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Offline ALH300

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Numbers help......
« on: April 04, 2008, 12:34:42 PM »
I got my labs back today and kind of confused....and not sure what to think.....

cd4 432 %14.4 vl 11,830

Last labs were....

cd4 493 %22.4 vl 5900

Can my % actually change that much in 3 months? My doc ordered labs again in one month...she said it could be an error in the the percentage either for this set of labs or the previous ones.....For the record I have been feeling great no illness what so ever except for a cold in November.

Any have any input or theories?
Poz 7-27-07 
First Labs:
07/13/2007 "Friday the 13th" What was I thinking???
314 CD4 17% 9410 VL
10/03/2007
479 CD4 18% 8220 VL
01/03/2008
493 CD4 22.5 % 5900 VL
03/18/2008
432 CD4 14.4 % 11,830 VL
05/06/2008
480 CD4 15.0% 2630 VL
07/16/2008
361 CD4 16.4% 12,830 VL
10/31/2008
362 CD4 15.5% 2500 VL
Started Atripla 11-17-2008
1/16/2009
395 CD4 20.5% undect. VL
5/05/2009
426 CD4 20.3% undect. VL
9/15/2009
422 CD4 22.2% undect. VL

Offline newt

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Re: Numbers help......
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 07:07:25 PM »
Well I wouldn't sweat about it too much.

Over time -- the important thing -- your picture looks stable. The viral load differenc between the last two tests is barely significant. Your CD4 count and % overall is more or less even (and good too).

- matt
"The object is to be a well patient, not a good patient"

Offline ALH300

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Re: Numbers help......
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2008, 04:01:00 PM »
Got my results back and still my doc and I are a little concerned over my cd4%.....

cd4 480 cd4% 15  vl 2360.

So now I get to kick back and wait for another 3 months to see what my % does.

Wondering if anyone has had to start meds with such a low % but a not so bad cd4 count?
Poz 7-27-07 
First Labs:
07/13/2007 "Friday the 13th" What was I thinking???
314 CD4 17% 9410 VL
10/03/2007
479 CD4 18% 8220 VL
01/03/2008
493 CD4 22.5 % 5900 VL
03/18/2008
432 CD4 14.4 % 11,830 VL
05/06/2008
480 CD4 15.0% 2630 VL
07/16/2008
361 CD4 16.4% 12,830 VL
10/31/2008
362 CD4 15.5% 2500 VL
Started Atripla 11-17-2008
1/16/2009
395 CD4 20.5% undect. VL
5/05/2009
426 CD4 20.3% undect. VL
9/15/2009
422 CD4 22.2% undect. VL

Offline Blixer

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Re: Numbers help......
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 06:06:53 PM »
Hello ALH300,

I started Meds shortly after my diagnosis with a CD4 absolute of 540 and a % of 12%.  My CD8 count was very high and that was what was depressing the %.  My doctor recommended starting meds even with a high absolute count because he said my high CD8 indicated that my immune system was hyperactivated.  I was undetectable within 2 months and my % has been in the 27 to 30% range now for quite a while.
David
Diagnosed 1/9/06
8/27/2007 CD4 598, 29%, VL 58 (72 wks)
11/19/2007 CD4 609, 30%, VL < 50 (84 wks)
2/11/2008 CD4 439, 27%, VL <50 (96 wks)
5/5/2008 CD4 535, 28%, VL <50 (108 wks)
10/20/2008 CD4 680, 28%, VL <50 (132 wks)
Changed to Atripla in 2012
1/14/2013 CD4 855, 35%, VL <40

Offline John2038

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Re: Numbers help......
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2008, 07:06:30 PM »
My CD8 count was very high and that was what was depressing the %.  My doctor recommended starting meds even with a high absolute count because he said my high CD8 indicated that my immune system was hyperactivated.

And what ?

hyperactives CD8 might be a good sign, as they can allows you to become undetectable. The CD8 count will then decrease and the CD4 % increase.

Well, that's my guess, I might be wrong, but in fact, accordingly to my internet reading, nobody really knows.

So before overreacting and starting meds like that, wait the next labs !

 


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