Quantcast

Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
E-newsletters
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr MySpace
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Username:
Password:
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
April 21, 2014, 11:14:06 AM

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 620680
  • Total Topics: 46762
  • Online Today: 253
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: Well, I messed up . . .  (Read 1821 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ric Wilke

  • Member
  • Posts: 573
  • I joined AIDSmed.com 10/2002.
Well, I messed up . . .
« on: December 05, 2007, 12:51:58 AM »
This morning I took my meds, the ones that I put together every Saturday afternoon for the next week, and I looked in my hand and said to Thom, "Where the hell is my 'happy pill'?  You know, the football shaped one?"

He asked, "Well, when did you take it last?"

"Damned if I know."

And I got to thinking.  I remember emptying my Paxil bottle two or three Saturdays ago, thinking that I would remember I needed to bring a new bottle down from the stock pile upstairs for the next week's fill.  Well, I guess I forgot and have been off of my antidepressant for about three weeks.  Now I know why I been two steps short of the most crabby man on the face of the earth.

This really concerns me for several reasons.  First of all, I have never missed a schedule doseage of any meds in my life.  But more importantly, I forgot one of my meds completely.  Brain fog, some may say.  But I know it is all too true.  I forget too much.  I keep a Day-Timer to record appointments and important things like birthdays and anniversaries.  But it's the daily things that give me problems.  Why did I get up from the kitchen table and walk across the room?  I'm a gourmet cook and sometimes I forget what I am going to prepare for dinner.  On the other hand, I can write the shopping list for the market in the order of the items I need for a whole week's worth of meals and never have to back track for a forgotten item.

What is going on with my brain?  Brain fog doesn't seem to explain it.

I'm so confussed.  Ric   
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 02:01:59 PM by Ric Wilke »

Offline BT65

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 9,631
  • Diagnosed + 1989
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2007, 07:15:50 AM »
Ric, the same things happen to me all the time.  I'm not sure quite what to attribute it to (getting older, HIV, past drug abuse etc.)  Maybe a combination of all of these things.  I'll forget the simplest thing and be asking myself "what was it that I'm trying to remember?"  It's been discussed several times on these forums and it seems like a lot of us are in the same boat.  I try to do crossword puzzles, and watch Jeopardy to try to keep the brain sharp.
I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

Offline mjmel

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,069
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2007, 07:53:18 AM »
Same here, Ric. So it seems that it's the memory recalls that are more immediate/at-the-moments and not so much the stuff that's been in the memory bank for longer length of time/ingrained into behavioral modes.
I can remember some odd shit about long ago but I pause at the doorway of the pantry and wonder why I left the counter to go in there. So, frustrated, I turn the light out and close the door and go back to the kitchen island. Then, "ding, ding, ding" I recall it was sugar I went in for to fill the sugar bowl.
See. It's not just you, hon.
I note it's just an acknowledgement I'm offering and not a true solution. I just want to offer you some kind of consolation on the matter. Hope it helps.

Mike M

Offline AlanBama

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,578
  • 'class' of '87
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2007, 11:40:36 AM »
I am so "with you" on this Ric.... I do my drug box every Sunday night.   I can do it practically blindfolded....but if one of the bottles were missing, I'm not sure I would remember that I was out of that drug.   I always try to be careful with my "empties", leaving them on the counter in a prominent place so I will get the refill on time and put it in with the others.   What you are describing has happened to me before, so I know how it feels.

I guess we should not go just by the bottles we are setting the drug box up with, but also from a list of ALL meds we are on.   I haven't managed to get quite that organized lately....

A list for shopping is crucial to me; if I go without one, there is no doubt that something will be forgotten.   For example, a few weeks ago, I was down to my last bar of soap....so that was priority...but I didn't write it on the list, so I went to the store and came home with no soap.

Isn't getting old fun?   It does beat the alternative though...

love you,
Alan   :-*
"Remember my sentimental friend that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others." - The Wizard of Oz

Offline gardner

  • Member
  • Posts: 24
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2007, 12:15:53 PM »
Ric.
I'm glad it was just your "happy pill" you forgot and are now back on them.  Hopefully feeling better with no long term effect. 

Offline pozattitude

  • Member
  • Posts: 909
  • Enjoy
    • to find out more about me....
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2007, 01:44:48 PM »
I forget shit all the time...i tried to blame it on my ADHD, then the pot smoking..but I quit smoking pot for about 2 years before and things didn't get any better so I ruled that one out and sparked a fat joint  ;D...

so, I just blame it on HIV now...why not?....in the words of my favorite Ric and Steve character Chuck (aka Roll AIDS)...it is my AIDS acting up something fierce!!

