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Offline bear60

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Auld Lang Syne
« on: December 29, 2007, 04:20:12 PM »
This always brings tears to my eyes but its always a part of New Years Eve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG3afAIi6IQ&feature=related

"auld lang syne" means something like "the good old days" in old Scottish,  but heres Barbara to tell us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjOKw7qq2g0
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Offline anniebc

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 05:56:05 PM »
hi Josh

The direct scottish translation means "Old long ago"..a song about love and friendship..my beautiful grandmother, as soon as the bells struck midnight she would gather us all together to sing this song, she never brought in a new year without it.

I hope you have a great new year.

Hugs
Jan :-*
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 09:21:08 PM »
I love this song, and all the memories it conjurs up.   It always, without fail, makes me cry.

I mourn for the New Year's Eves from years ago, and the life I had then; I am thankful for being able to celebrate yet another New Year's Eve!  And I look forward to celebrating many many more.

Happy New Year to everyone in my A.M. family!   Especially to you, dear Jan.

Love,

Alan
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 07:17:41 AM »
I also luv the song.  And Alan, I know what you mean about remembering New Year's Eves of years ago.  Here's to many more though to everyone on here-you people mean a lot to me! :-*
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 12:37:21 PM »
Jan
Was your Grandmother Scottish? Kurt has 1/4 Scottish in him and he bought a kilt a few years ago...he looks so nice in it.
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 12:45:56 PM »
Does anyone have a copy of all the words that they can post here?

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 01:32:24 PM »
Excuse my dumb, but "should auld acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mind"... I've never understood how that fits in with the obviously nostalgic and touching quality of the song.

Someone kindly clarify so that I have one less mystery in my life.

 
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 02:07:21 PM »
Hi Josh

My grandmother was born in Ireland but moved to Scotland when she was a year old..she was very proud of her Scottish and Irish blood...and I love a man in a kilt.. ;)

Andy..If I remember right it has something to do with forgetting those who have just passed through your life (acquaintances) and were never meant to stay so you can make room for new friends and lovers in the New Year...something along those lines, it's been awhile since my grandmother told me the story, and my memory isn't as good as it once was... ;D

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Offline bear60

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007, 02:21:09 PM »
Andy
I think its that "old English" thing, where the meaning is lost to us....I thought what it meant was: we should not forget our old aquaintences....that by remembering them we keep their memory alive.
Ok ....anybody read old english?
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2007, 02:24:38 PM »
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,

And never brought to mind?

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,

And days of auld lang syne? And days of auld lang syne, my dear,

And days of auld lang syne.

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,

And days of auld lang syne?



We twa hae run aboot the braes

And pu'd the gowans fine.

We've wandered mony a weary foot,

Sin' auld lang syne.

Sin' auld lang syne, my dear,

Sin' auld lang syne,

We've wandered mony a weary foot,

Sin' auld ang syne.


We twa hae sported i' the burn,

From morning sun till dine,

But seas between us braid hae roared

Sin' auld lang syne.


Sin' auld lang syne, my dear,

Sin' auld lang syne.

But seas between us braid hae roared

Sin' auld lang syne.



And ther's a hand, my trusty friend,

And gie's a hand o' thine;

We'll tak' a cup o' kindness yet,

For auld lang syne.

For auld lang syne, my dear,

For auld lang syne,

We'll tak' a cup o' kindness yet,

For auld lang syne.





Offline bear60

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2007, 02:34:47 PM »
Here is one "translation"... which to me sounds like two men remembering their "good old days" They are drinking a pint to those good old days.


Days Long Ago(Auld Lang Syne)

Should old acquaintances be forgotten
And never be remembered?
Should old acquaintances be forgotten
and days long ago.

Chorus:
For days long ago, my dear,
For days long ago
We'll drink a cup of kindness yet
For days long ago!

And surely you'll have your pint tankard
And surely I'll have mine.
And we'll drink a cup of kindness yet
For days long ago.

Chorus

We two have run about the hills
And pulled the daisies fine
But we've wandered many a weary mile
Since the days long ago.

