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Author Topic: Bit confused is it possible to reach undetectable without meds  (Read 1724 times)

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Offline NLEWLAD

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been chatting to a lad on a uk hook up site www.fitlads.net

and he tells me after 4 months his bloods are

 
cd4 754

vl - undetectable

but claimes he is poz
Simon - Location Manchester England
Negative test 10/11/07
Tested poz 28/12/07
Confirmed WB 07/01/08
Sero-converted Late December 07

Date        CD4            %              VL

7/01/08   1273 :)      N/A       100,232
24/01/08   755 :(      42%         4,010
13/2/08     922 :)      45%       78,234
09/04/08   652 :(      38%       36,604
05/05/08   936 :)      39%       38,952
07/07/08   844 :)      34%       24,000
12/11/08   753 :(      31%       45,600
no meds yet:)

Offline keyite

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Re: Bit confused is it possible to reach undetectable without meds
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 06:55:05 PM »
In short: yes, some people's immune systems are extremely good at containing the virus and may therefore have virus levels below detection. There is still virus there and they still have positive results if they take an HIV test (because it tests for antibodies). I also know someone - very lucky! - in this situation.

Offline OzPaul

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Re: Bit confused is it possible to reach undetectable without meds
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 07:47:06 PM »
Yes indeed, such people do exist. There are several folks here at the Forums, myself included.

While my outcome to date has been quite good, 27 years positive and healthy, there is no certainty that this will always be so. I count by blessings every day !

People such as myself are often referred to as 'long term non- progressors' ( LTNP's) and are sometimes called 'elite controllers' or 'HIV controllers'. There are many international studies that are looking at factors associated with this lack of disease progression and consistent undetectable status. Again, there are several Forum members  here, such as myself, that are in these studies.

Here are links to some of these studies

http://www.hivcontrollers.org/

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00029445?order=1

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00187512?order=3

Cheers
Paul

Offline NLEWLAD

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Re: Bit confused is it possible to reach undetectable without meds
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 06:58:12 AM »
thanks for that i will,  i just was puzzled and wondering if he was bug chasing

thats good so i can start to believe him now ;D
Simon - Location Manchester England
Negative test 10/11/07
Tested poz 28/12/07
Confirmed WB 07/01/08
Sero-converted Late December 07

Date        CD4            %              VL

7/01/08   1273 :)      N/A       100,232
24/01/08   755 :(      42%         4,010
13/2/08     922 :)      45%       78,234
09/04/08   652 :(      38%       36,604
05/05/08   936 :)      39%       38,952
07/07/08   844 :)      34%       24,000
12/11/08   753 :(      31%       45,600
no meds yet:)

 


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