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Author Topic: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island  (Read 7935 times)

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Offline Iggy

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Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« on: March 04, 2008, 11:00:56 PM »
Though Texas is too close to call.

Why do I feel that the Democratic primaries are more interesting than the general election

Modified to add Rhode Island win for Clinton and Vermont win for Obama.

Added CNN projection of Clinton Win in Texas.

I guess we have ourselves a real race, folks
« Last Edit: March 05, 2008, 01:18:07 AM by Iggy »

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins OHIO and Leads in Texas
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 11:03:20 PM »
I just heard about it on the radio.  All I have to say is "well, crappy doody" ;D

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins OHIO and Leads in Texas
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 11:04:41 PM »
I just heard about it on the radio.  All I have to say is "well, crappy doody" ;D

Mum

What?  No doody crappy?

Frankly I'm happy with either but I do admit some enjoyment at the excitment!

Offline emeraldize

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins OHIO and Leads in Texas
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 11:26:27 PM »
I agree Iggy. This definitely beats and to some degree makes up for those times when you feel you're left to pick the lesser of two evils.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins OHIO and Leads in Texas
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 11:32:42 PM »
A-fucking-men (and in honor of Hillary: A-Fucking-Women too)

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 04:58:08 AM »
She also took Texas.

Offline komnaes

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2008, 05:49:08 AM »
She also took Texas.

Now this is interesting. For those of us that are outside of the US, another Clinton is far more reassuring than Obama or McCain, but then who cares what we think.. ;)

If she ends up being the candidate, who would/could she pick as her VP?
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Offline Cliff

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2008, 06:30:28 AM »
Well, she managed to break his momentum; which is what she needed to do.  The race is getting less and less exciting for me.  Now it's just becoming tedious and tiresome.  Get it over with for god sake. 

It's basically going to go all the way to the convention....probably with them being tied in delegate count (or Obama leading slightly) and relying on the super-delegates to decide the nominee.

Ultimately, I think Clinton will get the nomination but McCain will win the general election.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2008, 06:53:51 AM »
Well, she managed to break his momentum; which is what she needed to do.  The race is getting less and less exciting for me.  Now it's just becoming tedious and tiresome.  Get it over with for god sake. 

It's basically going to go all the way to the convention....probably with them being tied in delegate count (or Obama leading slightly) and relying on the super-delegates to decide the nominee.

Ultimately, I think Clinton will get the nomination but McCain will win the general election.

I was over it when it started Cliff. They run it into the ground.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2008, 07:06:34 AM »
I wouldn't be so fast to say that McCain would win.  Alot more people than what we think are tired of beating the dead horse (war in Iraq).  People are ready for that to be over.   

I personally hope Obama gets the nom, but I'll vote democrat either way.  I don't know who Hillary would pick for a vp, but John Edwards would certainly be a good idea.  My two cents.
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Offline Funkengruven

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2008, 11:55:38 AM »
On CBS this morning, Clinton hinted at the "very real possibility" of a Clinton/Obama ticket in the general election.  Both candidates have danced around the issue, and this is the first time I've heard either one of them flat out mention the possibility.  I voted for Obama in my state's caucuses, but I would still be very pleased if Hillary was the democratic nominee and had Obama as her running mate.  If "experience" is the greatest criticism against him, what better place for him to gain the necessary experience to quiet those criticisms than the office of the Vice Presidency.  I just hope they figure out who gets top billing quickly.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2008, 01:44:27 PM »
Added detail....Clinton wins Texas primary (barely) but Obama wins more Texas delegates overall.

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Offline RapidRod

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2008, 03:19:34 PM »
I don't believe we'll have to worry about either of the them come November.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2008, 03:22:27 PM »
Go Hillary!!!!!!!!
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2008, 03:50:39 PM »
with some of the social issues in america, I just have to ask.. what % of america would be ready for a female or black president?!?!

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2008, 03:55:19 PM »
with some of the social issues in america, I just have to ask.. what % of america would be ready for a female or black president?!?!

