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Author Topic: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!  (Read 6409 times)

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Offline BT65

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2008, 11:27:28 PM »
edfu:

if you check my other posts, not just this one, but a different one where I say i want people to hold on and fight and not give up, you will see many people said "thank you, that is very uplifting."

Philly: HIV is in fact a virus. You are right. But I wasnt born with HIV. 

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Yes, edfu might find many things about your other posts interesting, especially if he knew your real posting history.

HIV is a virus, yes.  So is the flu, which I wasn't born with either. 
I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2008, 11:58:11 PM »
Betty:

I'm very aware of ScottJay's posting history, which is precisely why I felt the need to comment.  This is someone who, on April 16, posted:

"Keep your chin up people and be sure to love yourselves at all times, and that includes encouraging yourselves as well.  Don't blame yourselves, beat yourselves up or mourn over the past, just know that all things are possible!"

Four days later he posts:

Today I am down in the dumps. I got my bloods back. t-cells 555, vl undetectable, cd4% 20. The percentage has me bummed! and I feel like crap.

I dont know where my life is going. I am sick of being sick. If only I had the strength to achieve my dreams. Also, I just turned 40. Maybe that has something to do with it as well. I have been infected since 30, and I feel like I lost a lot of years due to being in shock for a few years.

He denies he needs professional help, or refuses to consider it, but I have never seen a better example of bipolar disorder.  I can only wish he would seek the help he needs, because the "word of God" just isn't working for him, as much as he claims it is.   
"No one will ever be free so long as there are pestilences."--Albert Camus, "The Plague"

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2008, 12:09:36 AM »
Sez Edfu:

He denies he needs professional help, or refuses to consider it, but I have never seen a better example of bipolar disorder.

Ok. Now we need to take great care. This is the internet, not a clinical setting. Diagonising/labeling someone as having a serious psychiatric condition like bipolar affective disorder is just not on. It cannot be done over the net, is grossly irresponsible and more than a bit insulting.

I'm sorry Ed, but let's get some perspective here.

MtD

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2008, 12:24:17 AM »
Matty, sorry, I was expressing a personal opinion, but how else do you explain the enormous disconnect between the two postings, just four days apart, which are completely contradictory?  I will also admit that his introduction of God and Jesus into his discussion may have prejudiced my thoughts.  I don't have much patience for that sort of discourse.  This is not an excuse, but I find it interesting that mjmel seems to have the same thoughts about this as I do.   
"No one will ever be free so long as there are pestilences."--Albert Camus, "The Plague"

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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2008, 12:52:58 AM »
Ed,

Respectfully we don't have to explain these things. You're not a psychiatrist. Mike is not a psychiatrist. This forum is not a psychiatric hospital.

More importantly, Why are we talking about Scotty like he's some object to be diagonsed? He's not. He's a person with feelings and all that other icky stuff. How would you feel if a whole load of people here started having a conversation around you which involved diagnosing you with a psychotic condition?

Pretty unhappy I'd warrant.

So what if he's introduced god and Jesus into a discussion that he started? It's his thread. These things pertain to him. If you don't like that discourse do what I've done and stay away from it. As you know I'm a notorious, fire breathing militant atheist of the first stripe, but that doesn't mean I've got any right to come into this guy's LW thread and start giving him a hard time about his religious beliefs.

MtD

Offline edfu

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2008, 01:22:18 AM »
How would you feel if a whole load of people here started having a conversation around you which involved diagnosing you with a psychotic condition?

Well, this has actually happened, and it didn't bother me much at all, especially since I admitted as much myself in my posting.

I also admitted my prejudice in this instance, but I wasn't giving him a hard time about his religious beliefs so much as I was giving him a hard time about his denial.

Be that as it may, I understand your position, and I will respectfully withdraw from further comments here and once again express my apologies.         

 

 
"No one will ever be free so long as there are pestilences."--Albert Camus, "The Plague"

"Mankind can never be free until the last brick in the last church falls on the head of the last priest."--Voltaire

Offline ScottJay

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2008, 07:24:38 AM »
Edfu:

The sad thing is that you give me a hard time at all. As I mentioned, every day is a struggle in the life of people, and in my view, especially people who are trying to do the right thing

. Jesus healed people, shared the word of god with them, and a few days later, just before his real test was to begin, he went into a garden and cried to that same god asking him to spare him from the test. I guess that makes jesus bipolar too huh? Or anyone else who has had a meltdown

See, you want to pick a fight. Instead of saying "nice to see you bounce back scotty" you move to the negative and diagnose me with awful diseases, and imply that my faith is a sham.  That's sad on your part, to see that you have a bent towards destroying someone and putting negativity out there.

Matty, thanks for you kind words. Much appreciated!


Offline Winiroo

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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2008, 12:47:50 PM »
but how else do you explain the enormous disconnect between the two postings, just four days apart, which are completely contradictory?  

I have no desire to get into a debate but the guy isn't a robot.
I may be a little less conventional than some people and I am a woman but I don't have a psychiatric disorder or chemical disorder.
I say that because I know I can totally have a happy go lucky Monday and on any other day of the same week I could be boo hoo Sally.
Its human.

enough said...




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Re: Today I was down but I am not out!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2008, 04:16:53 PM »
   Yep ...Me too Wendy  ;D

Offline ScottJay

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« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2008, 05:16:53 PM »
Thanks so much. You are kind wonderful and supportive. You have an amazing spirit. Thanks so so much for your kind words and most of all, your understanding.

 


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