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Author Topic: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?  (Read 3202 times)

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Offline aliveinla

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I had unprotected sex with someone in March 07. I tested neg on 4/24/07 then never had any "risky" behavior. I was tested poz on 1/22/08, then I asked my Mar 07 partner he said he tested neg Dec. 07. Suppose he is telling the truth, suppose I didn't get it from anybody else, is that possible at all someone has the virus but they don't develop any antibodies so regular HIV test can't detect them?
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

Offline AlanBama

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2008, 10:05:59 PM »
Not sure of it, but my guess would be that your friend is lying. (doesn't want you to blame your POZ status on him).   I don't think there are any mysterious strains of HIV that antibody tests fail to uncover......
"Remember my sentimental friend that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others." - The Wizard of Oz

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2008, 10:06:46 PM »
Yairs, early in the infection (prior to 6 weeks since infection) it's possible to test HIV negative but carry the virus and transmit it.

MtD

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2008, 10:15:45 PM »
Not sure of it, but my guess would be that your friend is lying. (doesn't want you to blame your POZ status on him).   I don't think there are any mysterious strains of HIV that antibody tests fail to uncover......

Yeah, I think you are right. I did demand to see his test result but he refused. I want to trust him and don't want to blame anybody but his behavior is kind of strange.

Oh, he said he was detained for 83 days w/o a trial, Dec 07-Feb. 08, that's when he was tested when he was arrested. Is that true that STD test is mandatory for all inmates? And, is that possible someone can be detained for so long without a trial? He said he was falsely accused of assault and robbery happened in November 06 in SF while he was in LA... But who knows... I can't believe anything he said any more, but he appears to be so genuine... What a world!
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2008, 10:22:55 PM »
I don't know what to tell you about all his legal problems, but the Damned One was right on in what he told you.
I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

Offline komnaes

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2008, 10:28:21 PM »
Yeah, I think you are right. I did demand to see his test result but he refused. I want to trust him and don't want to blame anybody but his behavior is kind of strange.

Oh, he said he was detained for 83 days w/o a trial, Dec 07-Feb. 08, that's when he was tested when he was arrested. Is that true that STD test is mandatory for all inmates? And, is that possible someone can be detained for so long without a trial? He said he was falsely accused of assault and robbery happened in November 06 in SF while he was in LA... But who knows... I can't believe anything he said any more, but he appears to be so genuine... What a world!

He was detained for 83 days for suspected robbery/assault?! In the US? Alive, this is not China you're talking about right? If he wasn't charged or prosecuted I don't think they detain people for that long. Or am I missing something.... ???
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline aliveinla

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2008, 11:57:50 PM »
He was detained for 83 days for suspected robbery/assault?! In the US? Alive, this is not China you're talking about right? If he wasn't charged or prosecuted I don't think they detain people for that long. Or am I missing something.... ???

Sounds like China, but it's US. He said he was stopped in Houston, his hometown, then police found record, or maybe a warrant out for his name in Santa Clara county so he was extradited to Santa Clara county and was detained there for 83 days until he found the money to make bail. He is black, 38yo, if that's relevant. He said he has a college degree and had a nice pricy apartment in LA when we met...

So no scientific explanation of what's going on, I guess. I really want to believe him but now I have to assume he was a liar. It's really saddening to know a person can flatly lie to your face and intentionally infect you... Anyway, I myself believed him so it's my fault.
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

Offline komnaes

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 12:06:44 AM »
Whether you believe him or not I suppose it's not relevant now. Consider there's a small (?) chance that this guy was indeed involving in a robbery/assault, perhaps it's better to stay away. I mean - a nice apartment but no bail money?

It does sound like you have accepted that it's our duty to protect ourselves, but most of us would and did try to find ways to find someone to share the blame. I hope you'd find a way to work through this anger, perhaps, or frustration that you suspect he's still lying to you about his status.
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline aliveinla

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2008, 10:32:54 AM »
I don't know what to tell you about all his legal problems, but the Damned One was right on in what he told you.

Yeah, Damned one was absolutely right. But in my case, the question was whether a person can carry the virus w/o developing any antibodies for more than 6 months or even forever? I wonder whether that's scientificly possible at all. How can HIV virus survive w/o killing CD4, and if CD4's are died, how come the body doesn't generate antibody?
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

Offline keyite

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2008, 11:01:16 AM »
the question was whether a person can carry the virus w/o developing any antibodies for more than 6 months or even forever?

It seems it is possible but exceptionally rare:
http://www.nam.org.uk/en/news/C30FBBD2-588A-441D-9E88-83F59309887F.asp

Offline aliveinla

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2008, 03:11:42 PM »
It seems it is possible but exceptionally rare:
http://www.nam.org.uk/en/news/C30FBBD2-588A-441D-9E88-83F59309887F.asp

Thank you for the link, that's exactly the thing that I am looking for. Although my friend might not be one of the rare cases, this provided one possible explanation and I can make peace with it now.

Hind sight is 20/20, if I had read this article earlier, I would have never had unprotected sex with anyone...
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

Offline Winiroo

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2008, 04:23:27 PM »
He sounds shifty. Be careful.

