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Author Topic: under treatment & using ecstasy  (Read 1683 times)

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Offline batman99

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under treatment & using ecstasy
« on: January 28, 2008, 10:59:37 AM »
i m under treatment (truvada and keletra) can i still take ecstasy for fun? will my doc know it? my next appt in march 10.

Offline thunter34

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Re: under treatment & using ecstasy
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 12:18:05 PM »
Holy repitition, Batman!  You just did a thread on this very same thing a few weeks ago.

AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline Dachshund

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Re: under treatment & using ecstasy
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 12:20:45 PM »
Holy repitition, Batman!  You just did a thread on this very same thing a few weeks ago.


now I know where I heard that

Offline redhotmuslbear

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Re: under treatment & using ecstasy
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 01:01:35 PM »
Bruce Wayne,

If you're asking if the doctor will do labs and scream "Grrrl!  Have you been up in the X again?" I would imagine that such will not be the case.  What he may well see are liver function tests even more "off" than just the effect of Kaletra would suggest.  Also, Kaletra will block your liver from breaking the X down, causing it to remain in your system longer, thereby prolonging the nasty effects like limp dick and over-heating.

I found this info out on the net at http://crystalneon.org/html/meth/hiv3.html ---

"Back in 1997 in England, a man with AIDS died suddenly after taking ecstasy (MDMA). This man was being treated for HIV with a protease inhibitor called Ritonavir. Ritonavir can have a "multiplying effect on drugs like MDMA. His friends said that he had only taken 2 tablets of ecstasy. But his blood levels measured 4.6 mg of MDMA. That's about 22 hits of ecstasy. Definitely not the fun night of dancing that he was hoping for."

That jives with anecdotal reports I've heard from friends in the US, Canada and Europe who are on HAART and use X, as well as other media reports about X-related fatalities.

I did MDMA 25 years ago on a regular basis for two years,, quite heavily for last year of that.  I got me HIV, an abusive relationship with a guy who kept shoving it at me, and the title of "rape survivor."  Still, I can remember vividly how good it felt just to be touched or licked or pissed on  :o or plowed while using, sometimes to the point where I need to go sit in a dark room for a while to get back to the present.  I may joke often that the clarity while using was the best part since "I could bottom for 50 to 60 guys in a night and the next day know whom to send thank-you notes!"...but the flip side of that is being accountable to myself for the crazy things I can remember doing while using.

Sex without drugs may not be "the same," but I assure you that it can be deeper and more meaningful, and the feelings more easily reproduced.

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Offline PJC0510

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Re: under treatment & using ecstasy
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2008, 09:13:12 AM »
I guess I respect my body to much to be worried about any recreational drug.

I do not want to be a prude here, but is it really worh the risk of getting other infectious during this?  Hepatits can be an ugly thing alone, on top of HIV it can be horrible.

Can you doctor find out?  Hopefully he can and talk to you about it or refer you to someone else that deals with substance abuse.

Please be careful, take care of the body you have!

And I read your last post, it seems as if you are not having good sex with this without E.  Enjoy what you have without the E.  A good man is hard to find!  I prefer intimacy over sex any way.  I do enjoy the sex, but it is just that. 

Maybe intamacy is the new sex for me.

« Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 09:20:05 AM by PJC0510 »
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Offline Andy Velez

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Re: under treatment & using ecstasy
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 09:23:12 AM »
Hey, Bat. You received a lot of informed responses the last time you brought this same topic up only a month or so ago.

Here's a link to a drug interaction chart:


Since we're talking about your LIFE, I would urge you to be totally candid with your doctor rather than attempting to hide any information about drug use. And I would say that about anything in your life in general. In order for your doctor to be the best kind of working partner to keep you healthy, you ought to be able to discuss everything candidly.   

Is some fun on recreational stuff worth enough to you to possibly risk your life?

« Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 09:30:19 AM by Andy Velez »
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