J

Hopefully more than the % of those who want to take on Iran and stay in Iraq for 100 more years.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2008, 04:03:05 PM »
with some of the social issues in america, I just have to ask.. what % of america would be ready for a female or black president?!?!

J

It's one way to vote in the primaries, but when the General Election comes in November, the question you asked will be answered. That's not to say Hillary or Obama couldn't do a good job. America just isn't ready. .

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2008, 04:10:12 PM »
America just isn't ready. .

When you post such drivel I'm reminded of what a different backwater area of the US you live in, so perhaps you're not up on how much the rest of the country has come along.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2008, 04:11:54 PM »
Go Hillary!!!!!!!!
Unlike the majority of our county we voted for Hillary. I was up past 1am watching the results come in. Thrilled to see Clinton win in  Ohio and Texas

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2008, 07:39:06 PM »
Not that I have anything against Obama. I just don't think America is ready yet, sorry Cliff and Philicia.
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« Last Edit: March 05, 2008, 11:37:06 PM by philly267 »
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2008, 12:18:00 AM »
I know better than to duel you....You whip out polls and links like a 12 gage shotty.... ;) ;D :-*



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Offline DCGUY2007

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2008, 03:27:31 AM »
Go Obama!!

It's sad that some people don't want a female or black president.

To think America would want Mccain after 8 years of Bush is amazing!

Offline mjmel

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2008, 04:29:39 AM »
Whichever democrat gains the nomination, we have a woman or a biracial man as major contenders. Is the country ready?  uhmm...isn't it obvious?
When I see McCain he often seems rather fragile. Physically. I am most interested as to who his running mate will be. You know, in case McCain breaks a hip or becomes incapacitated. Or croaks.

DCGUY: ya never know what going to happen for sure. I mean, it's all part of the excitement, isn't it.
Remember, the voters in this country elected George W Bush twice.

I just hope and pray the next 4 years will belong to the Democratic Party. We'll be pulling out of Iraq if democrats win the White House. We'll be seeing something done about healthcare--just what exactly, remains to be seen. A politicians promises are often quite diminished when they come out of the wash of Congressional processes.



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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2008, 02:48:06 AM »


http://fathersforlife.org/hist/feminism-is-communism1.htm

We must understand, that feminism, is socialism/communism.[1] Indeed, where Karl Marx and every communist on earth want to create a class struggle in order to control the means of production, feminists just replace class with gender.[2] Where communists attempted global conquest, now, the feminists create a silent "constant state of war" implemented silently against every home and family via feminism.[3] I find it very odd that other [of] their party intellectuals have also made this same connection:

Everything feminists advocate was advocated by the Communist Party of the United States in the 1940's and 1950's. Betty Friedan, author of The Feminine Mystique (1963) and founder of modern feminism, hid the fact that she had been a Communist activist for 20 years. (See feminist historian Kate Weigand's, Red Feminism: American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 2001). Feminism simply transfers Marxist class analysis to gender. The aim is the same: the "patriarchy" (white men, capitalism) is the source of all evil and must be destroyed ("transformed"). Women (the proletariat) and anyone else deemed "oppressed" (gays, people of color) must be handed position and power on a silver platter.[4]

"Feminism is the intellectual organization of gender hatred, just as Marxism was the intellectual organization of class hatred. Feminism's business is fashioning weapons to be used against men in society, education, politics, law and divorce court. The feminist aim is to overthrow "patriarchal tyranny." In this undertaking, the male's civil rights count for no more than those of the bourgeoisie in Soviet Russia or the Jews in National Socialist Germany."[5]

[1] American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, by Henry Makow, PhD., October 3, 2001
[2] Sexuality is to feminism what work is to Marxism. Toward a Feminist Theory of the State, by Catharine A. MacKinnon, 1989, First Harvard University Press, p. 3.
[3] They will subvert all foreign nations using this same gender warfare as well. I believe this is what is presently occurring foundationally in the Middle East.
[4] http://www.savethemales.ca/uw/main.html
[5] What civil rights has wrought. Paul Craig Roberts, July 26, 2000. Townhall.com - Creators Syndicate.


http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism


While Communism calls for the absence of personal ownership and claims to support a communal society in the abstract, the practical reality of communism is strikingly different.

