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Offline bianco

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just for my general info...
« on: November 18, 2007, 12:26:28 PM »
hi
 matty,Ann,Andy and RapidRod..

i really appreciate ur efforts..and sometimes i feel how much u get mad (as me) from ppl who ask about details of details...!
So this is my first post...

I'll tell u what is my status..then u suggest me to test OR no!!(hope not to disturb u...)

2005 i had oral sex ONLEY with CWS but i didn't get into her...

2006 about 5 times i had oral sex ONLY with different CWS and i didn't get semen into her..
one of this 5 times..i licked the female..but no blood was their..and i remember i went to w.c quickly and cleaned my mouth...

i remember 2 times of this 5 times..the woman was suck me after i finish..so my penis was sleep..

last month i had ORAL SEX with CWS and i got my semen into her...

after week i had protected sex with CWS and she was good..that she asked me to put condom to suck me!

i remember condom didn't break..

i don't complain any thing in my tongue pr anything!
only when i wake up my tongue is white..and when i eat it turns normal color..

SO my friends..!
DO u think i need to go test??

thank you..

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 12:39:59 PM »
You didn't have a risk and you don't need to test.

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 12:51:18 PM »
thank you my dear...

i forgot to say last time i mentioned with CWS with condom..
i made intercourse..but saw my semen in condom after finish,,

DO u know y i ask..
CUZ when i get this situations into my mind...
i feel how stupid i was to do this...

and sometimes i feel..as am going to b sick!
but i get back to details of each situation! and get result..everything is fine...!
BUT be back again to the same though!
i don't know what to do...

DO u know i guess if i went test negative!
I'll say,.
then HIV didn't appear into my blood!
may b next month! and so on...

i think i must go to doctor psychology! what do u think?
how can i get rid of this thought my freind...

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 01:27:19 PM »
It wouldn't hurt you. If you are asking then you should go.

Offline bianco

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2007, 02:47:22 PM »
SO MY FREINDS..
one more silly qu;?

since oral sex is safe...
y most medical sites say it has risk!
without idntifying it!

 

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2007, 02:52:23 PM »
one more qu; my freinds..

which types of materail that condoms created from than latex?
is there anyother material can prevent the semen,,but HIV can path throught it?

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2007, 03:18:39 PM »
Bianco,

Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not one single person has been infected this way and you will not be the first. Going down on a woman is also not a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

If you want to know more about condoms, click on and read through all three condom and lube links in my signature line.

You have not had a risk for hiv infection in anything you have asked us about.

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Re: need Ur opinion..should i go test?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2007, 04:42:09 PM »
THANK YOU ANN

but am curious to know some info about HIV..i can't find anywhere..
may b cuz it is more scientific..
what is the temperature HIV can live in?
how long time it can live outside human body?

am sorry if am making disturbance for u...

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2007, 06:13:30 PM »
Bianco,

Please don't send me PM's. We are aware of your thread and will answer your questions as and when we are able to. I have blocked you from sending me any further PM's.

As you have been told, you don't have HIV. Frankly the information you're seeking about the conditions in which HIV remains viable are irrelevant and will only serve to fuel your unfounded fears further. All you need to know is that HIV is fragile and has to be transmitted inside the body. It doesn't survive outside of the human body for any considerable time.

You don't have HIV.

MtD

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2007, 06:19:49 PM »
thank u .

i really respect u and all friends here..
i didn't mean to disturb u by my pm...
so i don't know y u got  sad&aggressive to block me..
i didn't mean to disturb u at all..so it was OK to tell me not to send u pm's any more and no need to block me since i didn't mean to disturb u ..
sorry for misunderstanding..

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may i hear from poz female gave oral for neg male?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2007, 10:24:40 AM »
hi..
am sorry for posting again for same idea of my previous post...

BUT I'll like to hear if it is tried practical form any friend here that
the female was POZ..and suck NEG male?
and the NEG male licked POZ female?

what is the HIV status for this male?
how sure it is NEG for whole life?...