Chorus

We two have paddled in the stream
From morning sun till dinner-time
But the broad seas have roared between us
Since the days long ago.

Chorus

And here's my hand, my trusty friend,
And give me your hand too,
And we will take an excellent good-will drink
For the days of long ago.

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2007, 02:38:50 PM »
Thank you Dan (or hermie ;)) for the words and thank you Bear for the translation.  NOW it finally makes sense!

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2007, 02:46:32 PM »
You are welcome MIMISMOM....the words clearly read kind of like a toast, and the two men are toasting the good times thay have had in the past. How appropriate for New Years...lets not forget the past year and those good times we have had. ( Like you guys who went to AMG)

modified to add: I love Google.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 02:50:13 PM by bear60 »
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007, 03:36:53 AM »
If you told me in my twenties I would live to experience a scene in my life that mirrored that tear-jerker of a pop song by Dan Fogelberg called "Same old Lang Syne" I would never have believed you.... then it did happen last year, and Dan Fogelberg also just died last week of cancer.

".. and as I turned my way back home
the snow has turned to rain..."
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007, 07:52:17 AM »
I think its that "old English" thing

Hmmmm .. sort of, but not quite.

In Britain, until quite recently (as in the last century), the ‘English’ you spoke (if you could even call it English) was normally quite different to the English you wrote.

If you could read and write, then the English you wrote was an evolution of Middle English .. but only the educated elites actually spoke in that English.

Travel even a short distance from London and you would encounter heavily accented dialects that contained all manner of words that were no part of the written language.

Travel a hundred miles from London and you would encounter dialects that were almost unintelligible.

Watered down versions of the local and regional accents are still there, but only hints of the diverse vocabulary of the native dialects remain in the living spoken language.

‘Syne’ has never been a part of written English. It is the old Norse word for ‘ago’ (or ‘since’) and is common in the native spoken dialects of the parts of Britain (the north and east of England along with the lowlands and islands of Scotland) that had Viking settlement and influences.

‘Lang’ is the standard Germanic (which is what both English and Norse are) word for ‘long’ .. which got bastardised in Middle English (blame the Normans for that), but stayed on as ‘lang’ in most northern dialects.

That whole point of the poem is that Burns is writing in phonetic ‘Scots’ (a lowland dialect of Scotland) rather than formalised written English. He is urging people not to abandon their traditions and spoken language.

Sorry .. I know that was rather tiresome, but how ‘English’ developed from an obscure Frisian tribal dialect of German, spoken only by a few thousand people, is sort of my pet subject  :-[

PS: Scots (the native English, or Scottish English, dialect of lowland Scotland that the poem is written in) is not to be confused with Scottish Gaelic (the native Gallic language of highland Scotland). Burns did nae ken the Gallic.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2007, 10:44:58 AM by vokz »

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2007, 08:23:20 AM »
Wow, Vokz, I think that's really interesting.  How do you know all that?  Really, I did enjoy reading it.

OMG, I didn't know Dan Fogelberg died.  That's sad.  I never really was a huge fan, but he was a good singer.
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2007, 09:09:45 AM »
How do you know all that? 

It is probably just that I am a fully subscribed member of SBA (Sad Bastards Anonymous).

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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2007, 11:24:55 AM »
 Vokz
Thats spoken like a true scholar.  Thank you for filling in for us, some of the mystery.
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2007, 12:26:52 PM »
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2007, 08:34:09 PM »
Philly
Dont forget to play AULD LANG SYNE at midnight, its a toast to all of us here who have survived another year and have some good memories of the past year.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2007, 08:35:49 PM by bear60 »
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Re: Auld Lang Syne
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2008, 08:04:50 PM »
If you told me in my twenties I would live to experience a scene in my life that mirrored that tear-jerker of a pop song by Dan Fogelberg called "Same old Lang Syne" I would never have believed you.... then it did happen last year, and Dan Fogelberg also just died last week of cancer.

".. and as I turned my way back home
the snow has turned to rain..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIGiX-vc6M8&feature=related

I always loved that song...still do...Dan's best in my opinion.


 


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