As a political movement, communism advocates the establishment of a classless society. In actuality it has middle and upper classes just as stratified as in the "Capitalist" societies it critiques or seeks to overthrow (see Nomenklatura). It officially prohibits personal economic growth, but allows the well-connected political elite to amass power and wealth, similar to the unfettered capitalism favored by conservatives. (see Ruling class).

It generally advocates a socialist economy in which the public, whether the state or other group, owns the means of production and in which the wealth of the nation is divided fairly among the citizens. Yet in communist countries party members (there is only one Party) have special stores in which ordinary people cannot shop, stores which are immune to the perennial shortages which the lower class must endure (see queuing).

Communists usually claim they are good, and that they want world peace, which is just lies to deceive people, because they do just the opposite. They usually create war, abolish personal freedoms, and try to clamp down on individualistic creativity. Under Communism, the people become slaves of the vast government machine, who controls every aspect, no matter how small, of each citizen. Economically, they are a failure, as you can see why the people, tired of economic ruin, themselves have overthrown Communist regimes in Central and Eastern Europe. They are hypocrites because they say one thing, and do another in order to deceive people and create chaos and anarchy from where they can take over.

Communists have only caused pain and suffering wherever they have taken over. They don't believe in the well being of people, just in the well being of "Party Members". Communist dictators and fellow Party Members are usually the only people well off,in most cases living like Czars or the worst "burgeouis" they criticize so much. In Eastern Europe and Russia millions were killed for having "petty Burgeuois" tendencies. The worst and most opressive dictators in history have been Communists; to name a few examples: J.Stalin, Fidel Castro, Gen. Jaruzelski and Ceausescu in Romania, just to name a few. Isn't it tiresome to hear these Communists label anything against their ideas as "fascists" and "racist" or "nazi"?

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2008, 03:01:35 AM »
huh?
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2008, 04:28:03 AM »

DCGUY: ya never know what going to happen for sure. I mean, it's all part of the excitement, isn't it.
Remember, the voters in this country elected George W Bush twice.


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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2008, 05:58:32 AM »
http://fathersforlife.org/hist/feminism-is-communism1.htmWe must understand, that feminism, is socialism/communism.[1] Indeed, where Karl Marx and every communist on earth want to create a class struggle in order to control the means of production, feminists just replace class with gender.[2] Where communists attempted global conquest, now, the feminists create a silent "constant state of war" implemented silently against every home and family via feminism.[3] I find it very odd that other [of] their party intellectuals have also made this same connection: Everything feminists advocate was advocated by the Communist Party of the United States in the 1940's and 1950's. Betty Friedan, author of The Feminine Mystique (1963) and founder of modern feminism, hid the fact that she had been a Communist activist for 20 years. (See feminist historian Kate Weigand's, Red Feminism: American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 2001). Feminism simply transfers Marxist class analysis to gender. The aim is the same: the "patriarchy" (white men, capitalism) is the source of all evil and must be destroyed ("transformed"). Women (the proletariat) and anyone else deemed "oppressed" (gays, people of color) must be handed position and power on a silver platter.[4] "Feminism is the intellectual organization of gender hatred, just as Marxism was the intellectual organization of class hatred. Feminism's business is fashioning weapons to be used against men in society, education, politics, law and divorce court. The feminist aim is to overthrow "patriarchal tyranny." In this undertaking, the male's civil rights count for no more than those of the bourgeoisie in Soviet Russia or the Jews in National Socialist Germany."[5] [1] American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, by Henry Makow, PhD., October 3, 2001[2] Sexuality is to feminism what work is to Marxism. Toward a Feminist Theory of the State, by Catharine A. MacKinnon, 1989, First Harvard University Press, p. 3. [3] They will subvert all foreign nations using this same gender warfare as well. I believe this is what is presently occurring foundationally in the Middle East. [4] http://www.savethemales.ca/uw/main.html[5] What civil rights has wrought. Paul Craig Roberts, July 26, 2000. Townhall.com - Creators Syndicate.http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2008, 08:04:45 AM »
Sourcing through conservapedia I see. I'm not quite sure how this relates to the discussion at hand, but maybe you can enlighten us. This is troubling:

