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May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« on: February 13, 2008, 09:33:57 AM »
I had unexpected and unprotected oral and vaginal sex with a female acquaintance of unknown HIV status. 4 Dec.

It was her period. I used to have a genital piercing (Prince Albert) which has not had a ring in it for 15 yrs or more. She confided after that she is a sex worker with only a couple of clients. HEr telling me woried me as she didn't need to tell me that unless she was trying to tell me something else without saying it. She had a lot of multivitamins and supplements around the house zinc, selenium, milk thistle, ginger, lemon and other herbal teas which at the time made me think she was health concious. Now in retrospect it makes me think there is something wrong with her health particularly as she says some of it is for her immune system and antioxidants to help her glands. I'm thinking high risk.

I was quite certain she was pos and had disclosure issues so I went to the GU clinic the next day and requested PEP but was sent away. I only got to see the nurse and she said it was expensive (500 pounds), wouldn't necessarily work and reserved for people who got needlestick injuries or if someone was raped by a black man.

I put it out my head but a few weeks later various things flared up: (papular rash with a few flat marks, throat infection, lymph node swelling and unusual muscle aches and frozen carpal & tarsal joints) all which resolved a week and a half later. I know they are non-specific.
After a couple of weeks with only lymph swelling and loose stools both continue (neck, legs, arms occasionally groin) I have had headaches at night with soreness from light, creepy crawly feelings on my legs along with muscle twitches, loose stools.  I have a new rash clusters of tiny papules which the doctor found on the 63 day test and prescribe Ketconazole shampoo for.
I still have persistent node swelling.

I'd a full STD/STI check 31 Dec (day 28) (HIV1&2 by ELISA, unknown generation) Positive for Chlamydia (now treated, was  painful 4.5 weeks post exposure) Negative everything else inc HIV 1&2.

HIV Test day (58) ELISA unknown gen Negative (double booked appointment)
HIV Test 4 Feb (day 63) initial rapid test by Biolytical INSTI
Blood taken and sent for analysis on a machine that incorporates p24 and HIV 1 & 2 antibody tests in one. I think it was called a DUO. All Negative

The person I had the exposure with maintains she is negative said she was checked for all STDs/STIs on 8 Jan and all follow up results negative 9 after her treatment for Chlamydia, which she denies she had. She's now oddly enough become depressed and is talking of going back home to S America.

I'll test at the end of the month / 12.5 weeks. I've got fairly used to the idea that I might be positive and have been looking into the adjustments I need to make.

1) Should I see a non-HIV/STD Doctor (next appt 22nd) about persistent lymph node pain in parotids, neck, back of knee and groin in case it is anything serious like cancer or should I wait for my 3 month test and subsequent results in a few weeks time.

2) Is there anything else I could have caught off her that would be giving me lymph node problems seeing as she seems to have a similar problem? HTLV? Is that sexually transmitted? Is that just another name for HIV?

3 Since symptoms resolved by about 33 days post-exposure and new symptoms deleoped c. 40 days post exposure, could I be in symptomatic early HIV disease now.

4 If I have been in early symptomatic HIV by day 40 wouldn't antibodies have shown by day 63?

5 I was drinkig the night before the 63 day test and the night before that. I haven't seen anytwhere that this could affect the test. Alcohol does lower the immune system though? Would it affect the production of HIV antibodies?

6 The nurse doing the 63 day rapid said it was negative. Then he said it as the test was reactive they still need to send blood away. One of the Docs explained that he had meant something else, it was a mistake and everything was negative.
They are surely obliged to return a negative even if the rapid showed positive until a confimation is done (As they can only diagnose than) so it might mean positive?

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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 09:38:37 AM »
I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely worried and haven't been able to see a G.U. Doctor or my own Doctor.

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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 11:54:01 AM »
Frank,

Calm down. Your nine week negative result is highly unlikely to change. The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. If your symptoms had anything to do with hiv, you would have tested indeterminate, at the very least, by now.

You need to learn from this experience and use condoms no matter who you're with. I can't help but wonder if you'd be this worried if you didn't know she was a sex worker. ANYBODY can end up hiv positive. I did and I'm not a sex worker.

