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Offline Desertguy

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #100 on: January 24, 2008, 09:44:49 PM »
Maybe I have missed something here!!!!
But I have been led to believe that you must pratice safe sex even +/+.  You can still get a worse virus than what you currently.  There are so many strains out there I would be more scared than before????

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #101 on: January 24, 2008, 10:09:15 PM »
You can still get a worse virus than what you currently.  There are so many strains out there I would be more scared than before?

This is more myth than reality and Matty the Damned says "Feh!" to it.

It's possible but extremely unlikely. In all the world the total number of poz-bodz who've acquired a nastier resistant "strain" of Iris the Virus through bareback fucking number less than two dozen. As someone noted earlier, you're more likely to manufacture your own resistant strain somewhere than catch one from someone somewhere along the line.

It's other STD's such as syphilis which are of more concern.

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #102 on: January 25, 2008, 04:33:45 PM »
my my i did start a topical subject :)
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24/01/08   755 :(      42%         4,010
13/2/08     922 :)      45%       78,234
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2008, 04:40:07 PM »
my my i did start a topical subject :)

Topical? More like tropical, cuz it's so hot! ;) ;D

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2008, 10:20:08 PM »
Not to rain on your, um, parade, but Poz On Poz unprotected is just as dangerous because of the risk of contracting med-resistant strains or more virulent strains of the disease.  You may not be that sick now, but you sure don't want it to get worse.

And don't want to preach, but you are intending this in a monogamous setting, right?

I mean, as the one guy said, it didn't stop him before, but personally I wouldn't think it was worth the risk to either of you.

Just my $.02 worth.

(Sorry - should have read all the other posts)

And Matty, regardless of how low the chances are purported to be, isn't that a lot like playing Russian Roulette?
« Last Edit: January 25, 2008, 10:22:35 PM by imjustagirl »

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #105 on: January 26, 2008, 12:40:50 PM »
Topical? More like tropical, cuz it's so hot! ;) ;D




Agreed.  Every time I see this thread title, I get ever so gently turned on just for a second.  And I don't think any discussion of BB Sex with Poz Lads would be complete without at least a mention of Lil' Steve's new avatar.  :P

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2008, 04:42:54 PM »
I love the topic to :D Gets me all warm and...umm yeah.

Personally, if both of us have low VL and on meds, I don't really see the problem. I BBed with a guy that was on the same meds as me...he is undetectable..I was at 510...don't see how we could harm each other.

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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #107 on: January 27, 2008, 06:09:24 PM »
And Matty, regardless of how low the chances are purported to be, isn't that a lot like playing Russian Roulette?

I can understand why people feel this way, but things aren't this simple. We've discussed this at length many times and we always end up back at the same place. Superinfection doesn't warrant the fuss that's made over it. Contracting an additional, nastier strain from unprotected sex is vanishingly rare.

When we make superinfection the focus of the bareback debate we ignore the far greater risk (I'm talking greater by orders of magnitude here) of contracting another STD.

As has been noted previously STD's like syphilis and hepatitis B are a real problem especially for HIV positive people.

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2008, 12:24:13 PM »
I was diagnosed in March 2006 after ending up in hospital with PCP and Cytomegalovirus and lucky to be here.

At every appointment my consultant raises the issue of contracting a second strain of HIV and in particular one that is drug resistent. I never went BB and probably still wouldn't. I just don't have sex now. Guess I'm just paranoid that if there's anything out there, I'm going to catch it.

 :'( :'(

Would this be with multiple partners or when in a monogamous relationship? If the risks are known and considered worth taking, then then the decision has to be yours and your partners.

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #109 on: February 22, 2008, 12:39:41 PM »
I never went BB and probably still wouldn't.

Can't help but be curious as to how you came by the bug if you "never went BB".  You don't have to answer that, of course, but it does beg the question.
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #110 on: February 22, 2008, 01:43:02 PM »
Can't help but be curious as to how you came by the bug if you "never went BB".  You don't have to answer that, of course, but it does beg the question.