Feminism simply transfers Marxist class analysis to gender. The aim is the same: the "patriarchy" (white men, capitalism) is the source of all evil and must be destroyed ("transformed"). Women (the proletariat) and anyone else deemed "oppressed" (gays, people of color) must be handed position and power on a silver platter.[4]
 

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2008, 04:34:55 PM »
"Sourcing through conservapedia I see. I'm not quite sure how this relates to the discussion at hand, but maybe you can enlighten us. This is troubling:"

Though a hetero myself, I'm not anti-gay person. I oppose all kinds of discrimination based on sexual orientation.
So Dauschhund, you cant't blame me for gay bashing, if that was what you ment.

"anyone else deemed "oppressed" (gays, people of color) must be handed position and power on a silver platter.[4] "

Personally, i would not have used the term "on a silver platter"... its more like "at gun point"... 

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2008, 04:59:52 PM »
Nobody mentioned "gay bashing", Mr. Strawman.  We're wondering what your intention was in the first place of posting a piece about feminism being " the intellectual organization of gender hatred" etc. and some gibberish about communism, linked to from a web site with masthead that denigrates single child-rearing women.

BUT WHILE WE'RE AT IT now that you voluntarily mention gay bashing, that fathersforlife.org site of yours DOES IN FACT gay bash.

http://fathersforlife.org/Table_contents_gj.htm#Gay_Issues

Guess that slipped by you (or something).
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2008, 05:13:41 PM »

"http://fathersforlife.org/Table_contents_gj.htm#Gay_Issues Guess that slipped by you (or something)."

Well yes, that slipped by me, and i haven't read that even now. 'Cause it does not concern me.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2008, 05:48:11 PM »
"Sourcing through conservapedia I see. I'm not quite sure how this relates to the discussion at hand, but maybe you can enlighten us. This is troubling:"

Though a hetero myself, I'm not anti-gay person. I oppose all kinds of discrimination based on sexual orientation.
So Dauschhund, you cant't blame me for gay bashing, if that was what you ment.

"anyone else deemed "oppressed" (gays, people of color) must be handed position and power on a silver platter.[4] "

Personally, i would not have used the term "on a silver platter"... its more like "at gun point"... 



I'm not sure what you are talking about, but the "at gun point" is another unfortunate choice of words.

If as you admit, you're not reading or responsible for what is on the internet then what is the point of providing the links? Before this thread goes up in "we know what", I'm going to report it to the mods and see if they can make sense out of it. For the record, I find the links inflammatory.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2008, 05:57:37 PM »


I'm not sure what you are talking about, but the "at gun point" is another unfortunate choice of words.

If as you admit, you're not reading or responsible for what is on the internet then what is the point of providing the links? Before this thread goes up in "we know what", I'm going to report it to the mods and see if they can make sense out of it. For the record, I find the links inflammatory.


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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2008, 06:05:59 PM »
The links were givena as a reference, not as a testimony that i agree with everything that is found by searching the sites. And searching you must have done, because this inflammatory link, what ever it contains, was not provided by me.
However, i can see that this gay-bashing issue is just an excuse to remove the core-issue, the political discussion, it handles the motivation of the american political left. Your aim was not to clean the forum, but to remove the post to begin with.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2008, 06:09:16 PM »
Well dear, you've never quite explained what the intention was of your first copy/paste and what the relevance is to this thread (though I already asked that you do so once, which you ignored).
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2008, 06:13:36 PM »
There is relevance. and I am glad it is not you who decides whether there is relevance or not.



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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2008, 06:17:04 PM »
*sigh*...  so why are you dodging explaining it?  I plain just don't get what you were trying to say, but if you want to tap dance around the issue then I don't know what more to say here.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2008, 06:24:26 PM »
philly267, Who made you to run this forum? Isn't it relieving to hear there is a relevance?