Rich(who would skip meds daily if it wasn't for his pill box)

[attachment deleted by admin]
POSITIVE PEDALERS... We are a group of people living with HIV/AIDS, eliminating stigma through our positive public example.

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 27,947
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 04:12:55 PM »
Hey sweetheart, I'm glad you found out what was going on and I'm really happy it's something that will sort itself out now that you're back on the antidepressants. You know I was worried! Phew!

I forget my acyclovir sometimes for days on end - and I always get a really nasty reminder notice, if you know what I mean. Ouch!  :-\

Happy Hugs,
Ann
xxx
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline anniebc

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,891
  • AM member since 2003
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2007, 04:44:49 PM »
Hi Ric

You can add me to the list..I'm always forgetting something.

Wednesday night I had make up a bed for one of the baby goats (Jay) in the hay shed because he had an upset tummy..when I went to give them their bottle on Thursday morning I went into a panic because I could'nt find him..it wasn't until after a frantic search and a few calls to the neighbors that I rememberd I had put him in the hay shed. :-[...true story.

I'm glad all is back on track..I bet Thom is relieved.. ;)

Love and hugs
Jan :-*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never knock on deaths door..ring the bell and run..he really hates that.

Offline Jeffreyj

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,403
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 08:11:38 PM »
Ric,
I can sooooo relate to this forgetting-brainfog- thing. I have been having the same problem. It is frustrating as hell. It makes me feel like an idiot. But this has been going on for so long now. I am convinced it is from the hiv meds.

All I can say is to try and not beat yourself up over it. I think it is one of those things we must live with. And all we can do is try to manage it as best we can.

Just remember this: You give the greatest "HUGS" on Earth!

xoxo
Jeff
Positive since 1985

Offline aztecan

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,358
  • 28 years positive, 56 years a pain in the butt
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2007, 08:36:09 PM »
Ric,

I use a day planner because I would forget my name if I didn't write it down. My clients are so used to seeing me with it they ask where it is if they catch me out and about when I'm off duty.

I'm glad you figured it out. I count my pills each morning and evening to make sure they are all there. If not, I have to search through the bottles to find out which one is missing.

I guess I'm in good company.

HUGS,

Mark
"May your life preach more loudly than your lips."
~ William Ellery Channing (Unitarian Minister)

Offline BirdBear718

  • Member
  • Posts: 105
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 08:47:33 PM »
I have been forgetting a lot of things too.  I am not sure when it started.  I had surgery twice last year.  I heard so many times that the anesthesia effects a person's memory -- that for some it is short term, for others it is longer.  Ummmm, it's been over a year and I am STILL blaming the surgery.

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 27,947
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2007, 07:17:28 AM »
Ric,
I can sooooo relate to this forgetting-brainfog- thing. I have been having the same problem. It is frustrating as hell. It makes me feel like an idiot. But this has been going on for so long now. I am convinced it is from the hiv meds.


And I'm convinced it's from the hiv itself, as I'm not on meds. I fear it's a case of "we just can't win" or "damned if you do, damned if you don't".

~sigh~ :-\

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline emeraldize

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,261
Re: Well, I messed up . . .
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2007, 12:53:13 PM »
And I'm convinced it's from the hiv itself, as I'm not on meds.

Call me an optimist, but here's my take on a percentage of the cause of forgetfulness for many of us.

I think HIV positive people, in general and for a variety of reasons, are under extraordinary stress. When a person is under stress, forgetfulness is not an uncommon outcome.

Add to this, aging, illness, genetics, etc. and you may have varying degrees of severity of forgetfulness (I'm not referring to dementia or Alzheimer's here).

This is why I believe SO strongly that stigma must be addressed in whatever form and forum possible. If stigma were reduced, or even, oh joy, eliminated, our adrenal systems could calm down and do the work they are capable of doing. For many, it would be in concert with meds, for others, it might be med-free.

Stigma causes stress and stress is not good for our immune system. Because stress causes forgetfulness it becomes a vicious cycle as we stress about forgetting the meds, the beds, the goats, the coats, the gloves, the loves, the keys, the seas.


Edited to add: Google the words   stress and forgetfulness  -- you will have a buffet of reading and if you're interested read the article here and stick with it until the last sentence.
http://mentalhealth.about.com/od/stress/a/stressimmune604.htm


« Last Edit: December 06, 2007, 08:11:05 PM by emeraldize »

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2014 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.