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Author Topic: Pycnogenol  (Read 4076 times)

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Offline mousey

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Pycnogenol
« on: April 06, 2008, 11:13:40 AM »
Is Pycnogenol a good supplement ?
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Offline bear60

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Re: Pycnogenol
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 01:59:35 PM »
I googled "pycnogenol fraud hoax" and got a lot of denialist stuff.
in any case I have never heard of this "supplement " before and would not spend my money on it.  But hey its up to you to decide how you spend your money.
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Supplements advertised as "natural" are not necessarily safe. In fact, herbs, like other so-called natural products, can have powerful drug-like effects. Some of these effects can be especially risky for people who take other medicines or have certain medical conditions.

Fraudulent promoters often fall back on the same claims to trick consumers into buying their products. Some tip-offs that they're trying to fool you are:

Claims that the product is a "scientific breakthrough," "miraculous cure," "exclusive product," "secret ingredient," or "ancient remedy."

Claims that the product is a quick and effective cure for a wide range of ailments.

Claims that the government, medical profession and health care industry are in a conspiracy to suppress the advertised product.

http://www.quackwatch.com/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/efamol.html
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Re: Pycnogenol
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 04:58:41 PM »
Never heard of it and wouldn't spend my money on it.
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Offline Merlin

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Re: Pycnogenol
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 05:31:17 PM »
This is essentially extracts from the bark of the French maritime pine tree (commercially available as Pycnogenol). This is very expensive. They sell it at GNC stores and a box of  300 tabs can set you back $300-350. I have been taking this for some years but cannot honestly say it significantly helps me in any major way. I take a ton of other supplements as well and exercise, so I would advise you save the money and use it get a good multivit instead.

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Re: Pycnogenol
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 10:57:24 PM »
Hype.  It will give you more expensive urine, though.
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