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Offline Fri213

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Latest Labs
« on: August 25, 2009, 04:40:17 PM »
I've been on Atripla for 4 1/2 months now. I'm glad my CD4s are up but am not happy that the % is down (see signature). Which is more important? Also, what about the other cell counts? They are way up. Is that a good thing or is that irrelevant?

CD3 COUNT/%
02/18/2009    760/90
03/16/2009    860/86
05/12/2009   1075/84
08/11/2009   1377/88

CD8 COUNT/%
02/18/2009   509/60    
03/16/2009   594/59
05/12/2009   746/58
08/11/2009   953/61

CD4/CD8 RATIO
02/18/2009   0.46     
03/16/2009   0.42     
05/12/2009   0.42     
08/11/2009   0.37
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 04:44:33 PM by Fri213 »
12/15/07   HIV -
02/13/09   HIV +
02/18/09   CD4 235 (28%) VL 21,300
03/16/09   CD4 248 (25%) VL 34,900
04/02/09   Start Atripla
05/12/09   CD4 314 (24%) VL 577
08/11/09   CD4 351 (22%) VL Undetectable
11/18/09   CD4 400 (27%) VL 60
02/24/10  CD4 335 (28%)  VL Undetectable
05/26/10  CD4 518 (37%) VL 207
08/25/10  CD4 502 (30%) VL Undetectable
11/24/10  CD4 585 (33%) VL 52
02/23/11  CD4 382 (31%) VL Undetectable

Offline Inchlingblue

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 04:53:24 PM »
You're doing very well for 4.5 months on meds. Those numbers are improving and even though the CD4 percentage went down, it's only one snapshot, you need to look at an overall trend which will take a few more tests.

thebody.com has an "Ask The Experts" section, one part of it is "Understanding My Labs," someone recently asked about the significance of CD3 cells, the doctor responded:

Your CD4+ t cell count is 558. That is what you need to follow. The CD3+ cells are all t lymphocytes, which includes CD4+ and CD8+ cells. The math will not add up exactly, as there are a few other circulating CD3+ cells as well.


LINK:

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Labs/Current/Q203483.html

Offline Nashvegas

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 06:46:58 PM »
I wouldn't worry about the numbers and percentages too much.  My percentages have gone done when my CD4 counts went up, and visa versa.  Fluctuations like that are pretty normal.  Overall, you're doing great!   
8/12/06 - sero-conversion
9/14/06 -- Positive Test results confirmed
9/21/06 -- CD4 - 586; viral load 8,000; 29%
12/25/06 -- CD4 - 373; VL 2,800; 23%
2/10/07 - CD4 - 228; VL 865; 25%
3/15/07 -  CD4 - 365 (no viral load test)
5/1/07 = CD4 - 341; VL 4,358; 27%
8/1/07 - CD4 - 315; VL - 2,300; 25%
9/20/07 - CD4 - 378
11/22/07 - CD4 - 257; VL 7,300;
2/27/08 - CD4 231 (16.5 %), VL 5,960
5/20/08 - CD4 229 (18.3%), VL 11,100
6/17/08 - CD4 166 (14.5%), VL 9,030
6/17/08 - STARTED VIRAMUNE + TRUVADA
7/2/08 - CD4 272 (20%), VL 113  :-)
7/16/08 - CD4 -217 (21.1 %), VL - Undetectable
7/30/08 - CD4 - 220 (20.4%). VL - 92
8/14/08 - CD4 - 280 (22%) VL-undetectable
1/04/09 - CD4 - 250 (28%) VL-UD
5/15/09 - CD4 -393 (28%) VL-UD
8/15/09 - CD4-346, (26%) VL-UD
11/15/09 - CD4-373 (28%)

Offline BlueMoon

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 08:21:26 PM »
Fri, at this point in your treatment, I think the most important number is the one that isn't there, or rather, undetectable.  It took me seventeen months of HAART to get to that point, with a CD4 count of 300. 