As for the nurse's incorrect and racist remarks concerning PEP you chose to bring here - well, all I can say is my jaw dropped when I read it. We do not tolerate racist comments here and you'd do well to remember that. In the UK, PEP may be initiated following needle-stick injury, rape by an unknown assailant (no matter what colour the rapist may be), or when there has been receptive unprotected intercourse with a person KNOWN to be hiv positive. You don't fall into any of these categories.

Test again at twelve weeks and collect what I fully expect to be another negative result.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 06:11:35 PM »
Many thanks Ann for your reply,

I hope it doesn't change too, except the bit where he said 'reactive' .

Ye, her telling me she and her husband are SWs did ring alarm bells. I wouldn't be so worried if she was just out of a marriage as I percived rather than her and her estranged husband being sex workers doing couples and her no longer working for an agency. I was quite disappointed obviously and that she chose to confide in me after we had sex. I wouldn't have judged her but I would have used my judgement better. I don't blame her it's my responsibilty at the end of the day to protect myself.

Those were the triage nurse's words to me, I was just quoting her. I was shocked and angered by them as well. I'm most certainly not racist, homophobic or sexist. <identifying text snipped>

When I saw the Doctor on a later occasion who refused to discuss my lymph swelling and weight loss (despite eating more) etc she scoffed at me presenting with a minor rash and a sore throat. She said it's mostly homosexuals, injecting drug users and people who have moved here from Africa who test positive in my city. I couldn't believe a Doctor from a GU clinic would be telling such mistruths*. Also asked if I used the 'contact' in a brothel, a steamhouse or something. I was flat broke, i'd not even money for food how could I have had money for escorts? That makes me angry that my medical records have false information. When I corrected her she said she was not judging me. It sounded pretty much like the triage nurse was judging me because I wasn't the victim of a sexual assuslt or an accident at work. Obviously the nurse who triaged me didn't listen to a word I said or just didn't record it in the risk assessment.

*A published research article by the public health department here shows a very different story. Though there are a significant proportion of Africans infected (most are late presenters and often diagnosed with AIDS along with their HIV+ diagnosis dispeling the myth that 'they come here for treatment', the majority are heterosexuals and IDU infections have sloped off due to needle exchange programmes.   

The BASHH guidelines for PEPSE say for the possible exposure I had it is 'considered' even if Unknown as she and her husband are from high prevalence areas and he is an escort as well. There are quite alot of HIV+ people I know attend the events I know her from, mainly from South Africa and Brazil though that's not a factor in the PEPSE guideline..

The BASHH guidlines say that anyone attending a GU clinic should be offered an HIV test irrespective of risk, presence or lack of symptoms. This is because so many people do not come back and some are unknowingly infected. The drive is to have as many people know their status. I was told it was low risk and was sent away -someone irresponsible hearing that my well go and disappear unknowlingy infecting others.

She sent me away one time before I went for an HIV test arranged by THT and when I went in on the arranged day to collect meds for the Chlamydia (she was bloody rude to me as well that time).

I mentioned all this to the THT Direct helpline and National AIDS Trust and they recommended I make a complaint. <identifying text snipped>
Thanks again for your response.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2008, 08:57:49 AM by Frank303 »

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 07:18:50 PM »
Frank,

You have come up against the stigma that many of us face and that stigma unfortunately often comes from those within the medical profession. I'd make that complaint if I were you. Your cousin shouldn't come into the equation.

By the way, I live on the Isle of Man and if you wanna talk hiv ignorance in the medical profession... I could write a book. The only way to combat this is to speak up.

The bottom line here for you - regardless of the mistaken mention of "reactive" - is that your nine week negative is highly unlikely to change. You were unlikely to become infected from this one encounter to begin with. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus, and more so from a woman to a man. (yes, I read about your PA and various details) I was with my ex-partner a year and a half before I got my diagnosis and he was negative, despite us not using condoms. We stayed together another six and a half years and when we split, he was still hiv negative.

I do not expect your result to change at the twelve week point. Neither should you.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 10:00:11 PM »
Thanks,

I think I will give that feedback. I'm quite the activist for others just won't speak up for myself much.

I've a bit of feedback for the A&E too. I had 2 needlestick injuries in the space of a week or two back in 2003. I was working for a property services mob renovating flats and one was in a rubbish bag (clean) the other was in a letterbox, I checked for the keys and got a needle in my finger. I went to A&E. All they did was HIV test me (because I put the stringe in a sharps box and didn't know which one it was).  PEP was available then, even my supervisor told me the next morning they should have initiated it.
 