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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2008, 06:25:13 PM »
I'm sorry but you have to take ownership when you provide this type of link.

http://www.savethemales.ca/000808.html

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2008, 06:27:58 PM »
omg... anti-Semitism too?  How the hell did I miss THAT link?

Customer, I'd just bow out right now if I were you.  You're digging a deep hole really quickly.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2008, 06:30:17 PM »
I have not provided that link.  Dachshund provided that link in the hope of getting the political issue removed.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2008, 06:30:56 PM »
The links were givena as a reference, not as a testimony that i agree with everything that is found by searching the sites. And searching you must have done, because this inflammatory link, what ever it contains, was not provided by me.
However, i can see that this gay-bashing issue is just an excuse to remove the core-issue, the political discussion, it handles the motivation of the american political left. Your aim was not to clean the forum, but to remove the post to begin with.

I submit that while you may not "be responsible for everything said on the internet", if you hawk these cut & paste comments & links within your posts, you ARE responsible for them there.  You bring it, you own it.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2008, 06:31:34 PM »
oh, but you DID provide that link...check your post

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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2008, 06:32:36 PM »

http://fathersforlife.org/hist/feminism-is-communism1.htm

We must understand, that feminism, is socialism/communism.[1] Indeed, where Karl Marx and every communist on earth want to create a class struggle in order to control the means of production, feminists just replace class with gender.[2] Where communists attempted global conquest, now, the feminists create a silent "constant state of war" implemented silently against every home and family via feminism.[3] I find it very odd that other [of] their party intellectuals have also made this same connection:

Everything feminists advocate was advocated by the Communist Party of the United States in the 1940's and 1950's. Betty Friedan, author of The Feminine Mystique (1963) and founder of modern feminism, hid the fact that she had been a Communist activist for 20 years. (See feminist historian Kate Weigand's, Red Feminism: American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 2001). Feminism simply transfers Marxist class analysis to gender. The aim is the same: the "patriarchy" (white men, capitalism) is the source of all evil and must be destroyed ("transformed"). Women (the proletariat) and anyone else deemed "oppressed" (gays, people of color) must be handed position and power on a silver platter.[4]

"Feminism is the intellectual organization of gender hatred, just as Marxism was the intellectual organization of class hatred. Feminism's business is fashioning weapons to be used against men in society, education, politics, law and divorce court. The feminist aim is to overthrow "patriarchal tyranny." In this undertaking, the male's civil rights count for no more than those of the bourgeoisie in Soviet Russia or the Jews in National Socialist Germany."[5]

[1] American Communism and the Making of Women's Liberation, by Henry Makow, PhD., October 3, 2001
[2] Sexuality is to feminism what work is to Marxism. Toward a Feminist Theory of the State, by Catharine A. MacKinnon, 1989, First Harvard University Press, p. 3.
[3] They will subvert all foreign nations using this same gender warfare as well. I believe this is what is presently occurring foundationally in the Middle East.
[4] http://www.savethemales.ca/uw/main.html[5] What civil rights has wrought. Paul Craig Roberts, July 26, 2000. Townhall.com - Creators Syndicate.


http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism


While Communism calls for the absence of personal ownership and claims to support a communal society in the abstract, the practical reality of communism is strikingly different.

As a political movement, communism advocates the establishment of a classless society. In actuality it has middle and upper classes just as stratified as in the "Capitalist" societies it critiques or seeks to overthrow (see Nomenklatura). It officially prohibits personal economic growth, but allows the well-connected political elite to amass power and wealth, similar to the unfettered capitalism favored by conservatives. (see Ruling class).

It generally advocates a socialist economy in which the public, whether the state or other group, owns the means of production and in which the wealth of the nation is divided fairly among the citizens. Yet in communist countries party members (there is only one Party) have special stores in which ordinary people cannot shop, stores which are immune to the perennial shortages which the lower class must endure (see queuing).

