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I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« on: February 07, 2008, 10:18:41 AM »
read this NY Times article and make sure you click on "more photos" under the first photo of the article.

I have it on good authority that both Lagerfeld and Slimane eat baby food to stay thin... obviously something for us all to ponder.  I knew I was on to something 6 years ago when my 6 ft. frame shrunk down to 142 pounds and I was wearing a size 48.  I have this entire "wasted wardrobe" (no pun intended) that I can't now wear and really think I should throw it all up on eBay.



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CREDIT Hedi Slimane or blame him. The type of men Mr. Slimane promoted when he first came aboard at Dior Homme some years back (he has since left) were thin to the point of resembling stick figures; the clothes he designed were correspondingly lean. The effects of his designs on the menís wear industry were radical and surprisingly persuasive. Within a couple of seasons, the sleekness of Dior Homme suits made everyone elseís designs look boxy and passť, and so designers everywhere started reducing their silhouettes.

Then a funny thing happened. The models were also downsized. Where the masculine ideal of as recently as 2000 was a buff 6-footer with six-pack abs, the man of the moment is an urchin, a wraith or an underfed runt.

Nowhere was this more clear than at the recent menís wear shows in Milan and Paris, where even those inured to the new look were flabbergasted at the sheer quantity of guys who looked chicken-chested, hollow-cheeked and undernourished. Not altogether surprisingly, the trend has followed the fashion pack back to New York

Wasnít it just a short time ago that the industry was up in arms about skinny models? Little over a year ago, in Spain, designers were commanded to choose models based on a healthy body mass index; physicians were installed at Italian casting calls; Diane von Furstenberg, the president of the Council of Fashion Designers of America, and Anna Wintour, the editor of Vogue, called a conference to ventilate the issue of unhealthy body imagery and eating disorders among models.

The models in question were women, and itís safe to say that they remain as waiflike as ever. But something occurred while no one was looking. Somebody shrunk the men.

ďSkinny, skinny, skinny,Ē said Dave Fothergill, a director of the agency of the moment, Red Model Management. ďEverybodyís shrinking themselves.Ē

This was abundantly clear in the castings of models for New York shows by Duckie Brown, Thom Browne, Patrik Ervell, Robert Geller and Marc by Marc Jacobs, where models like Stas Svetlichnyy of Russia typified the new norm. Mr. Svetlichnyyís top weight, he said last week, is about 145 pounds. He is 6 feet tall with a 28-inch waist.

ďDesigners like the skinny guy,Ē he said backstage last Friday at the Duckie Brown show. ďIt looks good in the clothes and thatís the main thing. Thatís just the way it is now.Ē

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 10:55:53 AM »
Honey, drop that Fuzeon crack pipe and you'll get your wish. ;)

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 10:55:58 AM »
I need to pretend to have ADHD at my psychiatrist visits so I can score monthly amounts of Adderall -- that's just like Tina-In-A-Bottle and would totally keep me svelte.  I really want to get back down to a size 48 DESPERATELY.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 10:59:24 AM »
Honey, drop that Fuzeon crack pipe and you'll get your wish. ;)

I have about 3 months excess of that stuff which equals $9000... wish I could hock it in the hood.  I wonder what would happen if I snorted it?
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 11:01:11 AM »
read this NY Times article and make sure you click on "more photos" under the first photo of the article.

I have it on good authority that both Lagerfeld and Slimane eat baby food to stay thin... obviously something for us all to ponder. 



I am 5'9" and have been trying to put on some pounds for about 12 years.  Last month, my weight increased to 150 lbs and I thought Oh, goody, goody, another 5 lbs to go to the "ideal weight" and all of a sudden, another 5 lbs were lost.  It brings to mind something I have always thought...  First, I'm too fat, then, I'm too thin... then I'm blond and then brunette, I have always wanted to look like Elizabeth Taylor, and now I do  ;D Have the best day
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 11:56:35 AM »
I should start donating 70 cents a day to feed the models.  Somebody call Sally Struthers!!!  I always knew I was too short to model being 5'7", but now at 145# I'm too fat, as well.  Eesh.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 12:20:03 PM »
::GASP!::

It's February already!  You haven't started your pre-summer med holiday slim down?!

