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Offline Jerry71

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New Numbers
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:54:40 PM »
Just got my labs done last week and my CD4 went from 290 to 240 and my VL is still undectable.

Offline Dachshund

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 01:04:51 PM »
Undectable is what we want to continually shoot for Jerry. I have no doubt your CD4's will continue to climb. It took me years to get mine over 200.

Undetectable is cool!

Offline redhotmuslbear

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 01:33:14 PM »
Dips and spikes happen--the great news is that the virus remains contained.  Stress and loss could have taken a toll on your CD4s, too.  If there was a pattern of decline developing, not just two adjacent labs in isolation, one would hope that your doc would have intervened.

So, start looking forward to your next encounter with the lab needle, and keep yourself well.


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12-31-09   222wks VL  2430 CD4 690 (37%)
09-30-09   208wks VL  2050  CD4 925 (42%)
06-25-08   143wks VL  1359  CD4 668 (32%)  CD8 885
02-11-08   123wks off meds:  VL 1364 CD4 892(40%/0.99 ratio)
10-19-07   112wks off meds:   VL 292  CD4 857(37%/0.85 ratio)

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Offline ademas

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 02:18:39 PM »
man, Jerry, I remember those days.

It took me nearly 3 years to get over 200, and then quite a few more more years to get to a place where a drop of 50 CD4s's didn't cause some panic.

Congrats on the undetectable...that's the good news here.  Hang in there!

Offline John2038

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 03:38:37 PM »
Hi Jerry,

I just remember what newt said in another thread

CD4 count results can vary by +/- 50


Glad that you are undetectable  :)

Offline Blixer

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 04:24:59 PM »
The dips can be disappointing but like others have said, you are still undetectable.  That's the important thing.  You didn't mention the %.  Did it stay the same?  If the % was about the same then the dip is really meaningless all the way around.
Diagnosed 1/9/06
8/27/2007 CD4 598, 29%, VL 58 (72 wks)
11/19/2007 CD4 609, 30%, VL < 50 (84 wks)
2/11/2008 CD4 439, 27%, VL <50 (96 wks)
5/5/2008 CD4 535, 28%, VL <50 (108 wks)
10/20/2008 CD4 680, 28%, VL <50 (132 wks)
Changed to Atripla in 2012
1/14/2013 CD4 855, 35%, VL <40

Offline BT65

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 06:25:34 PM »
Jerry, glad you remain undetectable.  The dip in CD4s can have to do with any number of things.  I'm sure it will go back up. :-*
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Offline Iggy

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 06:32:23 PM »

I'm curious if what was the % vs. last time?

I can imagine the disappointment about the CD4 drop but I am glad the VL is Undetectable.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 07:13:11 PM »
Jerry it's totally understandable why your numbers may have dipped this time. As the stress lessons on you they'll start going back up. Just hang in there buddy. Don't fret it.


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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 08:15:59 PM »
Hi Jerry,  I'm glad to hear that you're undetectable, don't you worry about that CD4!

 :-*  Cindy
HIV+ since '93, 1/12 - CD4 785 and undet.   WOO-HOO!!

Offline AlanBama

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Re: New Numbers
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 10:46:13 PM »
I agree with Rod, Jerry.....with what you have gone through recently, it's no wonder you're T cells were slightly decreased.

Don't sweat it, you're still "undetectable".

Don't you love that word?  I think it would make a great TV show title:
"The Undetectables"


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