Up until 1996 I was working as a social worker mainly with drug users. I was assaulted by a client known to be HIV positive. In those days there was no HIV post-exposure prophylaxis available. I also remember a condom splitting as well.

I still work with this man's son as both his parents are now dead. I don't spend any time thinking about how I got this virus.  I don't blame anyone. I have it and I cant get rid of it. I need to use all my energy to live with it and get to tomorrow.
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #111 on: February 22, 2008, 01:47:59 PM »
Up until 1996 I was working as a social worker mainly with drug users. I was assaulted by a client known to be HIV positive. In those days there was no HIV post-exposure prophylaxis available. I also remember a condom splitting as well.

I still work with this man's son as both his parents are now dead. I don't spend any time thinking about how I got this virus.  I don't blame anyone. I have it and I cant get rid of it. I need to use all my energy to live with it and get to tomorrow.

I'm sorry to hear of your awful experiences, but am glad of your attitude to not focusing on assigning blame.  Welcome to the boards.

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #112 on: February 22, 2008, 06:04:05 PM »
I'm sorry to hear of your awful experiences, but am glad of your attitude to not focusing on assigning blame.  Welcome to the boards.

Thanks for your kind welcome Iggy. Life goes on and I seem to be quite good at getting back in the saddle. Hope things are going well for you  :)
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Offline next2u

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #113 on: February 23, 2008, 03:20:49 AM »
you all make my day. the last time i had great sex was march 31 2007 --> which was most likely the night hiv entered and stayed in my body. when i look back to that night i am pissed i didnt use a condom and pissed that i wasnt able to have sex with jose & miguel again (and again). why does the hottest sex of my life have to be wrought with hiv? hmm,

bb with poz lads ,have done it once since turning. for me, sex w/ condoms and sex w/o condoms feels the same (topping or bottoming). but, then again, many here can attest to the difference. the biggest change was in my head (the big one) when having unprotected sex.

damnit, whatever happened to jose & miguel?
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Offline komnaes

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #114 on: February 23, 2008, 04:08:32 AM »
I gotta say I have held off on BB sex for the fear of getting other STDs... the idea of having multiple "social diseases" within my body just doesn't sound very attractive. But for how long I really don't know..

As for which one feels better, as a bottom I have come to the conclusion that the "alleged" satisfaction from BB sex is more psychological than physical. I did top w/o the rubber but it was years ago and it sent me on my way the biggest panic attack I ever had pre-diagnosis. I can't recall how it felt as I did it, er, under the influence. How I ended up being a BB bottom slut is still something I am trying to sort out... :-\ .. or not.. as I have already hit the jackpot...
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #115 on: February 24, 2008, 11:51:31 PM »
I'll bareback with anyone who's up for it.
I tell them the score and then it's their choice. As for picking up another STD myself - syphillis is about the only one I've not had, and I'm really not concerned about the possibility of superinfection. 

edited to add: thanks for the compliments Timmy - we'll shag one day, don't worry about that  :o ;D
« Last Edit: February 24, 2008, 11:54:40 PM by fearless »
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Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #116 on: February 24, 2008, 11:57:37 PM »
Syphilis has a classic retro chic one just can't find in all these new fangled STDs. :)

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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2008, 12:53:36 AM »
Syphilis has a classic retro chic one just can't find in all these new fangled STDs. :)

MtD

Haha.. it does.. just like bad disco dancing and mirror balls. Did most of the British royalty have it?
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Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2008, 12:57:27 AM »
Haha.. it does.. just like bad disco dancing and mirror balls. Did most of the British royalty have it?