The onset of my 'symptoms' was xmas eve. GUM clinic was shut, THT was shut, GP was shut. I just wanted them verified or something wasn't quite sure what I expected really.

After  the people hanging round the reception finally dispersed I thought it was safe to approiach and say what I had to say without being overheard. "Oh you've been doing something you shouldn't have then" was the reply. There's some truth in that as I knew the risks and have even lectured others but would she say that to is someone injured in an accident drink driving, in a street brawl, a smoker with acute respiratory trouble, someone in a scuba accident, someone who crossed the road without looking?

My GP and the practice nurse have been fine, told them I had a 'risk', seemed to make sense so not prescibed anything contraindicated - just in case. I registered with a new dentist and declared a possible risk and had a tooth extracted. Maybe that was just luck, I know many positive people face a lot of stigma in settings like that and it's hard enough for the virally-deficient to find a dentist.

Some drunk in the kebab shop queue started punching and kicking me on Saturday night because I  asked the guy who was serving me who I know to heat up the 'meat' (or whatever that fatty substance is they put in kebabs). It's not such a strange request and I was polite about it but I'd imagine food hygeine issues when out and about could be challenging for Pos people, parrticularly here in the UK where we're encouraged not make a fuss and be less vocal about stuff like that.

Hope all this not the start of my own book on HIV igorancce.

It's good your partner stuck around. I've read quite a few positive stories about magnetic couples (relationships being my biggest worry after money) it's helped me through those  moments of negativity.

I've spoken with a few mates about my situation.
I'll discount the one who said that if I test + which can take up to 2 years no one would want to speak to me, I'd have to take my own cups everywhere and not be able to share from a bottle because the virus lives outside the body for ten minutes in spit.  ::)My boss overheard that and me putting him straight.
Another thinks I'm crazy for keeping in touch with the girl I was with, they said I should be speaking to the police ASAP (which achieves exactly what?). I haven't even had my test results yet!
Well, apart from them they've been OK.

Aye, sorry, yabbering on about stigma, so I was.

Yes I will change my behaviour. I've pre-packed every bag and suitcase, the pockets of every jacket I own with the necessary to make sure I'm not caught short again, particularly when I'm away.
Another good thing that has come out of this is I have cleaned up a bit (weekend drinking ..) though still having limited success on the smoking cessation, though the nurse did say it's probably not a good time.

Yeah I understand the stats are stacked on my side. Only two weeks now.


A mate Ben has just returned to IoM, Port Erin I think, after finishing Uni here, he can't wait to get to London, a few months of island life have been enough for him.

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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 11:11:46 PM »
It sounds like you have used this experience to take some good steps for yourself. Well done.

Like Ann I do expect you will continue to test negative.

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 05:13:25 AM »
Frank,

Make sure those pre-packed condoms are well within their use-by date - and check out all three condom and lube links in my signature line.

For the record, PEP wasn't warranted when you had those needle-sticks back in '03. It's only warranted in a medical setting where the accident happens directly after the needle has been in a patient. Hiv will not remain viable when it's been lying around in a mailbox or whatever. Even in the medical profession, there's only been 100 something cases in the world, to date, of transmission happening this way.

I fully expect you to continue to test negative.

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 07:18:31 AM »
Had a look at the links, thanks.

I checked the date before I packed them. Non latex (synthetic resin AT10) ones are only dated until the end of the year.
They come in a neat credit card sized dispenser pack which is wallet safe so unlikely to forget it and unlikely they will be damaged.
It's a shame regular latex condoms don't come in such packs as they are prone to damage in people's pockets, wallets and bags.

Backed up with long-dated latex ones. Though I'm allergic (I'd a rash on my hands which I managed to transfer to my feet for 6 weeks due to non-powder gloves  ) I'd rather put up with a latex rash than get any other type. They are safe from damage in plastic condom cases too so won't get damaged in packing or transit in my bags.

I ususally always carried with me anyway even when I'm not sexually active just in case. That time I had to hurry to catch a coach and I never packed a lot of stuff I needed.

