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Offline WellHungarian

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2008, 07:04:48 PM »
AFter reading in here I think maybe mine was not so bad.  I felt a little sick and weak for a few days but it was like having the flu or something. 

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2008, 07:27:49 PM »
very likely to be a very recent infection, not only due to sympthoms, but to my still high number of CD4 (1100) and becasuse viral load lowed itself from 264.000 to 60.000 in 4 weeks. She proposed me to start with meds immediately. So I did.

I'm curious as to why your doctor wanted to start you on meds with such high CD4's.
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Offline RapidRod

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2008, 07:40:18 PM »
alberche, find a new doctor. There is no reason that you were put on meds. Your CD4 were within the normal range. 

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2008, 08:34:27 PM »
I am soooo jealous ... All of you losing weight while converting .... I have been so stressed in the last month since being diagnosed I've gained 14 lbs in stress eating UGH .... The only symptom I had duing conversion was swollen lymph nodes. My Dr. just thought it was allergies and nothing to worry about. Damn, if I had to get this, couldn't I have dropped 30 - 40 lbs? Serously, I run marathons less weight is a good thing .. <sigh> i guess it's like Lestat about the Dark Gift .... it's different for eveyone.


Ha!  I love it!

My seroconversion was horrible for months with mono-like symptoms.  I went from being a chunky boy to a hairy twink while my doctors tested me for everything they could think of, but that was before we had HIV tests.  In hindisght, I erred in not sending a proper thank-you note to the big gorgeous Swede who gave me syphilis and a little bonus to last a lifetime.
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09-30-09   208wks VL  2050  CD4 925 (42%)
06-25-08   143wks VL  1359  CD4 668 (32%)  CD8 885
02-11-08   123wks off meds:  VL 1364 CD4 892(40%/0.99 ratio)
10-19-07   112wks off meds:   VL 292  CD4 857(37%/0.85 ratio)

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Offline ArisGreekSquared

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2008, 10:21:46 AM »
I got conjunctivitis in my right eye and a sore throat.

Offline hivsweden

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2008, 01:42:40 PM »
What I think was my seroconversion (4yrs previous to my diagnosis) was a really bad flu with some strange white spots with rough edges and I couldn't taste or smell anything. I couldn't even smell ammonia.

Offline daisychain

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2008, 04:43:04 PM »
Hiya

I had absolutley no symptoms whatsoever.
Just thought id add.

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2008, 02:37:42 PM »
Mine was pretty bad. Started out with minor leg pains that got so severe I could barely walk. I had a sore throat, my mouth was covered with Thrush that eventually went down my throat. I had a rash that started mid-back up to my chin. Several episodes of diarrhea, no vomiting though.  All of this lasted a week in which during that time I was thought to of had leukemia. I was infected on Dec 24, 2007, became ill on Jan 3, 2008 and tested postive on Feb 12, 2008. 


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1/3/08-ARS began
2/12/08-diagnosed
Initial Vl=99000
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2/14/08-began Truvada/Reyataz/Norvir
3/01/08=Swapped Reyataz for Viramune
5/1/08:     vl= undetectable
                cd4=1250
10/24/08:  vl=undetectable
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12/4/08:    vl=254 (hopefully just a small blip)
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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2008, 02:51:00 PM »
Welcome to the forums, Jen.  I look forward to getting to know you better.
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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2008, 07:17:14 PM »
It all happenned suddenly....

one day i woke up and started vomitting everything i ate... felt my stomach was closet and lost appetite for couple of days.. and if i ate something... i would go vomitting few minutes afterwards.

Then came the fever, headache, gases.

And same day a strong diarrhoea also appeared...

i got my face all red.

i went to see different doctors and they were all thinking it was something else... it lasted about a week and lost 3kg during it. Then i took the decission to test for something none suspected and.... well... got the news.

Juan Carlos
13/03/07 1er diagnóstico /Peso: 79kg
19/04/07 CD4: 494 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 80kg
19/07/07 CD4: 659 /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79.5kg
06/03/08 CD4: 573 (después de meses muy deprimido) /CViral: ?? /Peso: 79kg
17/09/08 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 84Kg
06/02/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 85Kg /HCV: Neg /HBV: Neg.
07/03/09 CD4: ?? /CViral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg / Gym 3días/semana y Natación 2días/semana.
12/05/09 CD4: 470 /Cviral: ?? /Peso: 87Kg.
08/07/09 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 77Kg.
09/12/09 CD4: 510 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg. No medicinas aún
10/01/10 CD4: ? /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
15/05/10 CD4: 320 /CViral: ? /Peso: 76Kg.
01/02/11 CD4: 291 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
05/05/11 CD4: 366 /CViral: ? /Peso: 78kg.
27/07/11 CD4: 255 /CViral: 138000 /Peso: 78kg.