I'm a bad disco dancer, and proud of it.  ;D
How I managed to escape it always amazed me. My boyfriend had it for a substantial amount of time, and despite never using condoms I never did pick it up. Says a lot for how much sex we were having at the time.  :-\
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2008, 12:05:29 PM »
Boy i need some Gay male friends...some of you guys are f'king Hilarious!!! and a bit raunchy..just how i like it! ;D and the lingo is to die for...
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #120 on: February 25, 2008, 03:27:50 PM »
Interesting, I'll say. But being the Queen that I am, I prefer the top to being on the bottom. I guess I just like being in control... ;) I have never been with another poz person or at least not to my knowledge. If I had the chance to, I think I would have to ask if the person has anything else I need to be concerned about. I don't need anything else that I can't get rid of. I am already dealing with this virus, being diabetic, and partially deaf, things that will be with me the rest of my life. I don't need anything else that wants to take up a permanent residence in my body.
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« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2008, 05:24:01 PM »
 I always perfer to bb . despite spending time getting to know someone before sex I still feel a Little uneasy and fearfull I may pick up a bug. I worry about hep. C. and herpies, they scare me the most. I live so far out in the woods I only manage to have sex about 2 times in five years. Oh well I guess I can bb if I just wash my hand first.

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« Reply #122 on: February 26, 2008, 07:38:47 PM »
  I only manage to have sex about 2 times in five years. Oh well I guess I can bb if I just wash my hand first.

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« Reply #123 on: February 26, 2008, 08:06:41 PM »
 I guess I have the ultimate safe sex... all alone  ::)

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« Reply #124 on: February 26, 2008, 09:26:14 PM »
Up until 1996 I was working as a social worker mainly with drug users. I was assaulted by a client known to be HIV positive.

Sorry to hear that, but I wonder how... Did he put a needle on you? Sorry I am nosy you don't have to answer.
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4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
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2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #125 on: February 26, 2008, 09:27:41 PM »
I guess I have the ultimate safe sex... all alone  ::)

Get some toy?  ;) I was using a magic wand while reading this thread.
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1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
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11/22/09: started Atripla
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« Reply #126 on: February 26, 2008, 09:30:11 PM »
I gotta say I have held off on BB sex for the fear of getting other STDs... the idea of having multiple "social diseases" within my body just doesn't sound very attractive. But for how long I really don't know..

As for which one feels better, as a bottom I have come to the conclusion that the "alleged" satisfaction from BB sex is more psychological than physical. 

You must be my soul mate because you think exactly like me. Too bad I am also a slutty bottom now, otherwise we should BB with each other.  ;)
4/24/07: Last tested Neg
1/22/08: First tested Poz
1/30/08: CD4 393; 28%; VL: 44k
3/18/08: CD4 218; 26%; VL: 222K
4/24/08: CD4 402; 26%; VL: lab forgot
7/22/08: CD4 405; 25%; VL: 6,780
10/15/08: CD4 340, 26%; VL: N/A
2/4/09: CD4 394, 26%; VL: N/A
Jun 09: CD4 300, 25%; VL: 4000
Oct 09: CD4 324, 23%, VL: 10K
11/22/09: started Atripla
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« Reply #127 on: February 26, 2008, 09:38:12 PM »
Sorry to hear that, but I wonder how... Did he put a needle on you? Sorry I am nosy you don't have to answer.
 
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« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2008, 09:39:22 PM »
You must be my soul mate because you think exactly like me. Too bad I am also a slutty bottom now, otherwise we should BB with each other.  ;)

I am just stating the obvious Alive.. after I wrote this, I was thinking, like, how stupid, of course sex is "psychological" too. Although having someone cumming inside you does not provide any physical sensation, it did give me a "high". More like a conditioned fetish. And the point about not wanting to get multiple STDs, the emphasis is I don't know for how much longer this fear will hold me back from having BB sex... ;)
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
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« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2008, 09:46:04 PM »
 I joke around allot ..but I'm like komnaes , Fear of getting an std and a little maturity holds me back from just picking some stranger up just for sex . I just don't feel the urge to be self destructive as I used to be.

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« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2008, 10:52:59 PM »
Although having someone cumming inside you does not provide any physical sensation, it did give me a "high".