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2008, 12:53:47 PM »
I've plumped up a bit since getting over that nasty PCP back in Dec '06.  I rebounded from 162lbs when I got out of the hospital to 182lbs now.  At 5'10" and a pretty muscular build, I'm not really fat, but it's not where I'd like to be.  My Dr. seems to think it's better to be a bit heavier than skinnier when dealing with HIV... maybe so, but it sure doesn't do much for appearances, existing wardrobes, etc. 

Oh, and Philly, I have Adderall (and ADHD).  After a while, it doesn't do a whole lot to help the weight thing.  I can take one and still get the munchies right away.  At first is kept the appetite away.  It was like I could take or leave food.  Lately, I've been having munchies from hell, especially at night.  All this and I've not been partaking of anything that should induce munchies.  It's still a lovely medication to have and does help me function day to day.  It probably does keep my metabolism up a bit, which helps somewhat with the weight, I'm sure.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2008, 01:19:16 PM »
OMG, I need to go to the pharmacy to get some citrate of magnesium so I can drop some lbs.  I'm about 15 lbs overweight (for my liking anyway).  The problem is that stuff is so horrible to get down.  I had to drink that a couple years ago for some medical test. 

I do remember having that wasting and being a size 1 when it was tres chic and getting glares from other girls when I would clothes shop.  Oh, how I mourn my old body.  *sighs and eats another brownie*
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2008, 01:29:42 PM »
What is citrate of magnesium?  That's a new one for me.  Does it really make one lose weight?

I really should just join a gym, but that's $$$ -- plus I'll get teh MRSA :)
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2008, 01:37:45 PM »
but it sure doesn't do much for appearances, existing wardrobes, etc. 


weellll, depends on who you ask!   :)

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2008, 01:39:19 PM »
Citrate of magnesium is usually found in the laxative isle.  It is this awful tasting liquid that you drink that makes you shit your brains out.  The medical gods used to have a person do this like before a colonoscopy etc. 
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 01:42:28 PM »
No offense to anyone here but I find those guys completely unattractive.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 01:45:41 PM »
Citrate of magnesium is usually found in the laxative isle.  It is this awful tasting liquid that you drink that makes you shit your brains out.  The medical gods used to have a person do this like before a colonoscopy etc. 

Wouldn't that possibly interfere with the proper absorption of HIV meds?
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2008, 02:00:10 PM »
WOW,
I wish I could lose weight. I could gain weight from a tube feeding. I could lose a 100lbs and still be larger than those guys. My doc does not know how I keep the weight on, neither do I.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2008, 03:26:09 PM »
Oh no, it the invasion of the emaciated chickens!


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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2008, 04:16:48 PM »
No offense to anyone here but I find those guys completely unattractive.

I agree.
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2008, 04:18:38 PM »
I agree.

Not me.  I just KNOW those emaciated chickens are packing some serious dick.

Those little ones always are.  Fact of life.
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2008, 04:59:52 PM »
Not me.  I just KNOW those emaciated chickens are packing some serious dick.

Those little ones always are.  Fact of life.

I'm with you, Timmy. I've yet to meet a skinny boy that breaks the golden rule - skinny boy = big dick. fact of life #1
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2008, 05:08:06 PM »
Ugh, why would anyone want to look like a twig? When I was at my doctor's yesterday, it said my ideal weight should be 110 pounds. Uh, I gained 7 pounds and now weigh 171 but baby, I wear it well. ;) More cushion for th pushing, I say. I told my nurse if I weighed a buck ten that I would look like I was on crack.
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2008, 05:39:59 PM »
What is citrate of magnesium?  That's a new one for me.  Does it really make one lose weight?

I really should just join a gym, but that's $$$ -- plus I'll get teh MRSA :)

Magnesium citrate taste like lemony super salty water usually. I'm sure they have other flavors but the flavor doesn't help to make it any more yummy.   
It is Horrid! But it definitely will clean your colon out.
Castor oil also works but again, yuck!