The changes in CD4 count and percentage are probably statistically insignificant, so you're basically holding steady there.  With the virus suppressed, you should see improvement over time.  Don't worry, be happy. 
...................VL.....CD4.....%
-----------------------------------------
08/10-- ......<40.....290.....42
05/10-- ......<48.....290.....46
02/10-- ......<48.....481.....44
10/09-- ......<48.....277.....46
07/09-- ......<48.....300.....38
05/09-- ........51.....449.....39
03/09-- Added Isentress
02/09-- ........65.....299.....34
11/08-- ........62.....242.....40
08/08-- ........66.....212.....29
05/08-- ......202.....217.....27
03/08-- ....5210.....187.....21
02/08-- Began Truvada/Reyataz/Norvir
12/07-- 273,000.....157.....22
11/07-- 229,000.....209.....22
10/07-- Diagnosis

It's a complex world.

Offline Fri213

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 05:58:33 PM »
VL is detectable again at 60 but my CD4s are now at 400 so I guess I can't complain! :)
12/15/07   HIV -
02/13/09   HIV +
02/18/09   CD4 235 (28%) VL 21,300
03/16/09   CD4 248 (25%) VL 34,900
04/02/09   Start Atripla
05/12/09   CD4 314 (24%) VL 577
08/11/09   CD4 351 (22%) VL Undetectable
11/18/09   CD4 400 (27%) VL 60
02/24/10  CD4 335 (28%)  VL Undetectable
05/26/10  CD4 518 (37%) VL 207
08/25/10  CD4 502 (30%) VL Undetectable
11/24/10  CD4 585 (33%) VL 52
02/23/11  CD4 382 (31%) VL Undetectable

Offline leatherman

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 06:07:07 PM »
VL is detectable again at 60
some labs count <= 50 as UD, and some <=75, so don't sweat it too much.
your numbers have greatly improved in a short amt of time and that's what matters ;)
leatherman (aka mIkIE)


chart from 1992-2013; updated 2/09/13  Reyataz/Norvir/Truvada

Offline Fri213

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 05:28:24 PM »
The lab I use has <=48 as undetectable. I guess it's a newer, more sensitive test. My doc explained that keeping it under 500 is fine.
12/15/07   HIV -
02/13/09   HIV +
02/18/09   CD4 235 (28%) VL 21,300
03/16/09   CD4 248 (25%) VL 34,900
04/02/09   Start Atripla
05/12/09   CD4 314 (24%) VL 577
08/11/09   CD4 351 (22%) VL Undetectable
11/18/09   CD4 400 (27%) VL 60
02/24/10  CD4 335 (28%)  VL Undetectable
05/26/10  CD4 518 (37%) VL 207
08/25/10  CD4 502 (30%) VL Undetectable
11/24/10  CD4 585 (33%) VL 52
02/23/11  CD4 382 (31%) VL Undetectable

Offline Fri213

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Re: Latest Labs
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 12:24:05 PM »
So I'm not happy with my latest CD4 count of 335. I had fully expected it to keep going up  ???
The lab screwed up and didn't draw my VL so I had to be redrawn. This sucks.

Am I overreacting?
« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 12:14:26 AM by Fri213 »
12/15/07   HIV -
02/13/09   HIV +
02/18/09   CD4 235 (28%) VL 21,300
03/16/09   CD4 248 (25%) VL 34,900
04/02/09   Start Atripla
05/12/09   CD4 314 (24%) VL 577
08/11/09   CD4 351 (22%) VL Undetectable
11/18/09   CD4 400 (27%) VL 60
02/24/10  CD4 335 (28%)  VL Undetectable
05/26/10  CD4 518 (37%) VL 207
08/25/10  CD4 502 (30%) VL Undetectable
11/24/10  CD4 585 (33%) VL 52
02/23/11  CD4 382 (31%) VL Undetectable

 


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