My problem is the guy who fucked me didn't even cum, and he was the only guy who I had BB sex last year, for only 3 (maybe 4) times! That's why I thought I should win lottery but too bad not even a dollar.
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« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2008, 11:00:42 PM »
My problem is the guy who fucked me didn't even cum, and he was the only guy who I had BB sex last year, for only 3 (maybe 4) times! That's why I thought I should win lottery but too bad not even a dollar.

Haha, keep trying then Alive. ;D As for me I was a total BB slut for a period of over 6 months so it wasn't even close to winning a lottery, it was more than trying to cross a busy 12 lanes highway in LA blindfolded and expecting not to get hit by a car...
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Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
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Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
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Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
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Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #132 on: February 27, 2008, 10:59:15 AM »
I joke around allot ..but I'm like komnaes , Fear of getting an std and a little maturity holds me back from just picking some stranger up just for sex . I just don't feel the urge to be self destructive as I used to be.

I never felt lack of fear, immaturity or a desire to destroy oneself were prerequisites for anonymous sex. 

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« Reply #133 on: February 27, 2008, 12:18:19 PM »
 I am only more fearfull of anonymous sex because I don't know someones sexual history and also the fact that when I was having Lott's of anonymous sex I was drinking and drugging allot ...so for me at the time it was self destructive. I know that If I ever have another relationship I will probally bb. again if there are no clear health reason to make it inadvisable.

I also have a problem with bb. with someone I just met even after disclosing my hiv status. To protect the health and well being of someone that may be rushing into something in the heat of the moment.
I once had bb. sex with a guy who I told up front my hiv status, and later he told me that he only assumed he was positive and now had regrets and worry over unprotected sex. I felt horrible for him simply because I was 50% culpable of the ramifications of this.

I guess what I trying to say is , for me something as intimate as bb. is better shared with someone special and only after some carefull consideration for the other person and after frank discussion
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« Reply #134 on: February 27, 2008, 12:30:01 PM »

I guess what I trying to say is , for me something as intimate as bb. is better shared with someone special and only after some carefull consideration for the other person and after frank discussion

I understand where you are coming from and salute you on your personal choice.  I just think it's best to avoid broadly defining the rights and wrongs of sexual acts between two consenting adults.


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« Reply #135 on: February 27, 2008, 12:36:38 PM »
  I completely agree with you on that . The last thing I want is for anyone to think I'm judging them when we are all sharing and having a discussion.
  I am new to this forum and am trying my best to join in and make myself clearly understood.
  Thanks for giving me the opportunity to learn and clarify my thoughts   

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« Reply #136 on: February 27, 2008, 04:50:43 PM »
Sorry to hear that, but I wonder how... Did he put a needle on you? Sorry I am nosy you don't have to answer.

Yes it was a needle stick injury. Can't say it was the biggest prick I've ever had though  ;D ;D
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« Reply #137 on: February 27, 2008, 07:22:58 PM »
not posted in my thread for a while but wow what a responce
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7/01/08   1273 :)      N/A       100,232
24/01/08   755 :(      42%         4,010
13/2/08     922 :)      45%       78,234
09/04/08   652 :(      38%       36,604
05/05/08   936 :)      39%       38,952
07/07/08   844 :)      34%       24,000
12/11/08   753 :(      31%       45,600
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #138 on: February 27, 2008, 07:25:41 PM »
Well, what did you expect with that topic (BB)?

Edited to add:  I am all about barebacking with another poz person.  Just to set the record straight.  I don't want anyone thinking I'm a prude.
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Re: BB SEX WITH POZ LADS
« Reply #139 on: February 27, 2008, 09:40:39 PM »
I don't want anyone thinking I'm a prude.

Betty's a prude... Betty's a prude...

As if! ;D ;)
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« Reply #140 on: February 28, 2008, 01:00:01 AM »
Betty's a prude... Betty's a prude...

