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Offline frenchpat

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K PAX
« on: July 11, 2006, 07:03:57 AM »
Hello everyone,

I am wondering if anyone here is taking K Pax supplements from Jon Kaiser. I read his book and get the newsletter and his study seems convincing. I already take multivits but would like to know if someone here had noticeable improvements after using kpax. They are now available in the UK and I could get them shipped or buy loads whenever I visit my London friends.

Pat
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Re: K PAX
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 07:48:20 AM »
ah ha, i see...we are talking about the supposed wunder-supplement, as opposed to messrs spacey and bridges and psych patients from other planets...

article here for you, from The Body, might help: http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Fatigue/Archive/Vitamins/Q173492.html

hmm...while i'm in favour of all the supplements and natural stuff, this has been marketed in a way which i don't have much time for. yes, multivitamins and minerals and pro/pre biotoics etc can all help improve/maintain health. But you can get the same thing, for a fraction of the price, in your local health food shop. Or, you can just adjust your diet, so's you get what you need without having to swallow zillions of extra pills (says she, bathroom cabinet bulging with natural potions..)

& always discuss with dr/pharmacist first...

Kate

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Re: K PAX
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 07:49:52 AM »
Pat,
We have had discussions on K Pax in the past and while the idea is good there was a concensus that it would be cheaper if you bought the vitamins from your local health store individually.


Offline Sdgirl

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Re: K PAX
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 07:54:02 PM »
I went to a seminar with the doctor from the Bay area who "discovered" these vitamins.  While his information was awesome and of course you wanted to "drink the kool-aid" the monthly cost of the vitamins are upwards of $800 a month!  Pretty shitty when someone says that something might help and then makes it totally unattainable for most of us.

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Offline Jwhite8040

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Re: K PAX Vs. Vitamins cheaper elsewhere
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2006, 12:42:14 AM »
I buy my vitamins online at an organization set up specifically for HIV + people with their budget in mind.
It is much cheaper than any place else.  Check it out> http://www.newyorkbuyersclub.org/

Offline sfca415

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Re: K PAX
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2006, 06:45:26 PM »
Years ago, when he was advocating not using AZT (the only thing in those days), working with people who had few choices to help them stay alive, Dr Jon Kaiser was not sellling this type of product.  Instead he was providing his recommendations for supplements to help the immune system.  I still have a xerox from his office.  Basically he called for decent doses of most vitamins and minerals, with specific antioxidents, such as Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl L-Carnitine, and N-Acetyl Cysteine.  I'm still taking these today, but would never buy KPAX due to the price.

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Re: K PAX
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2006, 02:26:24 PM »
I went to a seminar with the doctor from the Bay area who "discovered" these vitamins.  While his information was awesome and of course you wanted to "drink the kool-aid" the monthly cost of the vitamins are upwards of $800 a month!  Pretty shitty when someone says that something might help and then makes it totally unattainable for most of us.

Lisa

Hi Lisa.  $800 a month for K-Pax vitamins?  Don't know where you got that.  I have been taking his vitamins  for 4 years and I pay $120.00 a month.  For anyone under 120 pounds it would be about $70.00 a month.
BTW: A Quote from the K-Pax site:
"As most of you know, our primary goal at K-PAX is to achieve third party coverage for K-PAX Immune Support Formula if it is prescribed by your doctor. We are working toward this goal because we believe that everyone who needs K-PAX to support their immune system should have access to it regardless of their economic status."
For people living in New York:
"If your prescription medications are currently paid for by the AIDS Drug Assistance Program (ADAP), your K-PAX Vitamins can be paid for by this program as well (effective date 7/15/05). "

Brent

 


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