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Offline HIV? poz about being neg

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syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« on: October 27, 2007, 12:34:32 AM »
Is it possible for Syphilis to be mistaken for HIV ? or vise versa?
Jan/25/07 VL > 100 000 CD4 480 21%
Apr/13/10     Started Atripla
May/11/10    VL !! 300 !!     CD4 520
Jul/15/10      VL    75          CD4 400   27%
Dec/20/10    VL UD             CD4 390 28%
Jan/10/12    VL UD              CD4 670 28%
Mar/31/14    VL UD              CD4 580 37%

Offline John2038

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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2007, 07:58:54 AM »
It's a good question.

It seems that if the symptoms might look similar, the syphilis is not responsible of the creation of HIV-antibodies (I am making an assumption here).

What is sure is that:
Syphilis and HIV coinfected individuals taking ART can be misdiagnosed as doing an antiretroviral drug reaction.

NOTE
Syphilis infection was associated with significant increases in the HIV viral load and significant decreases in the CD4 cell count.
The findings underscore the importance of preventing and promptly treating syphilis in HIV-infected individuals.
Souce: http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-05-01-04


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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 03:41:06 PM »
No it is not possible for Syphilis to be mistaken for HIV...one is a bacteria and the other is a virus...apples and oranges.
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Offline NLEWLAD

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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2008, 06:11:27 PM »
i caught syphilis with my hiv infection
Simon - Location Manchester England
Negative test 10/11/07
Tested poz 28/12/07
Confirmed WB 07/01/08
Sero-converted Late December 07

Date        CD4            %              VL

7/01/08   1273 :)      N/A       100,232
24/01/08   755 :(      42%         4,010
13/2/08     922 :)      45%       78,234
09/04/08   652 :(      38%       36,604
05/05/08   936 :)      39%       38,952
07/07/08   844 :)      34%       24,000
12/11/08   753 :(      31%       45,600
no meds yet:)

Offline pozguy75

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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 09:27:42 AM »
Though you may indeed contract both at the same time, they are very different animals and can not be mistaken for one another.
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Offline unknownsir

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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 12:33:12 PM »
i have no idea which i got first but i found out that i had HIV and Neurosyphilis at the same time.
Generally it is accepted that getting them both will beat ur cd4 down real fast and let ur viral load run rampant.

my doctors had me tested several times, several ways for both before they decided to accept the diagnosis as my cd4 was 1200 and vl undetectable.  i have remained lucky that after 2 years my cd ranges from 1200-1700 and vl remains undetectable


Offline steevm

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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008, 12:37:12 AM »
I have a question about hiv and syphilis.  I hope this is the right place to ask. 

I tested poz for HIV and Syphillis in Nov, although I'm massively confused with the doc's explanation about it.  I got the results as 1:4 ratio and he said it's been there, but possibly somewhat treated earlier by some other antibiotic I was taking by coincidence.  I had the 6 shots of penicillin (as well as flu, pneumonia and a hep b booster) to treat it and now 3 mos later, it's still 1:4.  He didn't really give me an idea of what to do at this point, tho he said we might have to do a lumbar puncture.  I'm pretty sure I don't want that...sounds ugly.

Now I'm just freaked and confused.  Any ideas?  ???
Nov 07 - T369 & V36000
Jan 08 - T279 & V38000 - Start Atripla
Mar 08 - T379 & V380 - Start Norvir,Truvada,Reyataz

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Re: syphilis be mistaken for HIV?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008, 10:58:01 AM »
I have a question about hiv and syphilis.  I hope this is the right place to ask. 

I tested poz for HIV and Syphillis in Nov, although I'm massively confused with the doc's explanation about it.  I got the results as 1:4 ratio and he said it's been there, but possibly somewhat treated earlier by some other antibiotic I was taking by coincidence.  I had the 6 shots of penicillin (as well as flu, pneumonia and a hep b booster) to treat it and now 3 mos later, it's still 1:4.  He didn't really give me an idea of what to do at this point, tho he said we might have to do a lumbar puncture.  I'm pretty sure I don't want that...sounds ugly.

Now I'm just freaked and confused.  Any ideas?  ???

I had a lumbar puncture not too long ago...it wasnt that bad...freaked me out at first...but once they started it..it wasnt nothing I couldnt handle.
poz 96 and med free til now.
Sept 2007 cd4 280 28.37% and VL 19,200
Nov 2007 cd4 230 25.87% and VL 38,000
Dec 2007 start Atripla
Jan 2008 cd4 490 32.5% and VL 119
Feb 2008 cd4 450 28.4% and VL less than 50
April 2008 cd4 510 28.6% and VL less than 48
July 2008 cd4 570 30.2% and VL less than 48
Dec 2008 cd4 570 32.0% and VL less than 48

 


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