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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 06:16:07 AM »
A couple of days ago I started getting pins and needles in my left foot.
I went to the optician in the afternoon, due to increased floaters, headaches, photophobia a couple of weeks ago. they took a fundus photo of each retina.

The Optometrist said there was a problem, something to do with the diameter of an inner band being wider or narrower than normal. Can't recall what she said the problem was just that she was very serious and to stop smoking now.

Both arms (to the biceps) and both legs (to the thighs) have pins and needles now and back of the head. Should I need to see a Doctor today or should i wait until my appt Friday?

Sorry for the aditional post, it's hard getting to see a Doctor here.

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2008, 07:41:41 AM »
Frank,

Considering your pins and needles and what your optometrist told you, it sounds as though you have a circulatory problem. You need to see your GP about this ASAP - and if you can't get to your GP, go to your nearest A&E. Seriously.

It's nothing to do with hiv and I still fully expect you to continue to test negative.

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2008, 08:35:38 AM »
May well be circulatory, I do always feel the cold.

I phoned NHS 24. Spoke with a nurse and she said to get myself to a doc immediately, there's a 24/7 practice here she even arranged transport, though I got a lift from my sister.
I'm just back I've to go to the opticians get them to write what was wrong on my retinal Fundus photos (which I gave a copy of to my own GP yesterday) he'll call me 16:00 and I've to pass on the explanation to him and I'll write it down this time.
Typical - go to the doctors and I forget historical symptoms and current symptoms go away - though still had PN my left foot wasn't so numb when I was there but it is now again that I've got home!  ::)
He said it was probably post-viral fatigue (aye but what virus?) as my throat still slightly inflamed, to take some Ibuprofen and paracetamol and to keep away from stress. At least he examined my nodes, said they were normal not inflamed.

As far as HIV he said it takes several months to show up in tests and to test again in 4 months (i.e. 6 month mark).

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 09:17:26 AM »
I see you're still fishing around in HIV country, and all to no good purpose.

Your doctor is wrong. The CDC is quite conservative in this matter and has for a long time recommended 3 months as a reliable testing point. The exceptions are situations which involve intravenous drug use or a severely collapsed immune system such as when being treated for cancer. Neither of which I hasten to say apply to you.

Your symptoms have nothing which in any way suggest ARS or are HIV-related.

A negative at 13 weeks will be quite sufficient for you. Really.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 09:20:43 AM »
Frank,

Not all doctors are up to date on the hiv window period. It has been twelve weeks in the UK for several years now. You don't need to test at six months and I STILL fully expect your twelve week conclusive result to be negative.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2008, 02:55:02 PM »
Andy, Ann I'm not in a high prevalence area so I don't expect a general practitioner to be up on HIV testing so I'm still going with the GU clinic advice - 3 months (88th day to be specific).

Back to the optometrist today as the Doctor said and she said it was all fine - big cups normal rims. She said I was at risk of Glaucoma (my grandmother was blind from it and I thought my mother but my sister said today it was cataracts) to keep eye checks every second year, last one was two years ago. Her seriousness was about the smoking and the glaucoma risk. Never told her I was a heavy drinker.
As far as I'm concerned  I'm going to take the three month test and run with it.

The Doctor did telephone me and said there's nothing ominous. <small sigh of relief>

Thanks for the replies.

EDIT: pins and needles on my chest and back now. ::)
Oh and he said to get other blood tests via my Doctor, Iron, but not sure what else.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2008, 07:10:06 AM by Frank303 »

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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2008, 05:08:30 PM »
Followed up with my GP today for differential diagnoses on advice of GUM clinic I attended here, the Gu clinic in London I attended and Dr Hook. All said it was unlikely I had a new infection. Even the GUM clinic here who said they would only test me at 13 weeks are sadi that an infection would have shown by day 60.

As only the tests will tell I'll still test post 12 weeks. Probably well into 13th week now.

Went to my GP today who agrees, he's seen lots of ARS cases and self DXed 'I've definitely got ARS' cases as he was an HIV Doctor in London before going into general practice and he did check out my symptoms.