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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2008, 06:53:41 PM »
Wouldn't that possibly interfere with the proper absorption of HIV meds?

I'm sure it does.  I only had to do it when I had a colonoscopy, which the doctor wanted me to have because of family history of colon cancer.  I wouldn't recommend drinking it for weight loss.  It's absolutey grueling.
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2008, 07:26:56 PM »
I'm with you, Timmy. I've yet to meet a skinny boy that breaks the golden rule - skinny boy = big dick. fact of life #1

Foxtrot Charlie has always been naturally thin. ;D Just sayin!

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2008, 07:40:21 PM »
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Foxtrot Charlie has always been naturally thin.  Just sayin!

Naughty girl, I would send you to your room but I just know you would take Foxtrot Charlie with you.. ;D

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2008, 08:01:45 PM »
Naughty girl, I would send you to your room but I just know you would take Foxtrot Charlie with you.. ;D

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2008, 09:04:12 PM »
No offense to anyone here but I find those guys completely unattractive.

I agree 100%. I like to grab a handful of muscle or skin whenever I reach out and touch...a few extra pounds do not bother me at all on someone. ::)
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2008, 09:10:04 PM »
Not me.  I just KNOW those emaciated chickens are packing some serious dick.

Those little ones always are.  Fact of life.

 That's because those little boys are underweight and their penises may seem to look bigger attached to a thin body!  ;)  There are exceptions, sometimes... ;D
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2008, 09:17:59 PM »
I'm not sure this is so new.  I had a friend around the year 2000 (sounds like a Sci Fi film intro doesn't it?) who was a model on the small scale.  What kept him from the big leagues (he always believed) was what he was told one year during a walk:

He was too American A&F and the new direction was European (aka slim without the definition) though I am sure at the time what is pictured above would have been considered too thin.  Alas, that is the world of models and what the five minutes of fame - it snowballs to the point of exaggerated horrors. 

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2008, 10:30:04 PM »
That's because those little boys are underweight and their penises may seem to look bigger attached to a thin body!  ;)  There are exceptions, sometimes... ;D

Yadda yadda yadda...blah blah blah. 

This ain't no smoke & mirrors or trick o' the light neither.  This queen knows big cock when he sees it.

Hmpfh.

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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2008, 10:36:35 PM »
From one who has had the opportunity to examine most - if not all - of NYC's men, and who is not in the least bit attracted to the svelte boi type agrees that Tim preaches the truth.


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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2008, 11:20:09 PM »
read this NY Times article and make sure you click on "more photos" under the first photo of the article.

I have it on good authority that both Lagerfeld and Slimane eat baby food to stay thin...

Please, please tell me you don't want to look like Lagerfeld.  He's the stuff nightmares are made of :o
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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2008, 11:31:57 PM »
I don't doubt the skinny/hung theory since there are people on here who have spent years gathering empirical data. Not being a size queen though I don't really care what they are packing. It is comforting to know that mother nature gave them something that you can hold on to.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2008, 11:33:42 PM »
I don't doubt the skinny/hung theory since there are people on here who have spent years gathering empirical data. Not being a size queen though I don't really care what they are packing. It is comforting to know that mother nature gave them something that you can hold on to.

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2008, 01:02:53 AM »
The question is. When can I lick his ass and fuck the hell out of him?

Milker.
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Offline Oceanbeach

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2008, 01:08:27 AM »
I should start donating 70 cents a day to feed the models.  Somebody call Sally Struthers!!!  I always knew I was too short to model being 5'7", but now at 145# I'm too fat, as well.  Eesh.

I have always wanted to attend the Sally Struthers School of Whining but my parents wanted me to go to Modeling School because I can undress and dress really fast.  I didn't learn that in Modeling School.  ;D Have the best day
Michael

Offline DCGUY2007

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Re: I need to go through another period of AIDS wasting
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2008, 02:48:00 AM »
Advertisements are always trying to do something different. Slim in today, buff in tomorrow. By the time we get it right the trend is on to something else.

Now excuse me I just ate and need to go throw up in the toilet.  :)

 


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