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 10:39:40 AM »
Please follow our rule and don't start any new threads. Keep all of your entries in this same thread which I have merged with the new one you started.

In the entire history of the epidemic there's never been a confirmed case of a guy getting infected from getting a blowjob. Not one. As for giving oral to a woman who is poz, that is strictly theoretical. In the real world of HIV it doesn't happen. The female fluids which might contain HIV are in the cervical area, which is much further up inside of her than your mouth or tongue would reach.

Additionally, your saliva has naturally inhibitory elements which neutralize HIV. So one way or another tranmission is not happening that way.

You are worrying needlessly. 
Andy Velez

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2007, 05:55:49 PM »
thank u andy...
I'll not create new thread for this post...
this is little bit far from main thread...

BUT i hear ppl say coated white tongue..
would u describe how it looks?
and when it suppose to happen for POZ person?

i get white lines in my tongue edges..and it goes when i eat..
i went to doctor ..he said it is Bactria..

SO would u tell me how the one follow HIV looks like?

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2007, 06:07:27 PM »
A white tongue is very common and doesn't always indicate there's a problem. And it certainly is not an HIV-specific occurence.

You need to seriously re-focus. For some reason you have this thing in your head that you have an HIV problem. You don't. What you do have is a problem ABOUT HIV, which is an entirely different matter. There is no need for testing nor for being concerned about HIV.

Discuss it with your doctor again if you are concerned about the coating on your tongue. And if you can't let go of this unwarranted concern about HIV then I suggest you see a therapist or a like professional to talk about the emotional aspects of what is driving a groundless fear. Really.

Andy Velez

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Re: need ur openion..should i go test?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2007, 06:41:33 PM »
thank u...
so u suggest to forget HIV,,,and go on my life??
I'll not do any sex with CSW it was lesson

Offline bianco

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just for my general info...
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 04:26:42 PM »
hii my friends...
now by reading posts in this site from experts here..
i can do as u do with me and others here but in society around me..
So i got qu; from friend..i couldn't answer ..it was logical..
so would u answer me??

it is..
Silvia has HIV...
and vagina has HIV..

So unprotected vaginal SEX is danger for transmit..
BUT unprotected oral Is NOT..

So y not infection can come from savlia through penis tip ..and easly come through vaginal fluids.?

 

Offline bianco

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 05:13:34 PM »
i just read there is Silvia test...
that mean HIV is concentrated into Silvia...

right?

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 06:06:51 PM »
b,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

Hiv tests do not test for hiv itself, it tests for the antibodies the body creates in response to the presence of hiv. If your body has created these antibodies, they will be in your saliva. Antibodies are NOT capable of hiv transmission. Antibodies will not infect you.

Saliva is not infectious. Saliva also contains many different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv. Damaged hiv cannot infect.


Getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection.

Going down on a woman is not a risk for hiv infection.

You have not had a risk for hiv infection.

Ann

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

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Offline bianco

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suggestion
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 06:13:40 PM »
thank you Ann..
as i titled my massage it was for my general info..not related to my previous post..
that is y i prepared to send separated....

let me suggest ..Y u don't let every different thread sent by member separated..to b easier for any visitor to search using its titles..not to b obliged to read SO long thread and replies...and then u as administrator decide if this thread related to previous (then merge) else leave it separated...

this is opinion...

best regards...

Offline RapidRod

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 08:52:01 PM »
Read the guidelines to posting in this forum like you should have done before your first post.

Offline bianco

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2007, 07:52:42 AM »
i did CDC blood chek..
i got this results

white cells 9.28 N&red cells 5.86 N&haemoglobin 17.2 high&HCT 48.3 N
lymphocytes LOW 20.8%&monocytes N 8.0%&eosinophil 0.8% N & baseophils N 0.4%

am afraid of lymphocytes??
does it follow immunie system?

thank you

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2007, 08:25:26 AM »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Take your concerns up with your doctor. They are unrelated to HIV.

Offline bianco

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2007, 06:31:06 PM »
thank you..
i asked DR in other forum ..

he told me lymphocytes should be High at infected person..not LOW..

i liked to write this it may help anyone in my situation..