So my own GP has ordered appropriate blood tests (HIV, STIs, Iron and whatever else) I've just to book an appointment post-window-period with the nurse and she'll take blood. It'll be 13 weeks now as I'll be working late all this week  but at least my GP has accessible hours, the GU clinic Doctors can access my medical records at the GP surgery so if need be I can go to the GU for my results, though I think the follow up at my GPs would be better.
I took the Online Doc's advice and got myself some Fluoxetine for anxiety/depression/OCD/hypochondriasis.

Ann I think you could be right on the poor circulaton, my veins are normal size now after some iron supplements, they were tiny the weekend.

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2008, 12:55:30 PM »
I had a test yesterday at 92 days. The clinic called today to say everything is negative.

Many Thanks Ann and Andy.

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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2008, 02:00:05 PM »
Congratulations on that happy result!

Now you can get on with your life.

AND most importantly, you can have  as much sex as you like with anyone regardless of their HIV status, as long as you do it the safer way and always without exception wear a condom when you have intercourse. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Good luck to you.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 03:56:55 AM »
The test I had here at 13 weeks was a VIDAS EIA (3rd gen?), which is an older one than the VIDAS DUO. They will draft a letter with negative results
 
As I said, my Doctor at week 10 or so when I went to find a differential diagnosis said he'd organise blood tests to find out what was causing the (ARS and PN like) symptoms, but that I would have to make an appointment after 12 weeks.

I telephoned him with the 13 week negative result in case it changed the tests he originally ordered (he didn't tell me what they were).
He now says he wants to do an HIV test again 'just to recheck the results'!!

I can't understand why I'd need to test beyond my 13 week test.

I'd rather do any HIV tests through the GU clinic for confidentiality but they have said they tested me up to the guidelines and can do no more for me. I could still go to a GU clinic elsewhere, e.g. the one I went to in London if I don't ask them about the conclusiveness of the 13 week neg.

But

In the event that I do have the virus (in my follow up with the contact her status has moved from no to probably) and am really slow at producing antibodies are there any tests in the UK that would be able to be used in a diagnosis?
Would being really slow at producing antibodies mean that I am a rapid progressor and would go on meds sooner? I'd rather know quicker by any means so I can get treatment and my affairs in order.

My weight loss is getting quite disturbing despite my efforts to maintain my weight. My face is looking gaunt, neck, wrists, ankles are thinner, chest definition is well gone, the pads on my hands have folds on them.

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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 04:37:53 AM »
So let's look at the facts here Frank.

You had unprotected vaginal sex 3+ months ago. You had an HIV antibody test performed at the end of the window period. The result was negative.

Congratulations! You are not HIV positive.

Now, I'm not sure why your doctor wants to test you again, but it's not necessary. The test used in your case (3rd gen ELISA) is perfectly accurate when used correctly and it's been used correctly in your case.

You should probably take the hint from the people at the GUM clinic. They can't test you any further because you have reliably and conclusively tested negative for HIV as a result of this sexual encounter. They have limited resources and you don't need any more testing.

They're the specialists when it comes to HIV/AIDS, not your doctor. Many GPs are not as informed about HIV testing issues as they should be.

I'm sorry to hear that you're losing weight, but that has nothing to do with HIV. You should take those matters up with your doctor.

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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2008, 10:42:50 AM »
Sorry to post again...

What would be a suitable donation to THT (Terrence Higgins Trust) be, in lieu of the tests I've had (6) - all on the (publically funded) NHS? I've popped into the office heaps of times but the guy always seems to be not there ... or hiding from me.

I had a rapid test (INSTI) on Tuesday at just over 5 months as it was recommended by the clinic due to my lymph nodes (parotids, iniguals, occipitals, popliteals) still being paiful (no I didn't poke them), my sleep schedule and possibly as I named the contact who is a patient at the clinic (she's +ve, not on meds yet).

Complaints process is a bit rubbish (in respect of  remarks made by the health advisor, accusation I use prostitutes and general attitude I'm not gay, African or an IDU so low risk), I've to go through the PCT, confidentiality is gone and no doubt they'll pull ranks.
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Re: May have HIV though 8.5 week test is negative (and 'reactive')
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2008, 11:11:13 AM »
Frank,

It's your money and we can't tell you how much of it to spend. Donate whatever your conscience leads you to donate.

I haven't a clue what you're wanting to complain about. You're hiv negative and you should be happy about that. Make sure you use condoms from now on and you'll stay hiv negative. It really is that simple.

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