Offline 27years

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2008, 10:10:46 PM »
Hope you are at peace now, all the best
Nobody dies a virgin life screws us all up

Offline AlanBama

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 10:48:06 PM »
Alive,

I would encourage you not to stress out too much over whether or not this person was or is hiv+.   Something we all must accept (and some do struggle with it) is that we are responsible for our own health and well-being.   The only person to 'blame' is the one you see in the mirror.

The sooner you accept that and forgive yourself, the sooner you can begin to lead a much richer life.

Just some advice from an old guy who's had a LONG time to think about this kind of thing.....

hugs,
Alan
"Remember my sentimental friend that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others." - The Wizard of Oz

Offline aliveinla

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2008, 12:06:34 AM »
Yeah, I know I can only blame myself. Silver lining: the sex with him was good.  ;)
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2008, 12:24:42 AM »
Now that's a good attitude!    ;D

You know, I can truthfully say that NO sex I have ever had in my life was worth all the pain and heartache AIDS has caused me.  But, at least it was some fun along the way...

Keep on looking for those silver linings.  ;)

hugs,
Alan
"Remember my sentimental friend that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others." - The Wizard of Oz

Offline komnaes

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2008, 02:23:34 AM »
Yeah, I know I can only blame myself. Silver lining: the sex with him was good.  ;)

.. and he's black too! We will be fighting over black tops in LA later this month Alive!
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

Offline aliveinla

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2008, 12:13:01 AM »
.. and he's black too! We will be fighting over black tops in LA later this month Alive!

yeah we must be soul mate... but I only go for guys who play safe, even now, so we should not compete with each other.
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

Offline komnaes

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2008, 12:12:58 PM »
yeah we must be soul mate... but I only go for guys who play safe, even now, so we should not compete with each other.

Who said I was going back to doing it pink on pink... ;)
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2008, 12:16:16 PM »
don't you mean brown on pink?
midapr07 - seroconversion
sept07 - tested poz
oct07 cd4 1013; vl 13,900; cd4% 41
feb08 cd4  694;  vl 16,160; cd4% 50.1
may08 cd4 546; vl 91,480; cd4% 32
aug08 cd4 576; vl 48,190; cd4% 40.7
dec08 cd4 559; vl 63,020; cd4% 29.4
feb09 cd4 464; vl 11,000; cd4% 26
may09 cd4 544; vl 29,710; cd4% 27.2
oct09 cd4 ...; vl 23,350; cd4% 31.6
mar10 cd4 408; vl 59,050; cd4% 31.4
aug10 cd4 328; vl 80,000; cd4% 19.3 STARTED ATRIPLA
oct10 cd4 423; vl 410 ;); cd4% 30.2
jun11 cd4 439; vl <20 ;); cd4% 33.8 <-Undetectable!
mar12 cd4 695; vl ud; cd4% 38.6
jan13 cd4 738; vl ud; cd4% 36.8
aug13 cd4 930; vl ud; cd4% 44.3
jan14 cd4 813; vl ud; cd4% 42.8
may14 cd4 783; vl *; cd4%43.5

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2008, 12:17:49 PM »
don't you mean brown on pink?

I am so gay I see PINK only buddy!

Hugs, Shaun

PS - I always think you're kind of HOT too... :P
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2008, 03:43:12 PM »
My doctor got a viral load out of me in 11/07, but my ELISA test still came back negative until three days ago (with the most recent one being January). My first encounter with the person I got it from was in July and last was in September. That means there are potentially 6 - 8 months that I tested negative that I had and could have spread it... so... ya. I guess it happens, everyone's bodies are different and there are so many strains going around... who knows, with the right combination maybe there are people who never come up positive on an ELISA test but carry a viral load forever.
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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2008, 08:33:36 PM »
Hi,

My doctor got a viral load out of me in 11/07, but my ELISA test still came back negative until three days ago (with the most recent one being January). My first encounter with the person I got it from was in July and last was in September. That means there are potentially 6 - 8 months that I tested negative that I had and could have spread it... so... ya. I guess it happens, everyone's bodies are different and there are so many strains going around... who knows, with the right combination maybe there are people who never come up positive on an ELISA test but carry a viral load forever.

Very interesting. My doc didn't take my VL before I tested positive. Did you have to pay for the VL test before you tested positive ? Your experience goes counter to what the CDC says everybody testing positive at 13 weeks and most at 25 days ! I really think that is BS by the way. Either that or we are 2 very exceptional individuals. I had a severe illness that I think was HIV in early april 2006. I tested HIV negative in late june 2006. I didn't test HIV positive until late october 2006 . And I had a very low V (698)L. My VL had probably spiked during the preceding illness and then gone way down by the time I tested positive.

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Re: Is that possible someone test neg but carry and pass on the virus?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 09:50:32 PM »
It seems to me that there are still so many unknowns on HIV. Disappointingly I have to guess we are still pretty far from a cure. I am going in to get my 2nd lab tomorrow hopefully my number is still good so I don't need to start meds just yet...
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
11/20/11: CD4 405; VL: UD

 


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