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Offline Ann

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Re: test negitive a 6week then positive later? condom breakage? Help me!!!
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2006, 02:21:31 PM »
Jeff,

I've never seen a person in these forums who tested negative at six weeks go on to test positive. Come to think of it, I've never seen a person test negative at four weeks and go on to test positive, but that probably does happen because four weeks is really two weeks too early.

With today's tests, the vast majority of infections can be caught by six weeks. I say can be - because not everyone tests after a risk.

You know, you never had a high risk in the first place. The ONLY even slightly risky thing you report is that you gave him a blowjob and even that risk is microscopic as he didn't cum in your mouth.

It's high time you stopped coming to this forum to fret about such a low, low risk encounter. Your six week negative result is NOT going to change. You should be spending your time with those kids you care so much about - and you should also spend some time exploring your feelings about your sexuality with a qualified professional. This is not the appropriate place for you to work through these feelings.

You are getting awfully close to being warned about being given a time out. Consider this a pre-warning.

You barely had a risk and you have a six week negative. Time to put this to one side and concentrate on your other issues, the ones that are driving your fears.

Ann
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Re: test negitive a 6week then positive later? condom breakage? Help me!!!
« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2006, 02:29:21 PM »
Thank you. I test again in the morning Wednesday another oral quick and i pray your right! I really appreciate the information and the direct honesty.  If I test out as you say with another negative. Ill give everyone a apology and lay off this.
thanks
Jeff

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Re: test negitive a 6week then positive later? condom breakage? Help me!!!
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2006, 11:37:05 PM »
I took my test yesterday. They were completely out of the oral quick test. So they gave me the oralsure? and said come back in a week. I am totally freaked out still. Today I have had the worse diarrhea in the world. ( for me at least). I read the article about the guy that didn't know where he caught hiv and it have made me worry worse.
Why am i so freaked out. I have went to my first counselor appointment this week and it has helped with alot of pain in my life. But at this point i am still convinced I am HIV +.
Would I still be have symptoms soreness, diarrhea etc? after 8 weeks?
Thank you I am sorry I am such a PNA
Thank
Jeff

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2006, 04:04:01 AM »
Those signs and symptoms you are having are NOT related to HIV.

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2006, 07:40:51 AM »
I thought diarrhea was a initial symptom my guts ,have hurt all night. and have had terrible cramps and diarrhea. could  this be anxiety?  I tried to call my friend again last night he told me several weeks ago that he took 2 test and they were negative. But now he will not return my calls or texts. I callled where he works just to talk to him (no pressure) and they said he didn't want to talk. I am just absolutely driving myself nuts with this. My kids are gone to camp all this week. and I am beside myself, Thinking about it.
What could be doing this to me! I ache have muscle cramps, headaches, and now stomach cramps and diarrhea.
I have read something about hiv hiding in the gut. Maybe this is just it affecting my body now. after 8 weeks.  My counselor does seem to understand this worry but said we have to deal with things that have changed me since i was a child ( sexual abused) before moving on.
thank you so much for everything!
 I am almost 100% certain its going to come back positive! I wish I could have took a rapid test! After 8 weeks what are the changes they change from negative to positive!!!!
thank you to all.
Jeff

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2006, 08:08:04 AM »
There are no "initial symptoms" of HIV which can diagnose infection. Stress causes diahrrea. I strongly urge you to address the real issue here, which is your stress.

As for your partner not returning your calls, I understand that totally. You are freaking out, and nothing anyone has told you has made any impact. I imagine your partner is seriously rethinking the wisdom of his actions, if not changing his phone number.

The article about HIV hiding in the gut refers to areas of the body which the drugs used to treat HIV have less of an impact. It is absolutely NOT relevant to HIV transmission/seroconversion, and goes to show you that reading a title of an article is not the same thing as delving into a scientific subject.

If it sounds like I am being harsh, I sort of am. You have been told here that HIV is not the issue. You have stressed yourself into a heart condition, you are harrassing your partner (who did the right thing by using a condom, went above and beyond even that by pulling out and ejaculating on you). You are using this board as a means to exascerbate your fears - which are absolutely unjustified.

I do not for a moment believe that this incident caused all this emotional distress. I submit that your history of emotional disturbance has manifested itself in this manner. You will more than likely ride this thing until your doctor and the local ER refuse to treat you, until your poor ex-sexual partner is granted a restraining order, or... until YOU decide that your mind and your body are under your ability to control, and you get - and keep getting - the real help you so urgently need.

I hope you do not have to ruin your life over this. But experience tells me that you are in very real danger of doing just that.

I sincerely wish you peace, and submit that this forum's ability to assist you in a positive way has come to an end. As such, I respectfully withdraw from further conversation.

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Offline cktkn618

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2006, 10:01:59 AM »
I understand what you are saying. But I agree with you guys I have as of last week started seeing a counselor due to the loss of my family and other things. As for the hospital refusing me that didn't happen. I live in a community of 8500 people they didn't have a cardiac unit to treat my heart attack. Which later was discovered as cmv caused pericardium of the heart.
I am several nervous due to the actions of my former partner. I found out he did porn for falcon videos, does dancing on his off time, he is a nurse but this other items has concerned me.
I tested neg at 6 weeks and pray this 8 week will be clear also. Honestly should i let this go at a 8 week neg or retest at 12?
Thank you to all that has put up with me

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2006, 10:30:44 AM »
Given your state of mind about this whole issue,  I don't think it would be a waste of energy to tell you not to re-test at 12 weeks. I mean come on, I can already hear you after collecting what I expect will be a negative at 8 weeks going on to bring up more what ifs and how many test poz after a negative at 8 weeks, etc.