Communists usually claim they are good, and that they want world peace, which is just lies to deceive people, because they do just the opposite. They usually create war, abolish personal freedoms, and try to clamp down on individualistic creativity. Under Communism, the people become slaves of the vast government machine, who controls every aspect, no matter how small, of each citizen. Economically, they are a failure, as you can see why the people, tired of economic ruin, themselves have overthrown Communist regimes in Central and Eastern Europe. They are hypocrites because they say one thing, and do another in order to deceive people and create chaos and anarchy from where they can take over.

Communists have only caused pain and suffering wherever they have taken over. They don't believe in the well being of people, just in the well being of "Party Members". Communist dictators and fellow Party Members are usually the only people well off,in most cases living like Czars or the worst "burgeouis" they criticize so much. In Eastern Europe and Russia millions were killed for having "petty Burgeuois" tendencies. The worst and most opressive dictators in history have been Communists; to name a few examples: J.Stalin, Fidel Castro, Gen. Jaruzelski and Ceausescu in Romania, just to name a few. Isn't it tiresome to hear these Communists label anything against their ideas as "fascists" and "racist" or "nazi"?


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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2008, 06:33:21 PM »
Negative. 000808.html is not occuring in any of my texts

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2008, 06:35:47 PM »
That's the problem with hate sites, Customer, and using links from them.  If you lie down with dogs you get fleas, or whatever that saying is.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2008, 06:36:37 PM »
Negative. 000808.html is not occuring in any of my texts


I just quoted your original post, and BOTH links are contained within it.  Fathers for Life is the very first thing you see.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2008, 06:39:08 PM »
Though a hetero myself, I'm not anti-gay person. I oppose all kinds of discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Why, you're just a social critic who promotes equality, you are!
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2008, 06:40:18 PM »
as to the earlier request for relevance...

first, may I note I am most thankful (if your profile is to be believed) that you are from somewhere in Europe and unable to vote in our election, unless you're an ex-pat, able to vote and into pot-stirring from afar

you've been with "us" two years and completely absorbed in the conjecture crockpot of meds, and potential, etc. and you're lucky enough, I'm surmising still to not be on meds.

so today you're bored and decide to move from meds to politics?

here's the relevance question again...

you're the first to intoduce feminism into this thread by way of a fantastic blur of cut and paste

let's cut to basics. a boy can grow up to be a man of an age and educational level to run for president. a girl can grow up to be a woman of an age and educational level to run for president. the latter is what happened and is happening.

you should focus on saving the world through conjecture by containing your various pedia pawing efforts

ANYONE can cut/paste. ANYONE can stir a pot.

booooooooooorrrrrrrrringggggggggg! edited to add. and..useless. you could donate this time to an elderly person whose pillows need fluffing and be of better service to mankind
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2008, 06:40:54 PM »
May it be Hillary or Obama, I don't really care, just as long it is the Democrates.  I can't stand Bush's best friend our Prime Minister of Canada, Harper.  If the Democrates wins, then we will probably get ride of his conservative friend Mr. Harper.  Cheers!  :-* ;D
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2008, 06:43:14 PM »
You see found in the bowels of the link you did provide is this statement. So yes I do want the mods to censure you.

A prominent psychiatrist says the sex-ed curricula at these schools can lower children "to the level of animals" and inflict lasting harm. "Massachusetts schools' systematic promotion of homosexuality and promiscuity fosters sexual confusion and experimentation," says Nathaniel S. Lehrman, former clinical director of the Kingsboro Psychiatric Center in New York. "They dilute and trivialize [the capacity for] faithful sexual passion which should [later] be the cement of these children's marriages. Unstable youngsters may become particularly vulnerable to homosexuals who actively recruit them."

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2008, 06:47:05 PM »
The links, which you have provided, you should blame yourself. Actually, i have not even read savethemales site articles, i only have read the text which i copy/pasted. You desperately try to put words in my mouth and make me responsible for something i did not say, but it aint gonna work. Are you that desperate to have the polical issue removed? That should be a sign of something.

I have not found an accurate political analysis of leftist ideologies anywhere. I think out of all political analyses i have read, the conservapedia article is the most accurate.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2008, 06:50:43 PM »
"So yes I do want the mods to censure you."