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Offline jennynyc7

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2008, 11:15:24 AM »
Thanks Bettytacy! I am glad I found this site!

jen
12/24/07-infected
1/3/08-ARS began
2/12/08-diagnosed
Initial Vl=99000
CD4=585
2/14/08-began Truvada/Reyataz/Norvir
3/01/08=Swapped Reyataz for Viramune
5/1/08:     vl= undetectable
                cd4=1250
10/24/08:  vl=undetectable
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12/4/08:    vl=254 (hopefully just a small blip)
                cd4=1234

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2008, 05:04:31 PM »
Thanks Bettytacy! I am glad I found this site!

jen

Jen, why don't you join us ladies in the "positive women" part of the forum.  There's a thread in there called the ladie's thread where we talk about our daily lives, struggles, little victories etc. and support each other.  We'd love to have you!
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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2008, 09:08:49 PM »
Hi Jen. So you dont have to look for the thread if you are interested this is where us ladies are currently chit chatting.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=22681.msg288489#msg288489

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Offline CollGrad08

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2008, 10:17:36 PM »
Flu like symptoms one weekend, nausea, headache, fatigue, no vomitting.  Sick all week, worse during the week then turned into neck pain and pain in my eyes.  Went to the ER thinking it was Meningitis.  Hospital gave me spinal tap and told me it looked like viral meningitis then asked me to consent to a HIV test and two weeks later at my follow up appt my doctor told me I was positive.

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Offline mpls_apple

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2008, 09:33:31 PM »
My seroconversion actually happened a year before i was actually diagnosed as being hiv positive.

I had been sick for over two weeks with a high fever, it stayed at around 101-102 even with taking huge doses of tylenol, I was working a double shift at the prison and i told my LT. i had to leave and couldnt stay. i went to the dr and they ran test after test after test on me. In the end they diagnosed me with CMV...but hiv negitive.  The dr's were puzzled because CMV in adults is extremely rare, usually only occuring in people with compromised immune systems.

A year later i took a hiv test and it came back positive.  My Dr think's that my CMV episode was actually the hiv going through my body but it didnt show up at that time...

Now 3.5 years from the initial CMV i am overall doing well. No meds as of yet.  I had one huge ordeal with MRSA staph infection on the back of my neck, which spread to my face where i had to have a plastic surgeon remove the build up of infection from my face...luckily i made it through this
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Offline jennynyc7

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #65 on: September 05, 2008, 03:08:02 PM »
Hi apple,

Yeah I had CMV and Epstein-Barr virus' although the Dr's feel they were not active.
12/24/07-infected
1/3/08-ARS began
2/12/08-diagnosed
Initial Vl=99000
CD4=585
2/14/08-began Truvada/Reyataz/Norvir
3/01/08=Swapped Reyataz for Viramune
5/1/08:     vl= undetectable
                cd4=1250
10/24/08:  vl=undetectable
                cd4=1172 (55%)

12/4/08:    vl=254 (hopefully just a small blip)
                cd4=1234

Offline mpls_apple

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2008, 07:13:10 PM »
Hey back Jenny...yeah i don't ever want to go through that again...
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Offline HivToTell

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2008, 01:15:41 PM »
I think I had no symptoms, or I can’t remember having any. I can’t be sure how long I have been HIV+, but it was found out few weeks ago while having some other problems. Few years ago I had low fever and some flu symptoms. I don’t know if that was it, or was it just flu… you know, sometimes flu is just a flu ;-)
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Offline alberche

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2008, 06:37:12 PM »
I'm curious as to why your doctor wanted to start you on meds with such high CD4's.

Dear Betty, because starting so soon helps to keep your inmune system in good shape -or in a better one-  in the long term. Nowadays, 2 and a half years after, I am above 1.600 CD4 and no viral load, and no other major complaints apart from common digestive issues related to meds and triglycerides a bit over 200 mg in my blood tests. (I am on Truvada+Reyataz+Norvir)

The initial idea of my doctor was to start at that moment, very soon, and then, six months or one year after, stop meds and wait and see what happenned. But, some months after I started with meds, a multinational study, a part of which they were conducting at the hospital, in Barcelone, showed that stopping meds, even if started a few days or weeks after the moment of infection, will lead to a quick viral rebound.