BUT i have on more qu..hope anyone can answer me here...cuz DR didn't answer yet..

""if i infected one month ago...
so is this good duration to have lymphocytes HIGH as infected person?? ""

thank you
« Last Edit: November 23, 2007, 07:13:54 PM by bianco »

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2007, 07:26:09 PM »
Which lymphocytes levels was the DR. talking about, CD4? CD8? You're not providing enough information for anyone to respond.

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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2007, 09:08:36 PM »
Bianco,

If you want to know your hiv status, the ONLY way to find out is through taking an hiv antibody test. A CBC will tell you nothing about your hiv status. I've been positive for over ten years and my CBC always comes back with normal counts across the board.

You haven't had a risk for hiv infection. You've already had a conclusive hiv result. You ARE hiv negative.

It's time for you to talk to your doctor about your concerns. There's nothing more we can do for you here.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline bianco

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2007, 04:54:59 PM »
Rapid , Ann..

he was talking about infected person who don't get medicines..so his lymphocytes should b high (CD4&CD8)

that what i got...

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2007, 05:04:30 PM »
bianco,

A person with hiv would have normal or low CD4s and normal or high CD8s. The total lymphocyte count does not reflect the person's hiv status, whether they are positive or negative.

But that has nothing to do with you. Why? BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK FOR HIV INFECTION.

Rodney has already given you the posting guideline which discusses repeated posting over NO RISK incidents - he posted them a few posts up in red. if you keep posting about these sex worker incidents, you'll be given a time out. Please consider yourself warned.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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i want to hear from ANDY plz..
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2007, 05:17:08 PM »
hi..
I need to hear from ANDY..
i know Ann and Rapid are mad of me and nervous..

hi andy..
sorry for disturbing u..
I'd like to tell u what goes in mind.. my lymphocytes are 20.8 and normal should b 25-40..

i read on web that HIV make it goes down..
So my qu;
HOW FAST HIV effect on minimizing it without any drugs if someone infected??

PLZ Andy don't shout me as others..
thank you

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Re: just for my general info...
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2007, 06:27:31 PM »
You aren't listening to what has been said to you. You've already received accurate responses from perfectly qualified people.

Instead of listening you are simply inputting yet more details which are totally irrelevant to the situation. When there has been a risky incident all kinds of semi-information such as you are mixing in like your lymphocyte numbers would be totally irrelevant. ONLY an HIV test will render a reliable answer when taken at the appropriate time -- 13 weeks after the incident.

But you DIDN'T HAVE A RISKY INCIDENT. So there is no neeed for testing. If you have health concerns you need to discuss them with your doctor. This is not an HIV incident. If you persist in coming back with just more of the same you're going to get a time out.

How many ways can you be told this is not an HIV situation before you get it? I don't know but I do know we're not willing to engage you further about this.
Andy Velez

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correction plz..
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2007, 07:42:37 AM »
Ann..

last day i read info that HIV can pass through Mucous Membrane in mouth or in tip of pennis..

is this theorotical info?or it is not true?

sorry for disturbing u..

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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2007, 08:02:21 AM »
Bianco,

Hiv can only infect a very few, very specific cell types. These cell types are not found in any great amount in the mouth. Combine that fact with the fact that saliva contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect and you have a non-starter where hiv risks are concerned. Going down on a woman is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

The cells that hiv might infect on the penis are only found down inside the urethra and the inside of the foreskin, if you have one. However, as saliva is NOT infectious, getting a blowjob is not and never will be a risk for hiv infection.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

You have been warned about repeatedly posting over your no risk incidents. I'm giving you that time out, in order to encourage you to seek professional counseling to help you learn way of managing your hiv anxiety. We cannot help you with that here. Your time out will be for 28 days. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2007, 02:44:10 PM »
Bianco,

You were told that if you attempt to create a new account, you would be permanently banned. Today you tried to create a new account anyway, so yes, you are now permanently banned.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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