The mods may censure me, but they cannot censure the rapidly growing electronic data-transmission. They may even forbid some ideolgies in the internet, but they cannot control low-level information passing.


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« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2008, 06:53:50 PM »
The links, which you have provided, you should blame yourself. Actually, i have not even read savethemales site articles, i only have read the text which i copy/pasted. You desperately try to put words in my mouth and make me responsible for something i did not say, but it aint gonna work. Are you that desperate to have the polical issue removed? That should be a sign of something.

I have not found an accurate political analysis of leftist ideologies anywhere. I think out of all political analyses i have read, the conservapedia article is the most accurate.


Oh, puh-leeze.  Spare us.  The links came from YOUR post, so they are YOUR links, bright guy.  Do you think someone like the right's Rush Limbaugh would let such sloppiness from the left go by unchecked?  

(Let's all bear in mind this is the same guru who attempted to tell us all exactly how to do treatment interruptions - without himself EVER having had ANY experience with HIV medicines.)

And, cussie, you keep alluding to us trying to "have the political issue removed", but refuse to tell us exactly what this "issue" is.  

Go on, customer....tell us.  Have enough rope to hang yourself.  By all means.
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« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2008, 06:55:24 PM »
Oh, look.  He tucked tail and ran.

What a suprise.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2008, 07:01:27 PM »
I'm still reading through the links Customer provided.

Did the Jews bring the Holocaust on themselves?


Yeah.  Those Jews were just asking for it.   ::)

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« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2008, 07:03:38 PM »
I clicked around on them a bit but I got scared really quickly.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2008, 07:04:24 PM »
The links, which you have provided, you should blame yourself.


Now what do you mean by this? I have a pretty good idea and I think so does everyone else.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2008, 07:41:04 PM »
Customer, it seems like you're trying to flame-bait Dachs. 

You can't back-up anything you say or post.  You post links and then say you don't.  Why would anyone trust anything you say?  You obviously need professional therapy of some kind.  I read your past posts about treatment ideas.  How dare you suggest anything when you've never been on treatment yourself.  You seem to have this over-righteous attitude and try to come in here tongue-wagging and lashing about how things are in 'your' world and how everyone else should accept them as being so.   I say if you can't post anything substantial, why post in the first place?

Sorry to the mods, it just upsets me a little, especially when talking about feminism being equal to marxism.  There is no relevance there whatsoever.
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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #61 on: March 08, 2008, 07:43:52 PM »
There is relevance. and I am glad it is not you who decides whether there is relevance or not.

Customer, I can certainly decide this, if you'd like.   I'm a moderator in these forums.

Please explain why you would highjack this thread with a complete provocation targeting a large portion of our membership.  Why would you include a link to a page filled with hateful garbage?

You agreed to the following when you joined these forums:

"These forums are moderated, and in order to provide a safe place for our diverse membership, we have a strict policy against threatening or abusive language, or language that is racially, ethnically, sexually, or otherwise objectionable."

Please don't hide behind the fact that you only quoted selectively from the web page you referenced -- you provided the full link, which led us to a page filled with hate-filled ideology, not to mention all its links to even worse stuff.

Frankly, I think an apology is your only shot at remaining a member of these forums.

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« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2008, 08:17:25 PM »
The links could have be removed, but i didn't because they are referred to in the article. The "hate"-links were not provided by me, but were searched for by daschund and others to find an excuse to blame me. It's an old trick. I am not anti-gay, and i am not anti-jewish.  They wish i was, so they would have an excuse to censor me.

No rules have been broken, since critism to leftist ideology or feminist ideology does not belong to "racially, ethnically, sexually, or otherwise objectionable" categories, and this is off-topic thread. It's common political discussion.

However, if you think this site should have a political bias, then go ahead and remove my posts, or what ever you need to do.




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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2008, 08:57:26 PM »
Customer -- please don't take me for an idiot.  You are not relieved of all responsibility for something you post just because it's a quote from another source.  You didn't preface the quote with "hey everyone, look at this crap!" -- you posted it as your opinion.

And if you think "feminism, is socialism/communism" is just "common political discussion," then you're living on a different planet than the one I hope we're all living on.