As if! ;D ;)

Hey that's my nickname!


he he he

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« Reply #141 on: February 28, 2008, 10:37:25 PM »
Yeah Sharky - your a prude. HAHAHA

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« Reply #142 on: February 29, 2008, 11:08:25 AM »
Hey that's my nickname!


he he he

Maybe someday we'll find out with all that 'oral' stimulation stuff you do. 
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« Reply #143 on: February 29, 2008, 11:53:42 AM »
Maybe someday we'll find out with all that 'oral' stimulation stuff you do. 

Haha,.. yeah, this guy has confessed of liking a pussy or two despite being GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY....
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
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« Reply #144 on: March 01, 2008, 10:31:25 PM »
Haha,.. yeah, this guy has confessed of liking a pussy or two despite being GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY....
Yeah Sharky - your a prude. HAHAHA



That is just a nickname, that's all.. an inaccurate one, but just a nickname.  There is a funny story for how I got that. though (but another thread)

And what is wrong with gay guy appreciating a women's body? (yet another thread)

Sharkie  ;D   :P   :P   :D   :o

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« Reply #145 on: March 01, 2008, 11:09:33 PM »

And what is wrong with gay guy appreciating a women's body? (yet another thread)

Sharkie  ;D   :P   :P   :D   :o

Actually I had never seen one until I was like 24ish. I went to Bangkok for the first time with a group of gay friends and someone stupidly decided to also go see a girlie show; and there they were - pussy smoking, pussy playing ping-pong, pussy eating banana... to put it mildly I was traumatized  ;D
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Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
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April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
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« Reply #146 on: March 01, 2008, 11:31:02 PM »
 I was in Bangkok once ....I only saw the pussy and the gold fish trick. As much as I hate to I just had to weigh in on bb.ing and gold fish.LOL

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« Reply #147 on: March 02, 2008, 09:28:43 AM »
Actually I had never seen one until I was like 24ish. I went to Bangkok for the first time with a group of gay friends and someone stupidly decided to also go see a girlie show; and there they were - pussy smoking, pussy playing ping-pong, pussy eating banana... to put it mildly I was traumatized  ;D

OMG.  That sounds fabulous!  I would LOVE to see that!

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« Reply #148 on: March 02, 2008, 11:27:34 AM »
I think ADD makes it  hard for me to really be afraid of future consequences i am so stuck in right now.  So um yeah I know all the risks and I only BB and only have slept  well had sex with other POZs since  i was infected. i sure hope i dont get a super infection, syph etc but  in reality i have  zero fear about the future till iit comes <no pun intended>. My Dr. redid the genotype  once  and then I read to get a genotype you need over 1000 viral load so what was the point?  I know it's a bad choice to BB. I know  with my labs and how well my body contained the intial infection a reinfection with a strain that was different might bring that house of cards down but it doesn't change my behavior.  In a way it's insane but it's how I got to here in the first place. I guess it's like  being a smoker for me. I know it's not a good choice but I want it soooo bad! The fact I know iis a step on the road to change but i even think about safe sex and I feel like a whiney chiild  who is having a toy taken away. A therapist, a Dr, a case worker  all talk to me about it and I am like Sam i am. I don't like condoms, I dont like them on the bed, i dont like them on the floor , I dont like them on the kitchen table, I dont like them in a tree  I dont like Condoms or green eggs and ham....
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« Reply #149 on: March 03, 2008, 04:36:44 AM »
OMG.  That sounds fabulous!  I would LOVE to see that!



Haha.. it's still going on so if you find your way to Bangkok Tim...

Actually I was told by a friend that until early 90s when AIDS really started to hit a lot of working girls/boys they would still do sex shows in the raw. A guy would screw a girl until he cummed inside and then she would, er, push it out for everyone to see. Cream pies I think that was how they called them. Now I think condoms are used, and they're surely used in the boys-on-boys shows.

Bangkok is such a crazy place.. which makes me wonder where the hell is Votz.. he's much better in writing abut those sleazy places than I ever can.
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Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
May 13 CD=567 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
Jan 14 CD=521 (21%)/VL=UD(<50)

 


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