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Offline Aichan

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Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« on: July 14, 2006, 03:32:16 AM »
To all the worried wells,
  I was told repeatedly by the moderators of this forum I had NO risk for infection, given that I fingered a woman in a massage parlor with a fresh and somewhat deep cut. Fingering was NOT a risk for infection, no matter what spin I put on it. That's what I was told. Stupidly, I didn't want to listen. I convinced myself it COULD happen. I was the one who was there in the parlor. I saw the cut. I know what I did. I was worried.
  In the days immediately following, my hands and then my feet started buzzing. It turned into periodic bouts of pins and needles. I had what I convinced myself was peripheral neuropathy and my MRI of my cervical spine and brain couldn't find anything wrong. So, of course, it HAD to be my worse-case-scenario. I began checking my tongue 10 times a day in the mirror. I checked my temerpature anytime i felt flushed, or if I simply had a spare minute in the day. One day my tongue developed a painful fissure that lasted a week. And on and on.
  Here I was, a fairly normal well-educated and healthy 39-year-old professional suddening freaking out about every tweak and twang my body would produce. I put 2 and 2 together and came up with a googolplex.
  It all started six months ago - and my tinging etc. is still with me. I say this as I am hunched over my computer, hacking away 10 hours a day, shoulders tight as a drum, and with a wretched posture that would put Quasimoto to shame. Surely, THAT couldn't be the cause!?!
  The more I stressed, the more my symptoms flared. I was one big ball of stress, with quite a few loose strings that I just kept pulling and pulling.
  I say all of this because ... I just tested NEGATIVE - 6 months after what I thought was a legitimate risk of exposure.
  Don't repeat what I just did to myself over a no-risk situation. Listen to the very well-informed moderators here. They're not here to trick you. They're here to help.
  With that, I bid everyone a fond and healthy farewell.
 -Aichan
 

 
 

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Re: Fingering w/Cut + Neurological Symptoms
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2006, 04:56:28 AM »
I second that.

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Re: Fingering w/Cut + Neurological Symptoms
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2006, 05:53:51 AM »
Congratulations!

Very good news! Thats really great and I am so happy for you.

My situation sounds exactly like mine. I also worry over a fingering &mutual masturbation incident. Moreso I had a very deep and stiched cut at this time. My cut was allready 7 days old.

Especially Ann helped me a lot to lower my fear. THANKS! I trust her, assesing my situation as non risky. What worries my a bit(only a bit ;) ) is, that I got a strongly swollen lymph on my throat. I also got a slime sputum and a slight pain during swallowing. I dont know exactly when it started, but I estimate it 4-5 days after the incident. Lasting now for 7 days. No fever or other symptoms.

Ok, however. I dont want to catch an allegation, that I hijacked this thread.  ;D All I want to say is, that I wish you a great time. Stay healthy and be always protected

Best wishes

Fabian
P.S. By the way, is there any award available, for the person that speaks/ writes the badest english  ;) I am sure, I got a fair chance to win *bigsmile*

« Last Edit: July 14, 2006, 06:08:00 AM by Fabian2006 »

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Re: Fingering w/Cut + Neurological Symptoms
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2006, 06:20:52 AM »
Aichan,

I remember you... hehehe... "googolplex". Now we have a name for the illness people create in themselves when stressing out over hiv. :D

If you use your computer for work (and not just symptom surfing) you might want to look into getting a better desk set-up. I was having problems with my shoulders and the resulting nerve problems in my arms a while back. I got a better chair and desk and the problems have greatly diminished.

It's no big surprise that you tested negative, but thanks for coming back to let us know. You might want to have a read through our Welcome Thread and follow the link to the Transmission Lesson. It's new since you last were here on this website.