Perhaps I am mis-reading you but I think not.

What you really need to work on are the feelings which are driving this concern. I expect you to continue to test negative. But your HIV jitters are a whole other matter. You have indicated you have a lot of "stuff" going on in your life, which suggests to me that getting some ongoing professional help to deal with the emotional aspects of this situation would be a good thing.
Andy Velez

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2006, 05:21:47 PM »
Just for everyone. I tested negative at 8 weeks!!!  What a relief!!!  Should I  retest at 12 or just let it go? Have it been long enough?  This was a oral sure that they had to send off!
Thanks to all
If u don't think i should retest. I am will accept this and delete my account so that i can move on and stop bothering everyone!
Thanks
Jeff

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Re: Waiting on results! Still scared!! Still have symptoms!!
« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2006, 05:51:33 PM »
Cktkn618,

It's up to you but considering your risk was minuscule to begin with.....  you have better odds of being on the next shuttle to the space station then seeing that result change at 13 weeks.

Morgan
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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2006, 05:11:10 PM »
I am Back again I tested last time at 7-8 week intervial. I am now being to worry again. I have came down with Folliculitis also my partner has it also. After doing some research I found it was mainly people that have a compromised immune system. It all over my back chest and scalp!  I am wondering if I tested to early. The last test that I took was a oralsure test. Am I over reacting I am very concerned I have finally found someone to be with and I am very worried!!  I called and spoke to a someone at the clinic i went to and he called me back after he spoke to the ID doctor the doctor thought I was ok and didn't need a test.  The ID doctor thought the test would have been accurate at 7-8 weeks giving the technology that they have now days. Am I over reacting the more I have thought about this the worse i feel. My partner and I have both been tested.. I was tested at the 7-8 week mark and practiced safe sex until about a month ago. Am I positive and I just tested to early??? Help anyone I just want to die if i know I have hurt someone!!!

Can anyone help me Please
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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2006, 07:40:32 PM »
I have just noticed that the rash is now on my ears and nose and forehead. The side above my ears are driving me nuts..  Can any help me out?? I am so paranoid i just cant help to wonder if i tested to early Andy, Ann... Can anyone Help???  Has anyone ever seen or heard of anyone that tested with the oralsure test negative  and then tested positive later at the 12 week interval??  PLEASE HELP IM GOING NUTSSS

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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2006, 07:52:35 PM »
ck,

Considering you had what is mainly a theoretical risk, Your eight week negative is not likely to change. I've never seen one change, even when there was actually a risk involved. You only need another test if that is the only way you can put this behind you. Expect a negative result - I do.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2006, 09:34:53 PM »
I spoke to a hotline person in Massachusetts and she said 6 weeks with a oralsure would be valid. But the CMV might have caused a delay in the test being correct! It was her thoughts, She said she could be wrong.  Any anyone with anymore knowledge help me out!!

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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2006, 06:33:55 AM »
ck,

I've never heard of CMV delaying seroconversion. CMV is common and if it had an effect, I'm sure I would have heard about it by now.

In fact, I've just had the opportunity to ask Tim Horn about CMV and he agrees with me. So you've got that on the best authority. If Tim says no, the answer is NO.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2006, 08:41:06 AM »
I'm not sure who Tim Horn is.. But as you can tell I am worried to death... Ann you said you never knew anyone who tested negative at 7-8 week mark with the testing avail now ( I'm sure oralsure is a new generation test) Can anyone else confirm what Ann has said that they also haven't seen anythink like that negative at 7-8 week test positive later?

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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2006, 09:00:56 AM »
You really need to listen to the advice that Ann, Andy and others have given you.  They know their stuff and they would never give advice that wasn't accurate. 
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Re: Help!! Im back, Scared to death!! Folliculitis Should I retest!!!!
« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2006, 09:56:59 AM »
ck,

You can read about Tim Horn on the About Us Page He'd IMd me while I was replying to you. Tim Horn has forgotten more about hiv than most doctors know. If you want to doubt his word, then there's not much hope that we can be of any further help to you.

And you seem to be ignoring the fact that your risk was negligible at best.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Im done!!!! Thank you to all Please read completely!!!!!!
« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2006, 04:20:24 PM »
Ann, And everyone that has made comments and help me thru this time. I went yesterday and was retested using a oralquick. exactly 4 months 2 weeks after the exposure. I was negative. I feel like a great load has been lifted. I spoke to my partner that I had the concern with also last night. And he told me he has been positive for a year now. He just could tell me honestly because he thought I wouldn't ever speak to him and consider him a outcast. I don't and would never do that. He is a great person even though he didn't tell me when I was so concerned... He disappeared from me because he thought he gave it to me since i have been so sick...
I just want to thank everyone.. I will stop in from time to time and say thanks but no more paranoia

 


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