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Author Topic: First numbers - doctors intrigued  (Read 1679 times)

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Offline darwin

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First numbers - doctors intrigued
« on: April 30, 2008, 05:25:54 PM »
Hi all,

I was diagnosed 1 week ago today.  I tested negative in January.  However, today I got my CD4/VL and my doctors are intrigued: I am at 400/2,000 and the Western shows immune response to all HIV proteins.  How is all this possible in under 2-3 months?!

They are doing a retest just to make sure.

Have you ever heard any experiences like this?
October 2007 - Chose love/stupidity over protection
23 April - Diagnosed
30 April - CD4: 364/22.1% VL: 2,198
11 July - Started Viramune/Truvada
13 August - Undetectable

Offline NLEWLAD

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2008, 06:07:49 PM »
when was your last previous test matey
Simon - Location Manchester England
Negative test 10/11/07
Tested poz 28/12/07
Confirmed WB 07/01/08
Sero-converted Late December 07

Date        CD4            %              VL

7/01/08   1273 :)      N/A       100,232
24/01/08   755 :(      42%         4,010
13/2/08     922 :)      45%       78,234
09/04/08   652 :(      38%       36,604
05/05/08   936 :)      39%       38,952
07/07/08   844 :)      34%       24,000
12/11/08   753 :(      31%       45,600
no meds yet:)

Offline chm02

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2008, 06:15:31 PM »
I tested negative in January 06, got sick in August 06, and was at 20000 VL in Sept. 06.
I guess this virus can be "dormant" in some for years, but in others, it pops right up.

-Mark

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 06:33:26 PM »
Hi all,

I was diagnosed 1 week ago today.  I tested negative in January.  However, today I got my CD4/VL and my doctors are intrigued: I am at 400/2,000 and the Western shows immune response to all HIV proteins.  How is all this possible in under 2-3 months?!

They are doing a retest just to make sure.

Have you ever heard any experiences like this?

Yes, I have witnessed it with my bf. He was always very healthy, and tested negative in May 2006 . He tested positive mid-november 2006 right after I did. His first numbers were CD4 300, 13%, and VL 4000. Pretty close to yours. You didn't list your CD4 %. My bf's <14 CD4% meant he had an AIDS diagnosis on that basis from his first HIV+ test. His CD4 then went quickly down to 240, 9%, and VL up to 30,000 by the end of january. His doctor ordered him to go on meds. Ryan White took 2 months to pay for his genotype. Then He finally started HAART in march 2007. He had one OI around the start of atripla, shingles. He switched to norvir/truvada/reyataz in december 2007 due to side effects of the sustiva in atripla. His VL has been undetectable since may 2007, but his CD4s vary greatly. One month they take a dip to 200. The next time back up to 400. He hasn't been above that level, though.

Offline md

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 04:49:01 PM »
when was your last previous test matey

*sigh* - go back and read the second sentence of his post - "I tested negative in January"

Offline newt

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 06:01:38 PM »
You have a new infection and your immune system will be all over the place to start while your body gets a grip on the virus -- your CD4 will take a hit for a few weeks, but if you follow the usual patten it will settle down (or up even...) somewhere nice for a while (is the answer).

- matt
"The object is to be a well patient, not a good patient"

Offline LatinAlexander

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2008, 01:40:57 PM »
Hi Darwin:

Add me to the curious list of weird numbers: That is, low VL, low CD4. Mine were CD4 250's VL 3400.

Weird uh?

Alex
Poz since Jul 19 2006
Initial numbers : CD4-250 VL 3500
First labs after HAART (Dec 04-2006) : CD4-432 VL-<40 (Undetectable)  cd4%=25.11%
Started HAART: Combivir+Efavirenz Aug 26 7:38 pm
Feb 08 2007 - Gradually stopping HAART cause of Myalgia. Protecting Efavirenz. Stopped Efavirenz, ahead with Combivir....
February 17 Combivir stopped.
April 3 -07 : Started ddi+3tc+efavirenz...
Gay and positive (What a lack of Identity...:) )
Looking for my Ben....

Offline darwin

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Re: First numbers - doctors intrigued
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2008, 01:57:53 AM »
That is interesting, Alexander!  You are similar to my results.  It's craziness.

After my retesting this week, both my aids doc and the primary nurse at the clinic think that I was infected in November (I had many acute infection symptoms early that month, plus an exposure risk with my boyfriend) and that I had a window period false-negative in January.

While it blows me away that I had a false-negative, I guess they don't call it the window period for nothing.

Looks like I need to update my signature...
October 2007 - Chose love/stupidity over protection
23 April - Diagnosed
30 April - CD4: 364/22.1% VL: 2,198
11 July - Started Viramune/Truvada
13 August - Undetectable

 


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