And while you're here, I'd like to remind you of a few things:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms and avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann

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Re: Fingering w/Cut + Neurological Symptoms
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2006, 06:59:24 AM »
Thanks Ann,
Wife and I just learned "we're" pregnant.
Now I have a whole 'nother world of worry. But a good kind.
Keep up the good work.
-Mr Googol-perplexed

Offline Aichan

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Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 08:20:56 AM »
Hi,
I slept with a girl a couple months ago, but I'm 99.9 percent sure I did not have insertive sex. We bumped and grinded for a while - naked - then I spooned her - again naked... Yes, I had been drinking and I was impaired, but I remember everything. I thought I took great care not to insert my penis or even have the tip of my penis near her vaginal fluids. I left the encounter aware of everything - so I was not worried. A week later I got symptoms of prostatitis, with itching and swelling feeling. Saw a doc and he didn't do an STD check. Thought it was chronic non-bacterial prostatitis. Again, I didn't worry. A week later, I came down with a fever and chills but no other symptoms other than the swelling feeling in the prostate. Saw another doctor and got same diagnosis. A few weeks later, with prostatitis symptoms still there, a third doctor did a Chlamydia test. It came positive. He says it was likely an acute bacterial infection in the prostate from chlamydia. My doctor says simple contact (non-insertive) can transmit Chlamydia. My question is, if my penis tip did come into contact with vaginal fluids in this manner (from rubbing etc), am I at risk of HIV infection?
Right now, the fact I even got chlamydia is puzzling enough, but the test didn't lie and I had bacterial infection symptions, what's the chances I could have contracted HIV? Thanks for your consideration of my question.
best
AC

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 08:33:42 AM »
Aichan, chlamydia is not an HIV specific occurence. Nothing you have described, including possibly having her vaginal fluids dripping on to your penis, would have put you at risk for HIV transmission.

You are worrying needlessly and there is no need for HIV testing. Other STDs are easier to acquire as you have discovered with chlamydia, so we suggest that anyone who is sexually active ought to have a full STD panel done at least annually.

As far as HIV is concerned I don't see any problem. However, mixing excessive drinking with casual sex is a risky business and should be avoided.   
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Offline Aichan

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2010, 08:41:43 AM »
Thanks Andy,
Yes, I'm aware that chlamydia and HIV are separate issues, and that chlamydia is much easier to contract. However, the fact I even got chlamydia (when I was almost sure I hadn't put myself at risk for that) is what raised my concern about possible HIV exposure. So, even though I was close enough to catch chlamydia, as long as I did not have insertive sex, this should NOT be an HIV possible situation?

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2010, 08:55:08 AM »
That's right. Nothing you have reported put you at risk for HIV transmission.
Andy Velez

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 12:27:27 PM »
Aichan,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.






I agree with Andy that you weren't at risk for hiv in this instance, despite the chlamydia.

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Offline Aichan

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 09:21:57 PM »
Thanks Ann and Andy,
It's strange how anxiety works. You can be reassured one minute, then later the fears stalk you. I have gone over and over in my head the night in question, and I'm not sure what I remember correctly any more. Did I in fact penetrate? Why did I have a high fever with chills 2 weeks after the incident, with NO other symptoms. Yes, I tested positive for chlamydia anibodies a month later. But again, I didn't have the standard symptoms for that. No bacterial could be found in all my urine tests. So I go back to that initial unexplained high fever and sever chills. Yes, I had high neutrophil count when I went to the doctor the day of the fever, suggesting a BACTERIAL infection. Still, where was the bacteria?
I don't really have any more questions for you guys. I know the situation. Only a test will determine the result, and from my situation I probably was not at risk. Still, the mind plays tricks...  Thanks for the no nonsense responses. It's much appreciated.

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 09:28:44 PM »
Thanks Ann and Andy,
It's strange how anxiety works. You can be reassured one minute, then later the fears stalk you. I have gone over and over in my head the night in question, and I'm not sure what I remember correctly any more. Did I in fact penetrate? Why did I have a high fever with chills 2 weeks after the incident, with NO other symptoms. Yes, I tested positive for chlamydia anibodies a month later. But again, I didn't have the standard symptoms for that. No bacterial could be found in all my urine tests. So I go back to that initial unexplained high fever and sever chills. Yes, I had high neutrophil count when I went to the doctor the day of the fever, suggesting a BACTERIAL infection. Still, where was the bacteria?
I don't really have any more questions for you guys. I know the situation. Only a test will determine the result, and from my situation I probably was not at risk. Still, the mind plays tricks...  Thanks for the no nonsense responses. It's much appreciated.

