condoms. It seems to me that the only one judging you here is YOU. Knock it off.

Hiv is not transmitted during the process of removing the condom. The sticky stuff was probably lube. NO RISK.

If the condom had broken, it would have been obvious. NO RISK.

You have NOT had a risk. You used a condom which is exactly what you're supposed to do.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 09:25:01 AM »
Thank you all for your wisdom once again, and Andy I am indeed taking routine checkups once a year and have not had anything, just as you always have said! Just wanted to know if this happening was of any concerne for testing!
Thanks again!

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 09:38:04 AM »
You're welcome. Now get on with your life and always keep those condoms handy to use everytime for intercourse.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2011, 01:11:09 AM »
Hello

Just a quick follow up question, after around 2,5 weeks I got a runny and stuffed nose lasting for about 3-4 days and a very mild sore throat. Should I at all be worried about this and just as a safety precaution take a test at the 6 weeks mark? Otherwise I wouldn`t worry but the timeframe just seems to fit perfect when I got the symptoms?

PS.
I also took Chlam and gono test both negative!

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2011, 04:59:41 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2011, 08:31:32 AM »
FVVS,

You can test for peace of mind if you want to, but don't be surprised by your negative results. We won't be, that's for sure.

You have NOT had a risk for hiv infection.

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2011, 08:35:56 AM »
Sorry to bother you guys, but now I got one white spot in the top of my mouth, i've understood that this also could be a symptom of ARS.. Seems the odds something went wrong with the condom is rising and I might end up testing + after all! Sorry again for sending though you thought my risk was very low. Just cant understand what else could be causing this!

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2011, 08:54:06 AM »
FVVS,

We don't think you had a "low" risk, you had NO risk. NO. RISK.

So you have a white spot in your mouth. So what? It is NOT a symptom of hiv infection, regardless of what you may have read elsewhere.

If you're worried about what's going on in your mouth, see a doctor or dentist. It's nothing to do with hiv.

Your warning from Rodney still stands. Please consider yourself warned for the last time!!!

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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