(Now doctors are re-thinking this idea and planning to start in these cases of very soon diagnosis with very agressive treatment combos, including transcriptase, protease, integrase and entry inhibitors, which may lead in a part of people to the possibility of stopping meds a few months after and then staying in a stable condition during lots of years, maybe for a lifetime... I hope they could achieve this goal someday, because this will be usefull also to find new approaches for the rest of people (a big majority) who had not such an earlier diagnosis)

So, she told me at that point that, I could choose stopping, what would mean a viral rebound and then a situation similar to not having been on meds, but probably with a slowlier disease progression that if I actually haven't took the meds, or keeping on meds and seeing how well or bad my body will cope with secondary effects. I choosed to keep on meds and I do not regret this decision at all.

Anyway, in the term of two or three years from now I would have to start anyway... as there's more and more evidence that it is much better to start soon with meds than waiting until the 300 or 350 CD4 limit.

In addition, and I reckon this is a very personal issue, I feel released having started meds. I don't know if I could cope with the idea of waiting, and waiting, and waiting during some years while seeing my inmune system and my body deteriorating without doing nothing but wait... to get to the point of starting meds, and coping with side effects as well, but from quite a worst starting point.

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Offline Sweet_C

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2008, 03:21:57 AM »
I had no symptoms whatsoever.  I had my routine PAP and my doctor found trich.  I decided to get an STD test.  At that time I was just worried about herpes, and had no real symptoms of that either.  I knew it was HIV when he called me to come in instead of giving my results over the phone.
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Offline Tar Heel

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2008, 08:15:19 PM »
Summer of 2005.  I knew I had done some risky/stupid sexual stuff in the spring.   I began running a fever, swollen lymph nodes and so tired I couldn't complete a shower.  I went to my MD, he drew blood (I told him of my risky behavior) and it came back HIV-.  But my platelets were dangerously low.  So he sent me to a Hematologist thinking I had leukemia.  The Hematologist drew a HIV viral load which came back over 200K.

But there was no diarrhea, no GI upset and no rash.  Strange how differently people react to the virus.
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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2008, 11:54:03 AM »
I dont remember having any kind of illness during this past 2 years. Always felt fine.
15/11/06: HIV-
28/10/08: HIV +
- No Meds -
18/11/08: CD4 -650 (.......)  / -17.500 VL
01/03/09: CD4- 540 (19,6%) / - 2090 VL
17/07/09: CD4 -603 (20,1%) / - 5040 VL
27/10/09: CD4 -627 (21,5%) / - 10.896 VL
25/03/10: CD4 -609 (23,9%) / -11.602 VL
12/09/10: CD4 -555 (........) / - 55.500 VL
21/04/11: CD4 -466 (17%)   / - 50.339 VL
01/10/11: CD4 -375 (19%)   / - 73.058 VL

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01/02/12: CD4 -298 (23%)   / - undetectable

Offline 072508

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2008, 07:02:13 PM »
night one, went out and drank.
night two, went out and drank.
night three, went out and drank.
night four, felt tired, kinda sore, went out and drank.
night five, tired, sore, swollen nodes, went out and drank.

the next morning i could barely move without hurting, thought i was just dehyrated from drinking so much. flu like symptoms, diarrhea, very tired, very sore, sore throat, hearing kinda came and went, i was on the phone at work and was typing what i was hearing and i skipped half the words cause i couldnt make them out of what they were saying.

i thought i was just sick from going out so much and not getting a lot of sleep. was going on for about 5 days after my nights out. got better and figured it was just from going out so much. i gave blood at work in late june and they said, And if theres a problem you will get a call and if you dont then we will see you in october for the blood drive. i got sick but never got a call so i thought i was fine. i was sick the week of july 14, got a voice mail july 23, didnt call them back till the 24th, demanded they tell me what it was over the phone, they wouldnt. went on the 25th of july and they said it came back + for two tests and the western blot was pending. i called an ID dr 7/28 and got blood drawn that day and saw they 2 weeks later.

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2008, 04:10:29 PM »
Sudden photophobia quickly followed by severe headaches and muscle aches that lasted several days. Mild to no fever, no digestion problems. Felt better but had painful esophagus ulcers, and rash. 

It was the worst headache of my life. I was totally averse to sunlight for weeks. Thought I was becoming a vampire.

Docs saw me three times at a good clinic with unknown flu diagnosis and specifically no suspicion of HIV.


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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2008, 04:35:40 PM »
like many...it started with what i thought was a really bad flu. but more severe and longer lasting. i had extreme fatigue(lasted  a few months), couldn't sleep at night for more than 15-20 minutes at a time, night sweats, sore tongue, diahrrea, lost 15+ pounds, muscle joint aches, constant headache - even my 'hair hurt' :) .  after a week or so went to doctor - bloodtest confirmed HIV+. he sent me to ID clinic: first bloodwork  VL >750,000  CD4 310 (April '08)  started on meds Sept '08.