Ok something doesn't add up here.

Testing for C. Trachomatis (ie the cause of venereal chlamydia) doesn't involve looking for antibodies. There are two ways to test for it, both involving detecting the organism itself:

1. A chlamydial culture which uses a swab taken from deep within your urethra to try and grow the organism in a laboratory;

2. A urine PCR assay which attempts to detect genetic material from the bacteria present in your urine.

So you might wanna reflect on that. There is, to my knowledge, no chlamydia antibody test.

In terms of symtpoms, around half (if not more in the case of males) people with chlamydia exhibit no symptoms of acute infection.

In any event I agree with Andy and Ann that you were not at risk of HIV infection, chlamydia or otherwise.

MtD

Offline Aichan

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 09:45:58 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more. Things don't add up. My American doctor here in China did a BLOOD test for chlamydia and he says it came back positive for antibodies, indicating I had a past exposure to chlamydia. But he said the results indicated a fairly recent infection. I too had thought a blood test was unreliable for Chlamydia. And I mentioned that to him. But he said it was pretty accurate. I'm just as confused. Esp if in fact I did NOT have Chlamydia, what the hell was that sharp fever and chills I got 2 weeks after my incident? that was wierd. Wiped me out. Would you agree that a high neutrophil count would be primarily a result of a bacterial infection, even though they couldn't find a single bacteria?

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 09:54:58 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more. Things don't add up. My American doctor here in China did a BLOOD test for chlamydia and he says it came back positive for antibodies, indicating I had a past exposure to chlamydia. But he said the results indicated a fairly recent infection. I too had thought a blood test was unreliable for Chlamydia. And I mentioned that to him. But he said it was pretty accurate. I'm just as confused. Esp if in fact I did NOT have Chlamydia, what the hell was that sharp fever and chills I got 2 weeks after my incident? that was wierd. Wiped me out. Would you agree that a high neutrophil count would be primarily a result of a bacterial infection, even though they couldn't find a single bacteria?

Actually I've given you a bum steer on this. There is indeed a chlamydia antibody test and it is a blood test.

But it's not normally used to diagnose active chlamydial disease, rather it's used in the management of women who have issues with infertility. Chlamydia is a leading cause of infertility in women.

So my apologies on that. I should have checked more carefully before shooting my big mouth off. :)

That said, none of this changes your situation vis HIV. You were not at risk.

MtD

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 10:45:06 PM »
no worries MtD...
oh wait, this whole post is about worries. well, you know what i mean.
anyway, I'm all clear of chlamydia (or no chlamydia) after they zapped me with enough antibiotics to kill a moose. post treatment, they did a urethral swab and it was all clear over every possible living nasty micro-organism. I'm going to consider that fever episode (pre-treatment) an unfortunate coincidence. But then again, I'll probably go through another bout of doubt in the near future. I appreciate your note.

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 08:06:35 AM »
And the bottom line in all of this remains that nothing you have reported put you at risk for HIV. Period.
Andy Velez

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2010, 07:44:50 AM »
ah..those worries have crept up again. I understand that from the information that I've posted I was not at risk from naked frontage with a woman, but the doubts surge back like the tide. Especially since I did contract chlamdya from the 'contact.' My memory is not as clear about that drunken night. I don't remember insertive sex, but then again, i was drunk and naked. It's been nearly 6 months since then, and NO, i have not gotten tested. Partly because I live in China and would be kicked out if anything was found. Heck, even a test raises red flags. But also because of the excellent no-nonsense advice on this website that I was not at risk. That being said, I've had a string of sicknesses since then. Including that high fever and chills 2 weeks after the encounter. I've also had several more bouts with high fevers. I've seen the doctors in all cases and I've always had high neutrophil counts (indicating BACTERIAL infections, right?). So, I've always convinced myself the AIDSMEDS folks are right. I was not at risk. But now, my wife is consistently not feeling well, and is losing her hair in clumps. This is a woman who is always healthy, and I can't help but be worried. I'm not sure what I'm asking here...but needed to get this off my chest. Any advice or opinions are greatly welcome.