By the way, I have nothing against those who believe and defend the typical ideological tenants of the American conservative.  My father, who I love, is a Republican.  I have maintained healthy relationships with some of my friends who consider themselves conservatives.  Your ideology isn't right or left.  It's hate.

I'm banning you from these forums.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2008, 03:40:00 AM »
Well Obama has won Wyoming!  So he has now won 12 out of the last 15 primaries.  Actually I personally think he has won 13 out of the last 15, since he took Texas.  If you read through the headlines, Clinton barely won Texas (by less than 1%) but she lost the state's caucus, so Obama actually won more Texas delegates than her.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2008, 07:40:27 AM »


And he will be on his way to win Mississippi on Tuesday !...


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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #66 on: March 09, 2008, 08:05:21 AM »
Even though the primary season is too long, too costly, and way too crazy, I still have hope.

Yesterday there was a special election to replace former speaker Denny Hastert. This is a very conservative, heavily Republican district that Bush carried with ease. John McCain and Barack Obama both took time out of their schedules to campaign for the two candidates and the RNCC spent millions trying to elect the Republican. The Democratic nominee for Hastert's Congressional Seat won!

"Congratulations to Bill Foster on his victory tonight. Bill Fosterís victory in the seat that was held by Speaker Hastert sends a political shock wave across America this election year. It is a stunning rejection of the Bush Administration, its Republican allies, and presidential nominee John McCain. Republican candidates learned tonight that Senator McCain, who campaigned with the Republican nominee, cannot save them from defeat this November against strong Democratic challengers, even in districts that voted overwhelmingly for President Bush.

"Despite spending 20 percent of the their cash on hand, the NRCC was unable to hold a seat easily won by President Bush and held by Speaker Hastert for 20 years.  Americans of all political stripes are rejecting Republicansí divisive, status quo politics and turning to Democratic candidates for change.  I am   grateful to Senator Dick Durbin, Senator Barack Obama, and the Illinois Democratic delegation and candidates for encouraging the people of this district to vote for change by supporting Bill Foster.

"Voters of all political stripes responded to Bill Fosterís commitment to change. With his unique background as a respected scientist and a successful businessman, Bill Foster will be a tremendous asset to our Democratic Caucus, as we continue fighting to strengthen our economy and ease the squeeze on Americaís struggling middle class families."

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« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2008, 09:37:24 AM »
What a glorious piece of news to read first thing in the morning! Yippee.

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Re: Breaking News - Clinton Wins Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island
« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2008, 02:24:05 PM »
Even though the primary season is too long, too costly, and way too crazy, I still have hope.

Yesterday there was a special election to replace former speaker Denny Hastert. This is a very conservative, heavily Republican district that Bush carried with ease. John McCain and Barack Obama both took time out of their schedules to campaign for the two candidates and the RNCC spent millions trying to elect the Republican. The Democratic nominee for Hastert's Congressional Seat won!

"Congratulations to Bill Foster on his victory tonight. Bill Fosterís victory in the seat that was held by Speaker Hastert sends a political shock wave across America this election year. It is a stunning rejection of the Bush Administration, its Republican allies, and presidential nominee John McCain. Republican candidates learned tonight that Senator McCain, who campaigned with the Republican nominee, cannot save them from defeat this November against strong Democratic challengers, even in districts that voted overwhelmingly for President Bush.

"Despite spending 20 percent of the their cash on hand, the NRCC was unable to hold a seat easily won by President Bush and held by Speaker Hastert for 20 years.  Americans of all political stripes are rejecting Republicansí divisive, status quo politics and turning to Democratic candidates for change.  I am   grateful to Senator Dick Durbin, Senator Barack Obama, and the Illinois Democratic delegation and candidates for encouraging the people of this district to vote for change by supporting Bill Foster.

"Voters of all political stripes responded to Bill Fosterís commitment to change. With his unique background as a respected scientist and a successful businessman, Bill Foster will be a tremendous asset to our Democratic Caucus, as we continue fighting to strengthen our economy and ease the squeeze on Americaís struggling middle class families."


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