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2009, 09:06:21 PM »
Is, the only thing I really remember about my serconversion was a lymph node on my neck that swelled out the size of a golfball.  But we're all different.


May I ask what does serconversion? New to this and don't understand everything.

Thanks

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #76 on: January 07, 2009, 05:24:25 AM »
Hello Mello, welcome to the forums. :)

Seroconversion is the name for the process the body goes through when producing antibodies, in this case, antibodies for hiv. To break the word down, sero means blood, as in "serum", and conversion means change. The blood changes from testing hiv-antibody negative to hiv-antibody positive.

With hiv, this typically begins to happen around two weeks after the virus has entered the body. The average time for enough antibodies to be produced in order to be detected on an ELISA (hiv antibody) test is 22 days. The vast majority of people who have been infected will produce enough antibodies to be detected by six weeks after the introduction of the virus into the body.

When the body makes antibodies, certain chemicals are produced that can cause a person to feel like they have the flu. It isn't actually the virus itself that causes the illness, but rather the body's reaction to the presence of the virus.

NOT ALL PEOPLE experience any symptoms of seroconversion. I know far more positive people who never noticed any symptoms than people who felt ill.

Hope that clears things up a bit for you. If you have any additional questions, don't be shy - ask.

Ann


PS - an antibody is a protein produced by a specific type of white blood cell. The immune system uses antibodies to recognise and fight against foreign invaders into the body - such as a bacteria or virus.
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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2009, 04:37:33 PM »
Around 6 weeks after my risky exposure I had many ARS's (fever, swollen lymph node, very bad leg pain and headache). Fever lasted for 1 week and the others a few days.
7 months after the exposure I developed oral hairy leukoplakia on my tongue and pnemonia (long disease) caused by yeast infection of the gullet which spreads to the longs.
It's a bit dramatic or weird that I still (after 7 months) test negative with antibody testing but my doctors have diagnosed me with two characteristic ARC (PCP-Pneumocystis pneumonia and oral hairy leukoplakia which is unfortunately biospy proven) which are specific to HIV positive persons.
I have also been informed that the sensitivity of antibody testing is never 100% so I am one of the million cases which experiences such an uncommon situation.
The worse thing is that I can not get medicines for anti-retroviral therapy 'cause I test negative for HIV.
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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2009, 07:54:03 AM »
viktor:

This forum is strictly for people who have tested postive for HIV -- you clearly have not and therefore have not been diagnosed with HIV infection.

If you're still concerned about HIV testing, although I don't think this is necessary as you've tested negative well beyond the window period, you should limit your comments to our "Am I Infected?" forum. And for what it's worth, oral hairy leukoplakia is not specific to HIV-positive people, regardless of whether or not it is "biopsy proven." As for what you're calling PCP, I seriously doubt this in the absence of a positive HIV antibody test and extremely low CD4+ cell count.

A positive antibody test, evidence of HIV-RNA in your blood and a falling CD4+ cell count would be evidence of your leukoplakia being HIV-related. Instead of putting random pieces together to draw your own conclusion about what ails you, I suggest a more complete workup with your doctor.

Please don't post in anything other than that "Am I Infected?" forum again. You've been warned.

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Offline mpositive

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2009, 09:34:51 PM »
I went thru the Acute HIV stage, well, actually still going thru it.  It began for me the first week of Nov. 08, kept ending up in the emergency room from dehydration.  Had so much diarrhea.  The stupid hospital kept sending me home after a few hours of fluids.  Plus I had tremendous pain in my gut.  After a while, a month later, I ended up in a different hospital.  I had CMV Colitis.....my entry to HIV.  The first hospital misdiagnosed me with Mono....lol....at 41 years old?  Anyhow, started with 300k VL and a CD4 count of 1290.  Now I am at CD4 584 and VL>100k.  So....my story.

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Re: how was your "seroconversion"?
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2009, 05:23:32 PM »
Gosh, everyone's answer is completely different.  I have to say, mine was AWFUL.  I was sick as a dog.  My lymph nodes were so swollen, extremely sore throat, fever 103-104 for over a week.  It's finally pretty much at bay, but whoa Jack!
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-Infected 1/6/2009
Positive 2/9/2009
3/8/2009:  CD4 603  VL f\'d up by lab and having to redraw
4/7/2009 CD4 650 VL 348
6/24/2009 cd4 964 VL 850
9/26/2009 CD4 546 VL 822
7/22/13 CD4 1080 VL 2,220

 


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