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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2010, 07:50:28 AM »
ah..those worries have crept up again. I understand that from the information that I've posted I was not at risk from naked frontage with a woman, but the doubts surge back like the tide. Especially since I did contract chlamdya from the 'contact.' My memory is not as clear about that drunken night. I don't remember insertive sex, but then again, i was drunk and naked. It's been nearly 6 months since then, and NO, i have not gotten tested. Partly because I live in China and would be kicked out if anything was found. Heck, even a test raises red flags. But also because of the excellent no-nonsense advice on this website that I was not at risk. That being said, I've had a string of sicknesses since then. Including that high fever and chills 2 weeks after the encounter. I've also had several more bouts with high fevers. I've seen the doctors in all cases and I've always had high neutrophil counts (indicating BACTERIAL infections, right?). So, I've always convinced myself the AIDSMEDS folks are right. I was not at risk. But now, my wife is consistently not feeling well, and is losing her hair in clumps. This is a woman who is always healthy, and I can't help but be worried. I'm not sure what I'm asking here...but needed to get this off my chest. Any advice or opinions are greatly welcome.

What do you want from us? An answer that will get you around the authorities in China?

Tough luck mate. It doesn't work that way. We have given you our collective opinion. You were not at risk of HIV infection and you do not need to be tested.

If your wife is feeling ill she should see a doctor. If her hair is falling out in clumps, she should certainly see a doctor and I've got a feeling she will. But if you think we're going to let you tug our dicks with this maybe/maybe not shit, you've got another thing coming.

So my advice is that you should get a life. If your wife is ill, spend more time with her and less time on the internet.

MtD

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 07:54:48 AM »
fair enough, and probably deserved. i appreciate the candor.

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 09:25:33 AM »
And if you are going to continue to hang on to unwarranted HIV fears, there's a simple solution to that: put and end to them by getting tested and collecting the inevitable negative result.

Despite your recurring fears HIV is not your issue. But guilt for having strayed which drives those fears might be more to the point.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2011, 05:23:41 AM »
Thanks Andy. For piece of mind I am going to get tested this week. I no longer am sure what really happened that night last May. I know I DID contract chlamydia so there was enough contact for me to be concerned. I have stayed away from this website for awhile and have been much better... With the exception that the buzzing in my hands and feet has escalated to pin prick pain in the fingertips. My feet and hands regularly go to sleep (pins and needles) as well. Just curious why many medical journals say PN is one of the first clinical findings of HIV infection, but here it is repeated that one simply does not get PN unless they're on medicines or in advanced stages of infection. I'm not questioning you or your advice. I'm curious. Thanks

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Re: Got Chlamydia... What about HIV?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 05:49:42 AM »
PN doesn't happen in early HIV infection and those that do have HIV and PN the cause is the medication they take.

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2011, 06:01:29 AM »
Thanks Rod. I take it within the first year would definitely be considered EARLY HIV?

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2011, 08:02:51 AM »
Aichen,

For heaven's sake, use your noodle. Of course the first year is early. People can live with hiv for years.

You did not have a risk for hiv infection and you will collect another negative result.

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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2011, 10:26:40 AM »
My noodle is in fine working order. Just verifying so Ithere's no ambiguity. There are obvious stages  to infection, including acute etc. For some people, one year in can be more advanced than for others. Ithat being said, i realize HIV PN happens much later than after 1 year. Thanks much

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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2011, 11:24:30 AM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2011, 04:03:21 PM »
as predicted here, i just tested negative.
doctor ramped up the anxiety before taking the test by saying the only way i could have gotten chlamydia was through unprotected sexual intercourse, causing me again to try and remember all the details of my drunken night. needless to say, it's now a moot point. i'm negative 11 months after the incident. best of luck to everyone else. goodbye.

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2011, 04:13:52 PM »
Yes, you are happily HIV negative. And you can keep it that way by always using a condom for vaginal/anal intercourse.

Good luck to you.
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